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Feminists! Give up your misandry, accept that women are inferior, and oh, this MRA rant gets worse. Much worse.

Whatever this kid is saying is guaranteed to be smarter and less offensive than Jacob Ian Stalk's horrific rant
Whatever this kid is saying is guaranteed to be smarter and less offensive than Jacob Ian Stalk’s horrific rant

Cloudiah found this amazingly awful rant — from a prolific manosphere commenter and Spearhead supporter by the name of Jacob Ian Stalk — in the comments section to a piece on feminism in The Tab Oxford, a student paper. She posted it in the comments here on Man Boobz, where it’s already generated a good deal of discussion (see comments here, here, here, and here for starters). But I thought it deserved a post of its own.

So without further ado, I present Jacob Ian Stalk’s “12-Step Program for Recovering Feminists.”

Equality is equality. Feminism is about the unbridled pursuit of power for women. Got that?

Uh, no, actually, because it’s not true, but please continue.

The age of feminism is over, thankfully. The comments here that support feminism are from the rats that refuse to leave the sinking ship, thinking there’s sustenance still to be found there somewhere. Sorry to disappoint, but there is nothing nutritious left.

So the ship is sinking at the very moment it’s run out of food that rats can eat. That’s quite a coincidence! Or is it sinking because it ran out of food? Were the dudes on the ship using rat food to plug holes in the hull?

Men the world over are waking up to the damage wrought by rampant feminism and they’re shocked to realise it all happened while they were asleep. Well, they’re asleep no more. Bleat all you like about feminism being about this or that, but the truth of it’s evil is written all over the once noble institutions of the world and the wishful bleatings of solipsistic girl-children can’t erase it. It is done. The cailphate is establishing its power base once more and Sharia law is spreading.

Huh? Because of feminism? Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

Feminists have destroyed the family and have eschewed child-bearing in favour of credentialism and the illusion of success, killing their unborn children and robbing men of their will to be fathers and husbands. The laugh is on you, Western feminists, as Western birth rates have at last fallen below their replenishment rate and the Muslims are laughing all the way to the maternity wards.

Oh, dear, you got some racism in your misogyny. Two terrible tastes that taste worse together!

The best you can hope for, Western women, is to abandon feminism entirely. Abandon that idiotic notion of ‘equality’, as it will never happen.  All it has earned you is the disrespect of men and an increasing number of women the world over. Feminism doesn’t make you strong. It doesn’t make you powerful. It doesn’t make you free. And it sure as hell doesn’t make you equal. It just makes you despicable.

Wait, weren’t you just complaining that feminism is about female supremacy? Now you’re admitting that it’s actually about equality – and you’re preaching male supremacy in its place?

Abandon feminism. Here’s a 12-step program for recovering feminists. There are others.

Ok, here we go.

1. Don’t be narcissistic. Never think you’re more important than men or children. Marketing departments delight in exploiting the feminist fallacy that you are. They promote ‘women’s only’ this and that, and women have bought into it. This appears sexist but it is really a marketing ploy that works because most women are narcissistic. Companies know they can charge more for goods and services by using the words ‘women only’. Narcissistic women are easily exploitable women. Be neither.

Huh. Isn’t the Men’s Rights Movement all about exploiting the narcissism of men who think they’re more important than women? (And children – at least in the case of the MRAs who whine endlessly about how unfair it is they can’t financially abandon their kids.)

2. Don’t let others make choices for you. This should be self-evident but for most of your life you’ve allowed yourself to be told what to wear, what to buy, what to eat, how to dress, where to go, how to think – in clubs, gyms, magazines, websites, books, stores and by TV talk show hosts. You’ve ‘needed’ a step-by-step guide through life, which you’ve followed with your sisters like sheep. Companies have exploited this need. Behave like a sheep if you must but obey the sheepdog, not the wolf. Better yet, be a woman who can think for herself.

… so long as “thinking for yourself” means “thinking you’re inferior to men and generally thinking the way men who hate women want you to.”

3. Get rid of the self-induced schizophrenia. Don’t insist you’re strong, confident, capable and independent one minute, then weak, frightened and vulnerable the next, especially when you’ve been caught doing something wrong. Don’t chop and change whenever it suits you – learn about who you are and be true. Admit when you’ve done something wrong. Don’t suddenly remember that you suffered abuse in the past or have some kind of mental illness or other instability, then use it to get yourself off. If you never sought help for these problems before you were caught, don’t use them as an excuse afterwards. Accept responsibility for yourself.

