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Feminists! Give up your misandry, accept that women are inferior, and oh, this MRA rant gets worse. Much worse.

Whatever this kid is saying is guaranteed to be smarter and less offensive than Jacob Ian Stalk's horrific rant
Whatever this kid is saying is guaranteed to be smarter and less offensive than Jacob Ian Stalk’s horrific rant

Cloudiah found this amazingly awful rant — from a prolific manosphere commenter and Spearhead supporter by the name of Jacob Ian Stalk — in the comments section to a piece on feminism in The Tab Oxford, a student paper. She posted it in the comments here on Man Boobz, where it’s already generated a good deal of discussion (see comments here, here, here, and here for starters). But I thought it deserved a post of its own.

So without further ado, I present Jacob Ian Stalk’s “12-Step Program for Recovering Feminists.”

Equality is equality. Feminism is about the unbridled pursuit of power for women. Got that?

Uh, no, actually, because it’s not true, but please continue.

The age of feminism is over, thankfully. The comments here that support feminism are from the rats that refuse to leave the sinking ship, thinking there’s sustenance still to be found there somewhere. Sorry to disappoint, but there is nothing nutritious left.

So the ship is sinking at the very moment it’s run out of food that rats can eat. That’s quite a coincidence! Or is it sinking because it ran out of food? Were the dudes on the ship using rat food to plug holes in the hull?

Men the world over are waking up to the damage wrought by rampant feminism and they’re shocked to realise it all happened while they were asleep. Well, they’re asleep no more. Bleat all you like about feminism being about this or that, but the truth of it’s evil is written all over the once noble institutions of the world and the wishful bleatings of solipsistic girl-children can’t erase it. It is done. The cailphate is establishing its power base once more and Sharia law is spreading.

Huh? Because of feminism? Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

Feminists have destroyed the family and have eschewed child-bearing in favour of credentialism and the illusion of success, killing their unborn children and robbing men of their will to be fathers and husbands. The laugh is on you, Western feminists, as Western birth rates have at last fallen below their replenishment rate and the Muslims are laughing all the way to the maternity wards.

Oh, dear, you got some racism in your misogyny. Two terrible tastes that taste worse together!

The best you can hope for, Western women, is to abandon feminism entirely. Abandon that idiotic notion of ‘equality’, as it will never happen.  All it has earned you is the disrespect of men and an increasing number of women the world over. Feminism doesn’t make you strong. It doesn’t make you powerful. It doesn’t make you free. And it sure as hell doesn’t make you equal. It just makes you despicable.

Wait, weren’t you just complaining that feminism is about female supremacy? Now you’re admitting that it’s actually about equality – and you’re preaching male supremacy in its place?

Abandon feminism. Here’s a 12-step program for recovering feminists. There are others.

Ok, here we go.

1. Don’t be narcissistic. Never think you’re more important than men or children. Marketing departments delight in exploiting the feminist fallacy that you are. They promote ‘women’s only’ this and that, and women have bought into it. This appears sexist but it is really a marketing ploy that works because most women are narcissistic. Companies know they can charge more for goods and services by using the words ‘women only’. Narcissistic women are easily exploitable women. Be neither.

Huh. Isn’t the Men’s Rights Movement all about exploiting the narcissism of men who think they’re more important than women? (And children – at least in the case of the MRAs who whine endlessly about how unfair it is they can’t financially abandon their kids.)

2. Don’t let others make choices for you. This should be self-evident but for most of your life you’ve allowed yourself to be told what to wear, what to buy, what to eat, how to dress, where to go, how to think – in clubs, gyms, magazines, websites, books, stores and by TV talk show hosts. You’ve ‘needed’ a step-by-step guide through life, which you’ve followed with your sisters like sheep. Companies have exploited this need. Behave like a sheep if you must but obey the sheepdog, not the wolf. Better yet, be a woman who can think for herself.

… so long as “thinking for yourself” means “thinking you’re inferior to men and generally thinking the way men who hate women want you to.”

