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Fidelbogen’s Sonnets for the Portuguese

Brazilians celebrate the arrival of Fidelbogen em Português
Brazilians celebrate the arrival of Fidelbogen em Português

Brazilians! Portuguese! I have fantastic news! Fidelbogen is now available in Portuguese!

Yes, our old frenemy Fidelbogen, the self-described Counter-Feminist Agent of Change (CFAC), and the would-be philosopher king of the manosphere, has managed to find someone who is, for some perverse reason, willing to translate snippets from Mr. F’s blogs into Portuguese.

This is a bit ironic, in that Fidelbogen’s writing, in its original English, reads a lot like a bad translation from the German. He’s a writer of almost pathological verbosity; rarely has any writer said so little with so many words. Not that, at the root, he has much to say; underneath all the verbiage, his ideas are trite and simplistic. And yet he seems convinced that he’s a genius. He’s one of those terrible writers who thinks he’s great. The manosphere is full of them.

And so I thought I’d use the opportunity to present some examples of Fidelbogen’s magisterial prose.

These examples are all from Mr. F’s new blog, CounterSnippets, which he evidently sees as a sort of “Dummies” version of his regular blog, The Counter-Feminist, a place where he can put forth pithy counter-feminist slogans for the masses. As he describes it:

This blog is a meme-dispersion apparatus. It is called “counter-snippets” because it features snippets of counter-feminist philosophy — sometimes one or two sentences, but typically a short paragraph. Each snippet is designed to be memorable and to stick in the reader’s mind. Having done so, it may take root and grow like a seed

As you’ll see from the examples below, Mr. F has not quite mastered the fine art of pithiness just yet.

Each of these quotes is from a separate post.

The complete phenomenology of female supremacism outdistances what any given feminist would openly acknowledge to be feminism, and the word feminism itself operates as a misdirection of attention. (Source)

In the end, the non-feminist revolution is not an identifiable human target group but a cloud of forces manifesting through human actions which can sometimes be politically linked to each other, but other times not. (Source)

In the end, the feminist left gets the bulk of its blood supply from the feminist right.  And that blood supply is nothing less than old-school gynocentrism itself. (Source)

Feminism has driven you fifty miles out into the country and left you there to fend for yourselves. Yes, it is unwise to take rides from strangers. Now you’ve got some walking to do, but hopefully the exercise will prove beneficial. I am the messenger. (Source)

We would understand feminism as a gynonormative project, while acknowledging that it could not have come into operation without a preexisting base of gynocentricity in the traditional culture.

Gynonormativization is integral to the establishment of female supremacy. (Source)

Counter-feminist analysis concludes that feminism and female supremacism are interchangeable terms, and we assert that no other analysis will generate effective political traction.

You may agree, or not, that feminism equals female supremacism — yet female supremacism as a datum is not to be doubted. (Source)

We of the non-feminist sector claim the status of an autonomous power with respect to the feminist power on earth, and we demand the full measure of diplomatic courtesy due to such a status. (Source)

Feminism as a whole needs both the academic and the pop cohorts. The academic cohort is needful so that feminism will have an intellectual vanguard — so that the snake will have a head, in other words. The pop cohort is needful so that the vanguard ideology will be demographically incarnated in numbers — so that the snake will have a body, in other words. (Source)

Remember that ALL feminism is packed into a system of interwoven karma. ALL feminism contributes to an evolutionary trajectory which points toward a radical feminist future. (Source)

Your message will take root and grow only if you make the herd disintegrate. Do that, and their power to dismiss your message will disintegrate in tandem. And when people get to this point, they will instinctively cast about in search of a new herd they can join. You know how joiners are. So it is a good idea to prepare something they can cling to, that they will be more readily persuaded to make the jump. (Source)

If we translate all of his posts from Fidelbogenese to plain old English, the message of his blog seems to be pretty simple:

1) We non-feminists should be the ones to define what feminism is.

2) Not all feminists are radical feminists but somehow they really all are, because of … karma?

3) Once we defeat feminism, it should be easy enought to herd the former feminists into our flock if we set forth some nifty little memes for them to “cling to.”

