Today is an auspicious day. For the Men’s Rights Subreddit, which we often write about here on Man Boobz, has won the prestigious World’s Greatest Shitlord Award. Oh, sorry, I mean it won the Subreddit of the Day award on Reddit. Which is, in this case, pretty much the same thing.
Here are some highlights from the official announcement , which I am totally not making up. No, really, you can go look. Someone – that being XavierMendel, one of the mods of r/subredditoftheday — actually wrote these things. And meant them. I AM NOT BEING SARCASTIC THIS IS REAL HOLY SHIT.
The topic at hand today takes a generous turn from our amusing and lighthearted articles of the month. On this, the last day of January, we look at something a bit more worthy to be called an article. /r/MensRights comes up a lot across reddit and, indeed, across the world as being one of the few centers for men’s help. It’s often attacked, and is always the center of one controversy or the other. My questions reflect that. MensRights is, undoubtedly, the home of great activists.
Again. I am not making this up.
There were some people close to me that suggested I not run this article. That the repercussions of doing so would be unreasonably bad. Well, here you go, people. This is my way of saying that a good reporter doesn’t care. A good reporter reports. It’s not in my job to care about consequences.
I’m not sure that Mr. Mendel quite understands the difference between “reporting” and “asskissing.”
/r/MensRights. Never in our society could the uninitiated imagine such a place. A place where feminism is questioned, and our culture is deconstructed to find what it’s really up to.
Hahaha, what? I was not aware that feminism wasn’t ever questioned on the internet, or anywhere else in “our society.” I mean, it’s not like I run a blog that features nearly 500 posts detailing people attacking feminism on the internet, most of them nastily and ignorantly and sometimes using the word “cunt,” and the vast majority of them not on Reddit. And it’s not like this only barely scratches the surface of the subject.
/r/MensRights is one of the last fortifications of free thought to exist on Reddit.
Yeah, that’s why I was banned – not for trolling or harassing or calling anyone names, but for politely if persistently disagreeing with the denizens until then-moderator ignatiusloyola threw a fit.
“Surely you jest,” one might tell me, “when you mean they’re alone in this regard?” No, hypothetical 19th century British gentleman, I do not. I truly mean it when I say that. What other subreddit openly questions feminism? None spring to mind, and I make it my duty to catalog various subreddits. Most end up banned or run down within a month. Only /r/MensRights remains.
Reddit: Bastion of Internet Feminism.
Nobody can say for sure whether or not they’re correct in any single regard. It’s certain that, due to the laws of probability, they’re not correct in every regard. However, it’s also certain that they’re correct in most of them. Occasionally a wackjob or two will suggest that feminism is behind Cinnamon Toast Crunch (The taste you can see!™). The accuser latches onto those wackjobs to denounce the whole movement.
Yeah, it’s not as if comments suggesting that a man allegedly wronged in divorce court should turn to murder got literally dozens of upvotes in r/mensrights, or anything.
Oh wait, they did.
Yeah, it’s not as if Men’s Rights Redditors gave literally hundreds of upvotes to a post about a t-shirt suggesting that men could be convicted of rape simply for being in a room alone with a woman.
Oh wait, they did.
It’s not as if Men’s Rights Redditors regularly give dozens if not hundreds of upvotes to posts from unhinged hate sites like A Voice for Men or Angry Harry,or fall all over themselves praising an internet-famous female MRA who thinks that many abused women “demand” their abuse.
It’s not as if they think “spermjacking” is a real thing in the world that should make all men think twice about ejaculating in the general vicinity of women.
It’s not like … oh, you can find many, many more examples for yourself.
After claiming that “people have died” after being called misogynists, while “nobody ever dies after being called a misandrist,” Mr. Mendel winds up his speech with this stirring conclusion:
I support the struggles of people who are in bad positions. I respect it, in a way, for I have also seen great struggle. My struggle is not over, nor will it end until my death. For I struggle with something that will not go away through legislation or social change. The Men’s Rights Movement, however, struggles with something very changeable. Very malleable, able to be fixed within a generation if so desired. So I will support them, for they have a fighting chance. …
/r/MensRights is controversial for a reason. In the same sense as Jews of the 1890s, Irish of the 1850s, Hispanics of the 1350s, and many more. Each generation has their controversial improvement in society. We’ve gotten off easy so far, but we have to make it happen eventually. As far back as anyone living can remember, the table has been imbalanced in one way or another, favoring men or women. It’s time the table stays level for once. We need equality.