And for everything bad that men do as well, as manospherians repeatedly insist. If men are violent, it’s because women (allegedly) like dating violent men. If men brutalize the women in their life, it’s because the women provoke them. If a man arms himself with high-powered weapons and massacres children, his mom is to the real villain. For manospherians and MRAs generally, “responsiblity” means “a woman is always to blame.”

4. Don’t let the law take responsibility for crimes women commit. Speak out against women routinely receiving shorter sentences than men for the same crimes. If the law punishes women as it does children, treat them like children and encourage others to do so too. Don’t call these women ‘victims’ and say “they’ve suffered enough” because they’re women. Believe in, and stand up for, equal justice on the basis of gender.

Women do tend to receive shorter sentences than men for the same crimes. But this isn’t the fault of feminism. Indeed, female judges are slightly more likely to give women harsher sentence than male judges, possibly reflecting paternalistic attitudes on the part of male judges.

5. Don’t believe everything women and feminised men in the media tell you. Many serve up slop by the bucket – celebrity gossip, slimming tips, sex tips, man-shaming tips, rape and abuse lies, etc. TV shows like Oprah and Dr Phil are filled with advice on how women can transform themselves into victims and blame everything on men, while constantly ridiculing them. Partake of more nutritious fare than this. Get your infotainment from equitable programs. Be aware of the cultural status quo from both perspectives.

I have no idea what Jacob here would consider an “equitable” program, but, really, no one of any gender should be getting life advice from Dr. Phil.

6. Don’t fake solidarity with other women, especially in public. Don’t pretend that all women are your best friends when everyone knows nothing could be further from the truth. Openly acknowledge the reality that women despise each other unless there’s personal advantage in not doing so. Most good men can see through these attempts at deception, so lies won’t travel far. Don’t be a liar, especially not an obvious one.

I have no idea what the fuck he’s going on about here. “Don’t fake solidarity with other women, especially in public??” Do women who hate each other march around Jacob’s neighborhood arm-in-arm, pretending to be BFFs and singing the Lady Internationale? (“Arise, you prisoners of menstruation …  .“)

7. Don’t seek equality with men. Masculinity and femininity are inherently different. They are neither equals nor opposites, but different parts of the sexual continuum that can’t be defined from each other. Actively separate masculinity from femininity, and separate both from the sexual politics that keep them in healthy tension. Don’t claim women can do anything men can do until you start producing your own sperm.

Um, what? Is Kate Bush not a brilliant musician because she doesn’t have balls? Is Joan Didion not a brilliant writer because she can’t jizz into a sock?

Not every sperm producer is sacred.

8. Don’t demonize male sexuality or the male sex. Both sexes can be evil, both can be virtuous. Empathy, wisdom, grace, mercy, compassion and love are all as masculine as they are feminine. Don’t invaginate our boys by shaming or medicating the masculinity out of them before it matures and don’t impregnate them with the corrosive lie that being a woman is like being a man only better. Male sexuality is a pearl to be cultured. Suffuse your sons egos with promise if you want your daughters to have good men to love.

Uh, “invaginate?” Invaginate means to “be turned inside out or folded back on itself to form a cavity or pouch.” I’m pretty sure that teaching boys not to rape their dates does not in any way, literally or figuratively, turn them into a pouch.

9. Respect the sanctuaries of men. Men are judged much more harshly than women so they need their safe retreat. They don’t have the same opportunities for emotional support as women so they need a place where they can express themselves free of judgment and ridicule. This place must be respected. Take care if you venture there as your feminine narcissism is the enemy. Don’t draw attention to yourself and don’t expect protection if you do. If you must speak don’t attempt to control the dialogue or steer it towards you. Don’t censor language to suit your sensitivities. Male sanctuary is sacred – treat it as you would a cathedral.

Dudes, if you want to start your own little clubhouses where you can call women “cunts” in peace and quiet, go ahead and do it. Just don’t pretend they’re about anything more than misogyny. And if you put these allegedly sacred sanctuaries on the internet, don’t be surprised if some people take offence. Oh, and don’t claim that, say, video games, or STEM fields, or atheism, or whatever male-heavy thing you’re into, is a “male sanctuary” that need to be protected from evil girl germs.

Some male spaces can be totally awesome:

Others, not so awesome.

10. Don’t use shaming tactics. Don’t accuse men of having anger management issues when they’re angry at injustice. Don’t accuse them of being a threat when they call you out for being a bigot or a tyrant. Don’t accuse them of having a fear of commitment when they’re merely making a choice between bravery and stupidity. Don’t assess the merit of their arguments on the basis of their attractiveness to you. Don’t attribute their views about women to past disappointments when it is merely an objective assessment of your sex. Shaming tactics are remnants of childhood so leave them in the nursery if you want to be taken seriously.