It’s hard to imagine a philosophy that’s much more condescending and cynical than this. No wonder Fidelbogen tries to disguise his philosophy in giant gasous clouds of verbiage.

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The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

With any luck, this “translator” will be someone who speaks neither English nor Portuguese, but translated via a few bilingual dictionaries.

gelar
gelar
7 years ago

All I got from that was “snippets”.

Cthulhu's intern
7 years ago

Wait, Fidelbogen’s German? I thought he was a native English speaker. Wow, says a lot about MRA’s writing if a guy whose first language isn’t English and clearly isn’t that good about speaking English sounds just like the native English speakers.

Also, Shakespeare said “Brevity is the soul of wit.” He did not then add, “Unless you are writing pseudo-philosophy.” Do not claim to know more about writing than Shakespeare, you arrogant asshole.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
7 years ago

If his stuff was just a little bit funnier I’d suspect that he was a Poe mocking the most jargon-filled kind of academic feminist writing. The first few quotes read like a bizarro world version of something from the Maoist feminist collective that puts out hilarious movie reviews.

kamilla1960
kamilla1960
7 years ago

Postmodernism! So passe!

Rabukurafuto
Rabukurafuto
7 years ago

“Gynonormative”? Seriously?

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

“Gynonormative”? Seriously?

I almost read that as gyronormative and had visions of helicopters.

hellkell
hellkell
7 years ago

Eschew obfuscation, Fidelbogen.

I can’t read more than a few words of his stuff, my eyes glaze over and my brain steps out for a pastrami on rye.

Cthulhu's intern
7 years ago

Seriously, who is his blog even for? It’s clearly not for MRAs who are just ordinary folks, is it for the extremely small demographic of academic MRAs?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
7 years ago

In a way I suppose it’s a compliment that they keep trying to appropriate academic feminist terms and twist them to their own ends. I wonder if they realize that the fact that they do that actually validates the very feminist academic works that they’re trying to discredit.

TL:DR – You can’t make fun of other people for using jargon and imply that their use of jargon means they’re zealots if you’re busy making up jargon of your very own.

katz
7 years ago

Ah, Fidelbogen! How I have missed your loquaciousness!

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
7 years ago

“You know how joiners are.”

He’s not a native English speaker? So maybe that concept known as “irony” isn’t in his vocabulary?

I know he’s thinking, and possibly even saying, that feminists just join feminism to join something (he probably said that in that rant, but gods if I can follow his “logic”) but anyone who thinks all feminism is radical feminism really doesn’t get it.

…it’s very difficult to be brief when attempting to decipher stupidity.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
7 years ago

@ Argenti

That phrase is even funnier if you think of the British use of the word “joiner”. Basically he just inadvertently implied that feminists are skilled tradespeople who make useful things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joiner

kamilla1960
kamilla1960
7 years ago
cloudiah
7 years ago

Feminism has driven you fifty miles out into the country and left you there to fend for yourselves.

MRAs are puppies, and feminists are irresponsible pet custodians? HAS HE SEEN HOW MUCH FEMINISTS LOVE OUR PETS?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
7 years ago

Cassandra — I did not know that! Definitely funnier that way!

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
7 years ago

kamilla1960 — was that the link you meant to link to? If so, can someone else tackle that please? I’m way too crunchy already to try tackling theories if how psych disorders are just about social control.

cloudiah
7 years ago

Hey Argenti, in the other thread I posted an article about a study that might be of interest — only the abstract is available online now, but if you’re interested in seeing the article itself to evaluate the methodology, let me know. (And if you are not interested, that is also okay!)

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
7 years ago

cloudiah — I’ll PM you my email, I do want to look at that, but my brain is too much a depressive fuzzy mess to do so right now (which is also why I’m attempting to ignore that link)

danielleparadis
7 years ago

Ain’t nothing pithy about his axioms. “He’s a writer of almost pathological verbosity; rarely has any writer said so little with so many words” –You’re on point David

katz
7 years ago

It’s like he recognizes that his posts are too long, but can’t figure out the source of the problem.