And that’s what /r/MensRights is trying to do.
Oy yoy yoy. There’s so much ridiculousness to unpack there that it makes me tired. I think I’ll go take a nap.
Mr. Mendel followed his stirring introduction with some questions for the denizens of r/mensrights. And there was some discussion. I can’t even. Not right now. I’ll get to all that in a future post.
In the meantime, Skepchick’s Rebecca Watson – who has been on the receiving end of r/menrights’ heroic activism more than once — has her own reaction to the Men’s Rights is the Subreddit of the Day announcement.
OK that was way too depressing for a Saturday night. Maybe this instead?
Hey, no hating on Joe Cocker OR Van Morrison! 😉
I love the Fine Young Cannibals too! And ELO. In fact, this was on the radio yesterday morning when I woke up:
http://youtu.be/i2d45tOgBl0
Wait, if Cassandra’s 1,001, did I do it?!
Fire On High, one of my favourites:
http://youtu.be/ZTdbR0CQuYM
^It was you, Argenti.
Damn. #1002. Just missed it.
OK my last nostalgia video for the night. I gotta get to bed:
http://youtu.be/j83xviHVmGg
Random trivia – the lead guitar player of that band (the one whose style Izzy Stradlin stole) is married to the cousin of Johnny Thunders. That was one of the most incestuous music scenes ever.
Currently being blasted into my brain —
Seriously, give this a try. Forgive the slow build-up:
W00t I did it!!
Also, all the trigger warnings actually, that might be the rare Garbage song without a rape reference, but everything else? Yeah.
Cool video to go with this copy of Jane Seymour, too (don’t ask me what the lady in the millstone ruff is doing there, she’s from a generation or two later).
http://youtu.be/EBOM3GScOXE
I’m contrary enough to immediately want to keep any thread going indefinitely once someone claims that it’s over.
I guess it’s finally bedtime for babies in Boston? Awesome.
Say, that guy on the right in the BTO pic is rather good looking. Reminds me of someone. 😉
Ditto.
Cassandra, it is nearly 1 am on this coast!
katz — best part is we can keep a thread going for quite awhile, maybe we should try for the endless open thread?
@The Kitteh’s Unpaid Help
Fuck, that probably didn’t register. Sorry about that, Argenti.
This probably means I should go to sleep (it’s 6am).
It’s a strategy that would make sense if it wasn’t prefaced with the (implicit or explicit) disbelief, fersure.
Damn, I shouldn’t have listened to the Jane Seymour track. Haven’t heard it in years and now it won’t stop.
I’m listening to all the music posts…yeah, let’s keep the post alive! It’s 1 am where I am.
It’s 5pm here – at least we’re all in the same day at the moment! 🙂
🙂
For complete and utter trivia, here’s one of the tunics I bought yesterday. Can’t wear it as a dress; it’s barely mid-thigh length.
Wear it with jeans, kitteh.
Eh, it’s fine, my Garbage playing was started with a Metal Heart reference — see, there’s one perk of my father being an asshole, in comparison I can take just about anything. (Granted, always being the strong one has its own downfalls)
But yeah, you guys are fine!
Kitteh — implicit, like thre had to be some reason that I have more conflict with his assholeness than my mother and brother, besides that I refuse to just walk on eggshells. I’ve done plenty of that, and fuck, getting accused of being unreasonable for being reasonably upset is about my only RAGE FACE fine I’ll tiptoe moment, and even that’s just because there’s no fucking point to picking a battle you can’t win.
But tolerating abuse got me raped twice and a gas lighting narcissist ex, and I am Not Doing It. This is not a negotiable point, and if it causes me conflict with him, that’s his goddamned problem. Best option here is probably “find a better way to deal with the conflict” — except picking my battles and then risking my hearing is my preferred option (I’ve turned it down to reasonable levels!)
Metal Heart is ALL THE IRONY, lyrics = don’t actually have one, effect = oh that’s where I left mine. It’s a bit weird!
Shiraz — we’re in the same time zone then! *waves*