3. Get rid of the self-induced schizophrenia. Don’t insist you’re strong, confident, capable and independent one minute, then weak, frightened and vulnerable the next, especially when you’ve been caught doing something wrong. Don’t chop and change whenever it suits you – learn about who you are and be true. Admit when you’ve done something wrong. Don’t suddenly remember that you suffered abuse in the past or have some kind of mental illness or other instability, then use it to get yourself off. If you never sought help for these problems before you were caught, don’t use them as an excuse afterwards. Accept responsibility for yourself.

And for everything bad that men do as well, as manospherians repeatedly insist. If men are violent, it’s because women (allegedly) like dating violent men. If men brutalize the women in their life, it’s because the women provoke them. If a man arms himself with high-powered weapons and massacres children, his mom is to the real villain. For manospherians and MRAs generally, “responsiblity” means “a woman is always to blame.”

4. Don’t let the law take responsibility for crimes women commit. Speak out against women routinely receiving shorter sentences than men for the same crimes. If the law punishes women as it does children, treat them like children and encourage others to do so too. Don’t call these women ‘victims’ and say “they’ve suffered enough” because they’re women. Believe in, and stand up for, equal justice on the basis of gender.

Women do tend to receive shorter sentences than men for the same crimes. But this isn’t the fault of feminism. Indeed, female judges are slightly more likely to give women harsher sentence than male judges, possibly reflecting paternalistic attitudes on the part of male judges.

5. Don’t believe everything women and feminised men in the media tell you. Many serve up slop by the bucket – celebrity gossip, slimming tips, sex tips, man-shaming tips, rape and abuse lies, etc. TV shows like Oprah and Dr Phil are filled with advice on how women can transform themselves into victims and blame everything on men, while constantly ridiculing them. Partake of more nutritious fare than this. Get your infotainment from equitable programs. Be aware of the cultural status quo from both perspectives.

I have no idea what Jacob here would consider an “equitable” program, but, really, no one of any gender should be getting life advice from Dr. Phil.

6. Don’t fake solidarity with other women, especially in public. Don’t pretend that all women are your best friends when everyone knows nothing could be further from the truth. Openly acknowledge the reality that women despise each other unless there’s personal advantage in not doing so. Most good men can see through these attempts at deception, so lies won’t travel far. Don’t be a liar, especially not an obvious one.

I have no idea what the fuck he’s going on about here. “Don’t fake solidarity with other women, especially in public??” Do women who hate each other march around Jacob’s neighborhood arm-in-arm, pretending to be BFFs and singing the Lady Internationale? (“Arise, you prisoners of menstruation …  .“)

7. Don’t seek equality with men. Masculinity and femininity are inherently different. They are neither equals nor opposites, but different parts of the sexual continuum that can’t be defined from each other. Actively separate masculinity from femininity, and separate both from the sexual politics that keep them in healthy tension. Don’t claim women can do anything men can do until you start producing your own sperm.

Um, what? Is Kate Bush not a brilliant musician because she doesn’t have balls? Is Joan Didion not a brilliant writer because she can’t jizz into a sock?

Not every sperm producer is sacred.

8. Don’t demonize male sexuality or the male sex. Both sexes can be evil, both can be virtuous. Empathy, wisdom, grace, mercy, compassion and love are all as masculine as they are feminine. Don’t invaginate our boys by shaming or medicating the masculinity out of them before it matures and don’t impregnate them with the corrosive lie that being a woman is like being a man only better. Male sexuality is a pearl to be cultured. Suffuse your sons egos with promise if you want your daughters to have good men to love.

Uh, “invaginate?” Invaginate means to “be turned inside out or folded back on itself to form a cavity or pouch.” I’m pretty sure that teaching boys not to rape their dates does not in any way, literally or figuratively, turn them into a pouch.