Shiraz
Shiraz
7 years ago

Um, all of his “statements” are nonsensical. You can’t just throw around a made-up word/idea like “female supremacism” and pretend it has bearing on feminism — which is about anything but.

This grable-fest:

“…non-feminist revolution is not an identifiable human target group but a cloud of forces manifesting through human actions which can sometimes be politically linked to each other, but other times not. (Source).

Is he talking about sexists? They certainly are identifiable. Conservative Republicans, Conservative Christians, MRAs…

“…In the end, the feminist left gets the bulk of its blood supply from the feminist right. And that blood supply is nothing less than old-school gynocentrism itself.” (Source)

I dunno, what the hell is the feminist right? Geln Beck? Phyllis Schlafly? People who talk smack about feminism in the positive generally aren’t on the right. Sexists invented the words “gynocentrism” and “misandry,” calling it “old school” is just an Orwellian retelling of history.

Shiraz
Shiraz
7 years ago

I meant, “People who talk about feminism in the positive generally aren’t on the right.”

danielleparadis
7 years ago

“In the end, the feminist left gets the bulk of its blood supply from the feminist right. And that blood supply is nothing less than old-school gynocentrism itself.”

“Feminism has driven you fifty miles out into the country and left you there to fend for yourselves. Yes, it is unwise to take rides from strangers. Now you’ve got some walking to do, but hopefully the exercise will prove beneficial. I am the messenger.”

I want those on shirts with Unicorns on them.

Shiraz
Shiraz
7 years ago

Shit, I also meant garble-fest and Glen Beck. Excuse me.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
7 years ago

I can never read more than a few paragraphs of is stuff at a time before it all starts to seem bit Time Cube-ish.

Shiraz
Shiraz
7 years ago

Don’t cult leaders, Jim Jones types think like this:

“You know how joiners are. So it is a good idea to prepare something they can cling to, that they will be more readily persuaded to make the jump.”

Yeah. He also seems to think feminism has been influencing culture for thousands of years. You can’t fake stupid like this.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
7 years ago

What, you’re not familiar with founding feminist thinker Dworkines The Elder, who was a contemporary of Aristotle’s?

Shiraz
Shiraz
7 years ago

*giggling* I guess not, Cassandra. I have to live in this reality, not another dimension or parallel world.

Shiraz
Shiraz
7 years ago

Awww hell, gotta retire. ‘Night everyone.

Shadow
Shadow
7 years ago

Feminism has driven you fifty miles out into the country and left you there to fend for yourselves. Yes, it is unwise to take rides from strangers. Now you’ve got some walking to do, but hopefully the exercise will prove beneficial. I am the messenger

This one in particular is bound to become a meme post haste. A real earworm if ever I’ve seen one

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
7 years ago

I want to start ending all my statements with “I am the messenger” now. That’s awesome.

cloudiah
7 years ago

I am watching Mea Maxima Culpa on HBO (about child sexual abuse in the Catholic Church), and it is searingly awful. The wholesale abandonment of children to abuse… Hard to process. How could this happen, for so long with so many people aware of it?

Reporters just uncovered the fact that one of the serial abusers in LA was finally removed from positions of authority in the Church. The Church then gave him a good reference for his next job, with the Los Angeles Unified School District. 0_0

Jake Hamby (@jhamby)
7 years ago

Wait, Fidelbogen’s German? I thought he was a native English speaker. Wow, says a lot about MRA’s writing if a guy whose first language isn’t English and clearly isn’t that good about speaking English sounds just like the native English speakers.

I think David meant that Fidelbogen’s writing sounds as if it were translated from German, even though it presumably wasn’t.

If his stuff was just a little bit funnier I’d suspect that he was a Poe mocking the most jargon-filled kind of academic feminist writing. The first few quotes read like a bizarro world version of something from the Maoist feminist collective that puts out hilarious movie reviews.

That’s exactly what I was thinking when I read it. Well, I was thinking “Marxist MRA collective” but Maoist is even closer to the mark.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
7 years ago

The Church then gave him a good reference for his next job, with the Los Angeles Unified School District. 0_0

“He really loves kids.”

