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Men’s Rights Redditors outraged again by imaginary injustice, alleged-stripping-at-school-assembly edition

Trapped in an imaginary matriarchy!
Trapped in an imaginary matriarchy!

MRAs spend an awful lot of time getting worked up by hypothetical injustices. On the Men’s Rights subreddit, angry Men’s Rightsers regularly post links to stories of women behaving badly – or who may have been charged with or convicted of a crime – with indignant headlines suggesting that the women in question would be treated far worse if “she had been a man.”

The latest example of this outrage over imagined injustices? This post, found in r/mensrights today, with 87 net upvotes:

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If you follow the link, it goes to a brief story about the alleged incident in The Huffington Post. I say “alleged” because the woman in question has not yet been convicted of anything. As the story reports, the police arrested her because

school staff told them the assembly was halted and the cafeteria cleared after Meaders began dancing onstage and took off some of her clothes.

She’s charged with seven counts of endangering the welfare of a child and one count of public lewdness.

An Albany City Court clerk says Meaders was arraigned Friday afternoon and ordered held on $3,000 bail. She doesn’t have a lawyer yet.

There is no mention of putting her on a sex offenders registry because, and let me be blunt here, YOU HAVE TO BE CONVICTED OF A CRIME TO GET PUT ON ONE. She’s merely been CHARGED.

There is no “pussy pass” for women that enables them to bypass the sex offenders registry ONCE THEY ARE CONVICTED of public lewdness. The relevant NY State law can be found here; as you can see, the gender of the convicted offender is not an issue. (It took all of 30 seconds on Google to dig that up.) Meaders isn’t getting special treatment because she’s a woman; she’s not on the offenders registry because an arrest is not the same as a conviction.

Enjoy your imagined oppression, fellas.

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Some Gal Not Bored at All

@cloudiah

That is certainly commitment! My cat can only manage “dignity” for 5-10 seconds at a time. She just started doing this thing where she opens her mouth as wide as it can go and squeaks. That is about as far from dignified as you can get without falling off something!

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Nat: Where are you getting it? That will affect what you feel. I’ve found that the outline is the worst of the stinging, the fill is hardly noticeable. That said, I will never do the undersides of my upper arms any more than they are.

cloudiah
11 years ago

She didn’t look so dignified when she came in dripping wet, the silly dear thing. But I wrapped her up like a burrito in a big towel (also not dignified) and she was fine.

reginaldgriswold
reginaldgriswold
11 years ago

I have two tattoos: one on my xiphoid process and the other from hip to breast on my left side. The first took about 10 minutes and I don’t even remember a sensation. The second was as the Kitteh’s Unpaid Help describes. Kind of a warm pain, almost more akin to an itch. The first three hours were fine, but then the artist did an alcohol wipe before fill ins and I cried like a baby. Overall, I think the pain isn’t that bad, but I also don’t think anyone will judge you for asking for a moment to breath or get some water.

hippodameia8527
hippodameia8527
11 years ago

I’ve got a couple. For conventional tattooing, it’s not much worse than drawing blood when you poke your finger sewing. It also depends on where the tattoo, and how big it is. If you’re having it put right over bone it’ll hurt more, and if it’s really big you’ll have increasing soreness. Overall I’d say it’s about as bad as skinning your knee – it’ll bleed and hurt but you should be over it fairly quickly. I’m not great at dealing with pain, but I’ve never needed painkillers for the three I have.

Hope that helps!

thenatfantastic
thenatfantastic
11 years ago

It’s going to be at the top of my shoulder. I didn’t even think about pain until I booked it, since I was already OK, but then everyone started bothering me about it and now I’m scared cos my tattooist is really cool and I’m just a big dorkbag. On the same note – I can’t talk to hairdressers or anything – any ideas or tips?

thenatfantastic
thenatfantastic
11 years ago

I’ve given blood, poked my finger and skinned my knee, am I off free then?

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

I think if the tattooist wants to talk they will, but they might be just as happy to concentrate on the work. Mine didn’t talk to me while he was working.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

If giving blood doesn’t make you all squeamish I doubt the tattoo will! 🙂 Also the top of your arm’s a good place for a first one, it’s reasonably fleshy, not right on top of bone.

If you don’t want to talk to the tattooist, just say you’d rather not. I don’t think they’ll be that surprised. And they may want you to sit quiet and still anyways.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Nat: that are didn’t hurt all that much. Your tattooist has seen every kind of dorkbag there is, you’ll be fine. Most are chill, just let the convo happen or Zen out.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

^area

cloudiah
11 years ago

I thought I was the only person who couldn’t talk to hairdressers. Dorkbags unite! We have nothing to lose but our awkwardness around strangers.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

I find some hairdressers great to talk to (my main one) and some I just can’t think of a thing to say – especially when it’s the apprentices who are about 18. My mind goes blank and I end up hearing about how trashed they got at the weekend and how some guy was sleazing on them and wanted them to go home with him and their boyfriend won’t take no for an answer and keeps texting after they’ve broken up andAAAAAARGHHHHHHHH.

thenatfantastic
thenatfantastic
11 years ago

Blaaarg, I am so crap at talking to people because I see anything as an avenue to talk to people about politics, but my tattooist didn’t even recognise the raised fist when I went for a consultation. Anyway, I need to go to sleep now, it’s 03.30.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

Niters!

Some Gal Not Bored at All

Night! Good luck with your tattoo!

Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

G’night!

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

Good luck tattooing! I’ve had two done on my deltoids, and I didn’t find the pain unbearable at all. I was anxious as well (I have a needle-phobia, and tend to faint), but warn your artist beforehand. Trust me, it’s not unusual. Mine was a huge cantankerous bear of a man, but he was perfectly nice to me.

A warning that nobody ever gave me though: you might have some weird emotional reactions after the endorphins wear off. Both times I’ve been tattooed, I had an emotional crash half an hour or so afterward where suddenly I felt like everything was awful. It wore off once my body got over the endorphin crash. Just be nice to yourself.

Glitch2
Glitch2
11 years ago

Owned and exposed by toysoldier:
http://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2013/02/19/defending-injustice/

And I bet not one of you cowards will have the guts to step out of your little hatespace and stand up for your beliefs where they’re challenged.

Instead you’re just going to spew more shame and insult at any kind of criticism just so you can feel better about yourselves regardless of the truth and happily at the expense of victims of sexual assault if they made the stupid mistake of having male genitalia.
I’m not even going to come back to read any responses. Wanna argue? Do it at toysoldier’s blog … if you’re not too scared that you might be wrong.

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