9. Respect the sanctuaries of men. Men are judged much more harshly than women so they need their safe retreat. They don’t have the same opportunities for emotional support as women so they need a place where they can express themselves free of judgment and ridicule. This place must be respected. Take care if you venture there as your feminine narcissism is the enemy. Don’t draw attention to yourself and don’t expect protection if you do. If you must speak don’t attempt to control the dialogue or steer it towards you. Don’t censor language to suit your sensitivities. Male sanctuary is sacred – treat it as you would a cathedral.

Dudes, if you want to start your own little clubhouses where you can call women “cunts” in peace and quiet, go ahead and do it. Just don’t pretend they’re about anything more than misogyny. And if you put these allegedly sacred sanctuaries on the internet, don’t be surprised if some people take offence. Oh, and don’t claim that, say, video games, or STEM fields, or atheism, or whatever male-heavy thing you’re into, is a “male sanctuary” that need to be protected from evil girl germs.

Some male spaces can be totally awesome:

Others, not so awesome.

10. Don’t use shaming tactics. Don’t accuse men of having anger management issues when they’re angry at injustice. Don’t accuse them of being a threat when they call you out for being a bigot or a tyrant. Don’t accuse them of having a fear of commitment when they’re merely making a choice between bravery and stupidity. Don’t assess the merit of their arguments on the basis of their attractiveness to you. Don’t attribute their views about women to past disappointments when it is merely an objective assessment of your sex. Shaming tactics are remnants of childhood so leave them in the nursery if you want to be taken seriously.

I think this one just broke the irony meter. It’s not like manosphere dudes ever use shaming language aimed at anyone.

A word of warning here. The next paragraph is the worst one in the whole manifesto, and, honestly, one of the worst things I’ve run across in my more than two years of doing this blog. TRIGGER WARNING for rape apologia.

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11. Be honest about sexual harassment. If you assert that you have the right to dress as you please and that men should be able to control their sexuality, honour their right to be shielded from yours. If you don’t want men to control themselves but instead want to control their loss of control for your own enjoyment, be prepared for the consequences when things go awry. If ‘harassment’ – the stares, sexual innuendos, sly touches, and even rape – magically cease to be harassment and become the foundations of a passionate new romance occasionally, admit that you don’t really want men to control themselves. Don’t expect men to know when it’s right to ‘harass’ you and when it’s not. Don’t treat Man one minute as an exciting and courageous hero and the next a monster intent on tyranny and abuse if you’re inconsistent in your sexual intentions and desires.

Woah. Let’s take another look at that especially terrible comment in the middle of that mess:

If ‘harassment’ – the stares, sexual innuendos, sly touches, and even rape – magically cease to be harassment and become the foundations of a passionate new romance occasionally, admit that you don’t really want men to control themselves.

I’ve got no jokes for this one. You honestly think that RAPE can be “the foundation of a passionate new romance?” What the fuck is wrong with you?

12. Speak out against misandry. The main reason for its proliferation is that women have remained silent. Silence in the face of injustice is cowardly. It has allowed loud, obnoxious women to preach hatred with impunity, which has reflected badly on all women. When you speak out against misandry you do all women a favour. Don’t be a misandrist, don’t be a coward and don’t be silent.

At this point, I really don’t think I need to bother to point out the hypocrisy here.

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Shiraz
Shiraz
11 years ago

…and flounce.

Ciao, sexist/bigot!

katz
11 years ago

I fuckin’ love tree kangaroos.

1/10 on the flounce. Literally nothing good about it.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

First, International Zombie Day, or rather Zombie Walk Day, is November 2nd — the Day of the Dead.

Second, argh your statistics!!!

So, those are all studies from small scale police departments. Departments which are required to report to the feds the number of rape // sexual assault reports and what percent were deemed unfounded (not false, unfounded — frequently no one was accused at all in other words) — per FBI data it ranges from 2-8% as a national average.

As in, one precinct reporting 50% gets averaged with all the others reporting nearly no unfounded reports and it consistently averages below 10%.