…too far?

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
7 years ago

By the way, has everyone seen this yet?

http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2013/02/04/i-have-nearly-200-tiny-babies-in-my-uterus-right-now/

SO AMAZING. Truly a man boob moment. (Biologists, you may want to be sitting down.)

Deoridhe
Deoridhe
7 years ago

I want to laugh at the gross misuse of both datum and karma, but my face is stuck in this sort of rictus of terror and I can’t! Seem! To! More! It!

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
7 years ago

WordPress why you eat my comment?!

Anyways, regarding dead babies collecting in a uterus, that’s kind of an actual thing (warning, coffee alert, and general grossness) — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithopedion

Really, really rare though, and not remotely related to birth control pills. (This is me applying real science to prevent head implosion)

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
7 years ago

For a minute there I thought Fidelbogen had written some extremely wordy sonnet. I was disappoint.

But then I realized that if I had read it, I would be reading a sonnet written by Fidelbogen. Can you imagine?

My Mistress’ eyes are nothing like the sun.
The shade of red which is on her lips is appreciably less red than that of coral, which is much brighter.
If hairs be wires, one would not be amiss in saying that perhapsily her head appeared to be growing black wires from its surface…

Omit needless words, buddy!

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
7 years ago

In other words, feminism is FEMALE SUPREMACISM. And whatever supports or boosts the female supremacist project is a part of feminism’s cultural supply chain — otherwise known as the Feministical Operations Complex (or “femplex” for short).

lmbo

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
7 years ago

“Feministical” sounds like something that my grandad would have said while on a drunken rant.

…Oh.

cloudiah
7 years ago

“Perhapsily” — like Cassandra, I am totally stealing that.

I am still slogging through this HBO documentary; a priest just argued that he should get a free pass on his child abuse because he gave 23 years of his life to the priesthood. So terrible.

DLColvin (llothcat)
7 years ago

What a wall of blather. Instead of being able to sort through the mess, can only think of a graphic square, filled with that blather, and in front of it stands the speaker, with an empty word balloon.

Love that pic you have up there for it though.

danielleparadis
7 years ago
Reply to  cloudiah

They know! They always threaten my with cat-lady spinsterhood

danielleparadis
7 years ago

Me*

katz
7 years ago

DLColvin, how can we miss you if you won’t leave?

DLColvin (llothcat)
7 years ago

I’ll go as soon as mt scandisk is done. Bored.

gratuitous_violet
gratuitous_violet
7 years ago

I’m pleased (not really) to report that he is just as tedious in Portuguese, which is quite a feat considering it and other Romance languages aren’t as suited for excess verbiage. Of course, if you find yourself a translator who does a literal word-for-word translation while throwing in some weird fuckups while he’s at it, I guess you can be just as painful to read in two languages!

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

Cassandra – that’s what I thought when I saw “joiners”. 😀

“Feminism has driven you fifty miles out into the country and left you there to fend for yourselves. ”

He forgets that feminists are not helpless puppies, we are CATS and you know how quickly cats revert to the wild. All those tales about giant black panthers roaming the hills and killing cattle in [insert country of choice]? They’re really feminists!

Neurite
Neurite
7 years ago

Oh, this is awesome. As someone who seriously needs to work on her conciseness, I am going to declare this a writing exercise. I shall attempt the rewrite each of these quotes into something actually pithy.

1. “Feminism” is a smokescreen to disguise female supremacism.

2. Feminism is not who you are, but what you do.

3. Gynocentrism makes strange bedfellows.

4. Fidelbogen’s acid has kicked in.

5. Feminism is an ongoing effort, but traditional culture set the stage for it.

6. Gynonormativization is integral to the establishment of female supremacy.
(This one was actually already pithy! Nonsensical, but pithy!)

7. Feminism and female supremacism are interchangeable terms.

8. Female supremacism exists.

9. Non-feminists have declared themselves an independent state.

10. Academic feminism is the snake’s head, pop culture is its body.

11. All feminism contributes to a radical feminist future.

12. Divide and conquer.

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