I think this one just broke the irony meter. It’s not like manosphere dudes ever use shaming language aimed at anyone.

A word of warning here. The next paragraph is the worst one in the whole manifesto, and, honestly, one of the worst things I’ve run across in my more than two years of doing this blog. TRIGGER WARNING for rape apologia.

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11. Be honest about sexual harassment. If you assert that you have the right to dress as you please and that men should be able to control their sexuality, honour their right to be shielded from yours. If you don’t want men to control themselves but instead want to control their loss of control for your own enjoyment, be prepared for the consequences when things go awry. If ‘harassment’ – the stares, sexual innuendos, sly touches, and even rape – magically cease to be harassment and become the foundations of a passionate new romance occasionally, admit that you don’t really want men to control themselves. Don’t expect men to know when it’s right to ‘harass’ you and when it’s not. Don’t treat Man one minute as an exciting and courageous hero and the next a monster intent on tyranny and abuse if you’re inconsistent in your sexual intentions and desires.

Woah. Let’s take another look at that especially terrible comment in the middle of that mess:

If ‘harassment’ – the stares, sexual innuendos, sly touches, and even rape – magically cease to be harassment and become the foundations of a passionate new romance occasionally, admit that you don’t really want men to control themselves.

I’ve got no jokes for this one. You honestly think that RAPE can be “the foundation of a passionate new romance?” What the fuck is wrong with you?

12. Speak out against misandry. The main reason for its proliferation is that women have remained silent. Silence in the face of injustice is cowardly. It has allowed loud, obnoxious women to preach hatred with impunity, which has reflected badly on all women. When you speak out against misandry you do all women a favour. Don’t be a misandrist, don’t be a coward and don’t be silent.

At this point, I really don’t think I need to bother to point out the hypocrisy here.

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eli
eli
12 years ago

I’m editing one of those manga right now!

Should I fan myself or giggle?

kysokisaen
12 years ago

hot sour cream

See a doctor about that. And get a reference for a therapist while you’re there.

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12 years ago

Donkey Brayer? But donkeys are cute!

http://youtu.be/vVyXf0Y_lu4

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12 years ago

I hope Pierre got out of general practice. He’d be spending all his time referring MRAs to the local psychologists.

Yoyo
Yoyo
12 years ago

Eli, thank you, and that’s real!! It’s fairly sad I’m thinking that males like the dragon slayer and their buddies live such miserable lives. Can you imagine, the women at the local milk bar offers them a free bun. “No you filthy had you are just using your evil clam to take my manly juices”. Milk bar lady backs off and calls the cops. What a lonely sad life.

Yoyo
Yoyo
12 years ago

What I really wonder dragon slayer is whether your one relationship may have been an outlier. Maybe, there are other humans, male ,female or undecided who may like you if you stopped being such an asshat.

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12 years ago

That’s a big IF, I reckon.

Yoyo
Yoyo
12 years ago

Oh kitteh, that IF is so large the hadron collider couldn’t give a theoretical boundary.

Dragon Slayer
Dragon Slayer
12 years ago

Heterosexual relationships don’t have to be negative, so long as you understand what you’re getting into. By that I mean you’re engaging in a business transaction, exchanging some tangible good or service for sexual favors. I’ve had very satisfying transactions of this kind in the past, and I don’t think poorly of the women involved in the least. However, if you’re looking for true love, Shakespearean passion, and all that, you’re going to have to seek a connection with another man.

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

@Dragon Slayer

What if you’re a woman?

Peter
12 years ago

“Don’t suddenly remember that you suffered abuse in the past or have some kind of mental illness or other instability, then use it to get yourself off.”
This does seem unhealthy. Can’t you just watch True Blood like the rest of us?

“Don’t claim women can do anything men can do until you start producing your own sperm.” This just makes me want to read Woman Hating again. MRAs are pretty much the worst people on the planet, but–and I say this with a great deal of love and respect–I think Dworkin was crazy enough to match the lot of them.

“Male sexuality is a pearl to be cultured. Suffuse your sons egos with promise if you want your daughters to have good men to love.”
First, “pearl” might not be the best metaphor for male sexuality. I’m almost certain that symbol is already in use. My advice would be to go steampunk. “Male sexuality is a zeppelin to be adorned with extraneous gears and eye-pieces.” Next, I reeeally hope you’re thinking agape. Because when I think of my daughters “finding good men to love,” my sons are not whom I have in mind. (Frankly, kids, none of you exist. You’re zero years of age, stop having sex.)

