I haven’t had the patience to go through the discussions that developed in the wake of the Men’s Rights Subreddit’s historic winning of the prestigious King Dick of Fart Mountain Subreddit of the Day award yesterday. But I did read enough to come across this little exchange, in which a heroic Men’s Rightser confessed how touched he was that someone outside the Men’s Rights subreddit had noticed the bold, brave activism of Reddit MRAs.
And then someone pointed out some other things he’s said a couple of days ago.
NWOslave, is that you?
Actually, I doubt it; NWOslave has an account under his own name there. But great minds do think alike.
Here’s the link to StarFscker’s original comment in context.
How up your own ass to you have to be to think that you’re forced to think about someone in a sexual way?
He must not think that hetero women have sexual thoughts.
Also, how do I put this in a tactful, non-shaming way? There are some people who I’m not going to think sexual thoughts about no matter how they’re dressed, because I just don’t find them attractive (and I’m bi, so this could be a person of any gender). So either dudebro gets hot for literally any woman whose bra he can see, which seems unlikely, or he simply doesn’t acknowledge the existence of women who he isn’t attracted to.
“…or he simply doesn’t acknowledge the existence of women who he isn’t attracted to.”
Well, they’ve always been famous for that. “Nice Guys” especially, and every dudebro who says things like, “But it’s easy for a woman to have sex!”
I mean, I’m certainly on the more looks-focused end of things (this is part of why our most persistent troll hates me so much), but even I acknowledge that men who I don’t want to fuck exist. What kind of weird mental gymnastics do you have to go through to just sort of not notice the existence of anyone you don’t want to fuck who’s of the right gender, but at the same time notice all the people who you don’t want to fuck because they’re not your preferred gender just fine?
We’re fatties and feminists, not women! Liek, duh!
While that also pisses me off, I do think it’s understandable. I’m not a man, although I do have testicles, and sometimes sitting with my legs close together is very uncomfortable for reasons that I don’t think anyone here cares to hear. The best thing to do, though, is to just stand up if I really feel so uncomfortable that I can’t stand it (which rarely happens, but you know).
Why do you think they do that, Cassandra? I mean, seriously, I want to know what you think. Why pretend you’re living in a movie and all the female roles are played by models, ex-models and actresses who can pass as models?
I don’t know how they manage to not notice women who they don’t want to fuck, but I suspect that it has to have something to do with not thinking women are people. Even so, though, how do you literally not see all the not-your-type-but-still-right-in-front-of-you women who’re walking around all over the place?
I dunno, it seems to be indicative of a level of contempt for people based on sex that I can’t really wrap my head around. Like, I notice bugs, you know? Don’t like them but I can see that they exist.
Alternatively, maybe you notice them but immediately decide that they don’t matter and therefore they don’t count?
@Shiraz
Presumably, it comes with the objectification of women. If you see women as only valuable for sex, you ignore the ones you don’t see as sexy and “women” becomes “women I think of while wanking” or w/e.
@mxe354
That’s interesting. A lot of testicle-bearers feel the same way (never happened to me), presumably because of some minor detail (thigh size? ball size? ball arrangement in underwear? relative ball height?), but there also seems to be a cultural element – the legs-crossed-tightly pose in men is associated with Romance-speaking countries mostly. I remember a pissed-off Roissy post about some statue of dude sitting like that on a bench in Argentina (? I think it Julio Cortazar or some writer-type) that apparently showed how South Americans were all beta feminised pussy-pedestaling herbs or something.
There are indeed some cultures in which men just don’t do that need to stretch my knees two feet wide to give my balls space thing, so either the men in those cultures have been socialized to just tolerate the discomfort or there’s some other factor that I can’t explain going on.
Which, btw, my feeling about that? Public transportation is often uncomfortable, and nobody has a right to make it extra uncomfortable for the person next to them just so they can snag a little bit of extra comfort for themselves. So we’re back to the idea of entitlement.
Hmmm. Yeah, OK. So they’re being shallow, but are hypocritical for calling women shallow for not wanting to have sex with them (because they are not Alphas, or other bullshit).
mxe354 seems to be referring more to more reasonable leg-spreading or other reactions to discomfort rather than the alpha-male “my balls are 3′ in diameter” pose, though.
Ok, I can understand being confused how testicle-havers can sit crossed legged, I can even understand being annoyed, what I can’t understand is taking your mild annoyance (or more likely, jealousy) and turning it into a slur filled screed.
It goes beyond shallow, I think. I know lots of men who’re pretty shallow but still aware that non-hot women exist. I only ever see the ranting about stuff that assumes the non-existence of non-hot women from guys who’re incredibly misogynistic in general.
Also, the guys who do the widely spread knees thing often do other trying to dominate via body language things like hog armrests, etc.
I was friends with a misogynist once, and he’d forget I was female.
Y’all can’t see me, but it’s seriously not difficult to miss.
Another thought – maybe choice of underwear factors into comfort level when one is in a situation where space is an issue?
Straight up sexism? Yeah. Also, I think they think that the greatest gift you can give to a female is telling her she’s pretty or beautiful, so when they don’t reward you with sex, they get pissed, bitter and downright angry.
@CassandraSays
I did mention that. It seems like it’d be in some counterintuitive way, though – surely tight briefs and closer-fitting pants are most used in the same places where testicle-bearers crossing legs is most common? Possibly something to do with the interplay of the way one is naturally inclined to cross one’s legs and the way one dresses in the tailoring sense. Or whether you’re more a cock-up or cock-down person when arranging yourself.
What we need is a lot of people with testicles, some scientists, and a group with really odd ideas about what worthwhile research to fund looks like. . .
So, evo-psychs?
Presumably because he has a strict idea about how women are and you didn’t fit. I know some guys like that; they have these ideas about women looking and acting a certain way and doing Women Stuff that’s automatically boring, and when I’m not like that they just stop associating me with women altogether.
@Argenti
That, or we could hint that it’d somehow disprove climate change.
The boyfriend has an occasionally really painful, but otherwise safe, healthy, whatever cyst in one if his testicles and I know that underwear choice can make a big difference in how much it bothers him so I assume that it would matter for testicles without cysts, BUT as he just ducks into a bathroom to adjust if necessary or deals with the pain and has never managed to take up more than a single seat, I’m not willing to cut a lot of slack for the majority of guys who do it who, just statistically, probably are not dealing with an abnormal testicle issue.