Third, I had to have “study’s their” read aloud to me to figure out what you meant. I don,t normally mock grammar (statstics are my forte) but when it isn’t comprehensible…yeah, stop and learn to proofread.

Fourth, “misogyny, I mock it”, mockery is the name of the game here.

Fifth! The manboobz challenge! Find us a moderate MRA if you want to whine about us tarring them all. Only condition is your result has to be a well known respected MRA.

Sixth, you do not want me to give a detailed analysis of your studies, it will be long, and detailed, and far less polite.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Damn it Argenti, hit refresh!

I missed the flounce, preliminary 4/10 until I catch up.

Ally S
11 years ago

Im done no point in arguing with children good bye

I’d rather be called a child than a rape apologist or misogynist.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Revised to 2/10 on that weak sauce flounce, adding a point to Katz for using child as an insult while presenting “arguments” using childish “logic” and grammar.

katz
11 years ago

A valid point.

Ally S
11 years ago

Totally OT, but I just peeked at the about page on your blog (the one linked to in your nym), and found out that you’re not male. Somehow, for the longest time, I thought either you or someone else said that you’re male, so I’m sorry if I’ve misgendered you anywhere.

I feel silly now. >_>

Ally S
11 years ago

^^ That was directed at katz.

katz
11 years ago

Ha, common mistake. “Identifies as a particular gender, but really doesn’t give a fuck” is where the gender lies. I used to get mistaken for a little boy all the time when I was a teenager.

chibigodzilla
11 years ago

Otter pup is not impressed by the flounce, nor is albino skunk kit.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Ottery adorable!

cloudiah
11 years ago

Ha ha, I managed to HTML correctly but forgot something as elemental as SPACING. There are 4 animals there.

katz
11 years ago

Disappointed that an albino skunk kit isn’t what you use to make your very own albino skunk.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Aw, did I miss a juicy new troll? I only got this far into today’s zombie incursion before the giggles got too much and I had to stop for a bit to catch my breath.

But also partially due to how modern culture has made it so women and particularly militant feminists have a very narcissistic view point. Secondly claiming the MRA movement to be based on narcissism is not only extremely wrong and very hateful.

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

I’m not sorry to have missed that churl. Good on you guys for taking that garbage out.

augochlorella
11 years ago

I’m thinking about keeping a list of words that our MRA trolls randomly capitalize. I think “Criticisms” might be a new one.

kittehserf
11 years ago

You answered my question before I even asked it, Kittehs. HOW DO U DO THAT?

I HAZ CAT POWER

neuroticbeagle
neuroticbeagle
11 years ago

“black people are more likely to steal”

No. Black people are more likely to be called thieves for stealing. White people are more likely to be called stockbrokers or bankers or government officials.

grumpycatisagirl
11 years ago

I haven’t yet ceased to be astounded that these trolls think we’re the rude ones for taking offense to their defense of horrible beliefs about women. They are just engaging in civil discourse, of course – if we were open-minded folks we would respect their dissenting opinions. That happen to totally degrade and insult women, which many of us happen to personally be.

But it’s nothing personal.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Katz’s…fish? Small pink sea creature that seems to have hands? Was adorable.

katz
11 years ago

An axolotl is an amphibian. It is a small pink freshwater creature that has hands.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

I assumed it was a pun you’d created based on Dune, but apparently the pun originated with Herbert?

kittehserf
11 years ago

Since we’re putting pictures of lovely critters with colour here, this isn’t *cough* totally OT *cough*.

Major knitting project begins! I’m doing a jacket based on the pattern of my brown tunic, but with wide sleeves – I call it the Pseudo Kimono. I found some goorrrrgeous yarn last night, Noro Silk Garden 309, which knits up like this. The pictures don’t show the blue/grey shades well, or how much crimson there is, and it’ll spread differently across the width of the jacket, but I’m really looking forward to doing it. I’ll use the same brown as the tunic (leftovers, yay) for the hem, cuffs and fronts, and the back yoke, to save the Extreme Scratchiness of mohair hitting my neck.

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