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I am now 1/2 a Jeremiah Weed, 1 Desperados and 5 vodka and lemonades into posting. I could still consent, were it with BoyFantastic. But NNY doesn’t want to hear my law graduate arguments.
At this point the only possible explanation that I can think of for his behavior is that he’s the world’s first person to have a kink for boring people.
cloudiah — I can bus into New Haven, but I really hate the busses here — Pittsburgh it was annoying college students, here it’s husslers. There’re a couple Japanese places I can talk my mother into driving to, but she hates driving in New Haven.
And thank you for reminding me that we need a map for Boston because if she thinks New Haven is bad!
Argenti: Also, I hate legal Latin, res means thing.
yes, in legal latin too, “res ipso loquitor”, the thing speaks for itself.
I just keep thinking that, according to trolly, no one would ever be allowed to have sex with Bernard Black.
I thought zie meant mens rea.
Ooh baby, are you bored and vaguely irritated yet? Let me give you another 1000 words of random irrelevant crap to read. You like that, don’t you?
NNY: All states follow these percentages otherwise the federal government would refuse federal highway money.
Nope. The only criteron the feds have is the drinking age must be 21. But hey, what’s a little factual innaccuracy among friends.
Well, ok, we aren’t friends; then again, I expect my friends to have their facts straight too, so there ain’t no way you are getting a lower standard.
I like that according to NNY, I can never (for the foreseeable future) consent to sex because the prescription drugs I am on pretty much guarantee a DUI arrest if I drove and caused an accident. (That was the warning I got from my doctors when I started on them.) If DUI is the standard, then I’m (not)fucked.
Pecunium — like barrels out of second story windows (or unmarked trenches, email me if you want that story, it’s long, and stupid, and yet hilarious) — sometimes res is thing, as it should be, sometimes it’s a modifier on mind that makes no damned sense.
thenatfantastic — my nym is typo’ed Latin, so I can’t really fault your Latin. Is vodka and lemonade good? I’m thinking vodka next time I buy booze, but I have to hide it (per my mother, she’s okay with me drinking but if my alcoholic father gets into my booze she’ll have my head) — my mango juice and vodka doesn’t work without a fridge, and I’m pretty sure there’s single serving lemonade that’s refrigerate after opening.
Argh, grammar fail! Is lemonade vodka good? Must be if you’ve had 5?
Best. Simile. Ever. for this troll. Or really, for MRAs in general.
Argenti: I think that’s typos. The only legal latin I know that marries to mind is, mens rea.
@argenti
Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.
@Argenti
Just never mix vodka with a Capri Sun. (College drinking was…interesting for me.)
It’s weird, I’m waiting for my tattooist to say what she can fit in. If it’s not that, it’s Bella Ciao.
Oh pox.
sic transit gloria crabby
(old Perishers strip)
Argenti,
Ok, I got this:
“But first, a brief definition. (Longer one here.) Enthusiastic consent is a principle that says that “no means no” is crucial – if a sexual partner says no, you have to stop – but it’s not enough. In order to ensure consent and prevent sexual violence, everyone, regardless of gender, has to make sure that their partner is enthusiastic about what’s going on.
Enthusiastic consent is an ongoing state, not a yes/no lightswitch. It requires sexual partners to be in ongoing communication with each other. It does not mean that you have to get a signed contract to touch my right breast. It does mean that you have to pay attention to whether or not I’m into it as you move your hand toward my right breast, and that if you can’t tell, you have to ask.”
from: http://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/the-nonexistent-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-consequences-of-enthusiastic-consent/
I think “no means no” is a very good, easy to follow rule of thumb. Simple, effective, clearly defined.
It also brings up the topic of EC being an “ongoing state” not a “yes/no lightswitch”. I think my model follows EC far closer because I stated that one can not just consent to sex, become intoxicated and have that consent still apply from earlier. My position IMO follows the “ongoing state” much closer. When the point of intoxication comes into play, that “ongoing state” turns to no and can not be changed back to yes until 1) sobriety and 2) they say “yes” again.
My only issue with this definition is “It does mean that you have to pay attention to whether or not I’m into it”. This seems highly subjective and highly prone to miscommunication. Especially with people that have never had sex before. You are asking/expecting people to understand other’s idiosyncrasies to the point of reading the others mind. I can see a slew of “S/he did X…I thought that meant s/he wanted to do X”. IMO just saying “no” would be easier, since you are clearly stating your wishes not expecting the other person to interpret something they might get wrong.
And no, I don’t walk around with a breathalyzer.
WHAT ABOUT ME I HAVE A LAW DEGREE WHERE I FOCUSED ON THE RIGHTS OF VICTIMS
See? He has to be getting off on boring people, why else would he do this?
Yes, god forbid you have to pay attention to a partner to figure out if they’re into it. Heaven forfend!
Guys like you never hear “no” except when you want to, so I can see a huge flaw in that plan.
Cassandra: maybe we should giggle when he spanks us with his boringness.
Why can’t he have a normal kink, like bondage or feet or something?
Weird delayed post…
thenatfantastic — I did mean mens rea, pretty sure Pecunium was noting the contradiction between the two phrases.
Some Gal — ah fuck, benzos would get me a DUI huh? Just one more reason it’s a good thing I don’t drive…