Number 9 is the one that made me want to comment. This seems like a fairly sensible idea. Everyone should have some sort of safe space, and most first-worlders *do* have said safe space, among their immediate friends. I’ve never quite understood seeking out complete strangers with similar genitals as a place to be “free of judgment and ridicule,” but I can’t think of anything inherently wrong with the idea. The trouble I’ve found is that “male sanctuaries” are not safe places for men who do not adequately model the abstract concept of masculinity you seem to have created ex nihilio (since masculinity and femininity can’t be derived from each other). When you wall of a space for men only, to cultivate the special virtues of manliness, what do you usually end up with? The army? The clerisy? Prisons? What are the common threads here? Authoritarian hierarchies, sadism directed toward inferiors, servile boot-licking to earn favor of superiors, a fanatical hatred of outsiders who threaten the power structure. Oh, and rape. Lots and lots and lots and lots of rape.

So, yeah, treat them like a cathedral. Which is to say, assault it with Chimera until they have to plug the walls with their dead, and then send in Steelheads to shoot through the cover.

(Oh, and since this will be in moderation for a bit, BECAUSE YOU CAN’T HANDLE MY TRUTH-BOMBS, hi, mods! What’re the html functionalities in these here comments?)

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12 years ago

Draggin’ Arse, you’ve just demonstrated that you know nothing about love. Nothing at all. Perhaps if you feel love is something you can only know with a man, that’s what you should be exploring. I repeat: it isn’t women who’re lacking the ability to know heterosexual love, it’s you, whatever the reason may be.

Or are you trying to claim that all the men and women on this site who are in loving heterosexual relationships are lying? Or that all the people you (presumably) see in everyday life are just putting on a show?

What a sad delusion you’re inhabiting.

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12 years ago

OH gods that dirtbag Danny Nalliah is spewing his filth on the 7.30 report. Just what we need, that ranting little bigot.

eli
eli
12 years ago

@lowquacks,

Didn’t he say if he acts as your bodyguard, you have to give him anal and mowing the lawn or taking out the trash gives him the vagi…, sorry, clam or meat something.

I’m pretty sure in return, the woman gets to cook and clean the toilet and laundry.

Sounds like a sound business transaction to me!

Yoyo
Yoyo
12 years ago

The kitteh , he does want precious non sand papery love but he’s not cute enough for the gay clubs and far too angry for the women.

eli
eli
12 years ago

Danny Nalliah

ew. googled.

Hopefully he’s not on for long!

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12 years ago

@eli – mercifully he’s gone now. This is a bloke who rants about how Moslems here want to introduce Sharia law and at the same time claims the Black Saturday fires (in which over 170 people died) were caused by God being pissed off with abortion being decriminalised in our state. He also claims to have raised three people from the dead (wow, JC better look to his laurels). Yeah, “Pastor” Danny, Oz will be so safe for democracy if your brand of Christianity takes over.

He’s a scuzzbucket. And he’s got that laughing-stock Lord Monckton spluttering about what a lovely fellow he is and how nasty people are for criticising him.

Puke.

@Yoyo – yeah, he’s sort of cutting himself out of all the *cough* sexual marketplaces *cough*, isn’t he? It’s probably all that draggin’ his arse that’s done it. Sore glands and all, no wonder he’s harping on about sandpapery bits.

CassandraSays
12 years ago

Oh, hey, Arks is back. On behalf of metalheads everywhere I demand that he pick a new name that doesn’t contain the word “Slayer”, as he is bringing shame upon our people.

CassandraSays
12 years ago

(Also, only other metalheads will get this, but I am deeply amused that the Slayer link contains the character string NECRo at the end.)

titianblue
12 years ago

6. …Openly acknowledge the reality that women despise each other …

9. …Men … don’t have the same opportunities for emotional support as women …

But …but if women all despise each other, from whom are we getting our emotional support? This wonderful emotional support that men don’t get?

Oooh, would that be from the kittehs? Maybe men don’t need sanctuaries, maybe they need the kittehs? And kitteh cafes for everyone!

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12 years ago

But can you see kittehs wasting their time with this lot? I mean, these guys can’t cope with the idea of partnership with an independent human being. How on earth would they cope with the real and proper servitude of looking after kittehs?

CassandraSays
12 years ago

These guys would go to the cat cafe and end up screaming at the (bored, indifferent) cats about their princess-like sense of entitlement and their plushy toy mice.

titianblue
12 years ago

If I wasn’t at work, I’d be composing an MRA’s 12 point plan for entitled kittehd, right now …

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12 years ago

Well, that was a borked html, but at least the link works! 😛

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