Today is an auspicious day. For the Men’s Rights Subreddit, which we often write about here on Man Boobz, has won the prestigious World’s Greatest Shitlord Award. Oh, sorry, I mean it won the Subreddit of the Day award on Reddit. Which is, in this case, pretty much the same thing.
Here are some highlights from the official announcement , which I am totally not making up. No, really, you can go look. Someone – that being XavierMendel, one of the mods of r/subredditoftheday — actually wrote these things. And meant them. I AM NOT BEING SARCASTIC THIS IS REAL HOLY SHIT.
The topic at hand today takes a generous turn from our amusing and lighthearted articles of the month. On this, the last day of January, we look at something a bit more worthy to be called an article. /r/MensRights comes up a lot across reddit and, indeed, across the world as being one of the few centers for men’s help. It’s often attacked, and is always the center of one controversy or the other. My questions reflect that. MensRights is, undoubtedly, the home of great activists.
Again. I am not making this up.
There were some people close to me that suggested I not run this article. That the repercussions of doing so would be unreasonably bad. Well, here you go, people. This is my way of saying that a good reporter doesn’t care. A good reporter reports. It’s not in my job to care about consequences.
I’m not sure that Mr. Mendel quite understands the difference between “reporting” and “asskissing.”
/r/MensRights. Never in our society could the uninitiated imagine such a place. A place where feminism is questioned, and our culture is deconstructed to find what it’s really up to.
Hahaha, what? I was not aware that feminism wasn’t ever questioned on the internet, or anywhere else in “our society.” I mean, it’s not like I run a blog that features nearly 500 posts detailing people attacking feminism on the internet, most of them nastily and ignorantly and sometimes using the word “cunt,” and the vast majority of them not on Reddit. And it’s not like this only barely scratches the surface of the subject.
/r/MensRights is one of the last fortifications of free thought to exist on Reddit.
Yeah, that’s why I was banned – not for trolling or harassing or calling anyone names, but for politely if persistently disagreeing with the denizens until then-moderator ignatiusloyola threw a fit.
“Surely you jest,” one might tell me, “when you mean they’re alone in this regard?” No, hypothetical 19th century British gentleman, I do not. I truly mean it when I say that. What other subreddit openly questions feminism? None spring to mind, and I make it my duty to catalog various subreddits. Most end up banned or run down within a month. Only /r/MensRights remains.
Reddit: Bastion of Internet Feminism.
Nobody can say for sure whether or not they’re correct in any single regard. It’s certain that, due to the laws of probability, they’re not correct in every regard. However, it’s also certain that they’re correct in most of them. Occasionally a wackjob or two will suggest that feminism is behind Cinnamon Toast Crunch (The taste you can see!™). The accuser latches onto those wackjobs to denounce the whole movement.
Yeah, it’s not as if comments suggesting that a man allegedly wronged in divorce court should turn to murder got literally dozens of upvotes in r/mensrights, or anything.
Oh wait, they did.
Yeah, it’s not as if Men’s Rights Redditors gave literally hundreds of upvotes to a post about a t-shirt suggesting that men could be convicted of rape simply for being in a room alone with a woman.
Oh wait, they did.
It’s not as if Men’s Rights Redditors regularly give dozens if not hundreds of upvotes to posts from unhinged hate sites like A Voice for Men or Angry Harry,or fall all over themselves praising an internet-famous female MRA who thinks that many abused women “demand” their abuse.
It’s not as if they think “spermjacking” is a real thing in the world that should make all men think twice about ejaculating in the general vicinity of women.
It’s not like … oh, you can find many, many more examples for yourself.
After claiming that “people have died” after being called misogynists, while “nobody ever dies after being called a misandrist,” Mr. Mendel winds up his speech with this stirring conclusion:
I support the struggles of people who are in bad positions. I respect it, in a way, for I have also seen great struggle. My struggle is not over, nor will it end until my death. For I struggle with something that will not go away through legislation or social change. The Men’s Rights Movement, however, struggles with something very changeable. Very malleable, able to be fixed within a generation if so desired. So I will support them, for they have a fighting chance. …
/r/MensRights is controversial for a reason. In the same sense as Jews of the 1890s, Irish of the 1850s, Hispanics of the 1350s, and many more. Each generation has their controversial improvement in society. We’ve gotten off easy so far, but we have to make it happen eventually. As far back as anyone living can remember, the table has been imbalanced in one way or another, favoring men or women. It’s time the table stays level for once. We need equality.
And that’s what /r/MensRights is trying to do.
Oy yoy yoy. There’s so much ridiculousness to unpack there that it makes me tired. I think I’ll go take a nap.
Mr. Mendel followed his stirring introduction with some questions for the denizens of r/mensrights. And there was some discussion. I can’t even. Not right now. I’ll get to all that in a future post.
In the meantime, Skepchick’s Rebecca Watson – who has been on the receiving end of r/menrights’ heroic activism more than once — has her own reaction to the Men’s Rights is the Subreddit of the Day announcement.
Hello fathertime.
You can’t reference a site or indiviudal who reps non-evil MRA. And it seems very important to you that we know all MRAs are not baddies. So, I’m assuming that you yourself must be a “good” MRA? If so, you should offer yourself up as an example.
Then answer our questions about the non-evil side of the MRA…because there will be questions, lots and lots.
“Depends on how long you guys can keep up…” Oh, this crew can keep up, friend. We’re all in different Time Zones for starters. When one of us goes to bed, three others get up with the coffee, ready for some action.
OK, so, here’s my first question to a non-evil MRA (that would be you). What do you think of abortion rights?
Kiwi girl, your scalloped potatoes look super simple!
(Oh, and the salt and pepper go in the sauce in my recipe. My sister’s cookbook needs a proofreader.)
Aww, CWS, that doesn’t sound fun at all. Hugs if you want them.
Argenti, I’m guessing it isn’t a live trap? My granddad used to live-trap squirrels to keep them away from his pecans. He’d let them go at the nearest park. I think if my grandmother wasn’t around, he’d shoot them too, but that still seems less cruel than trapping to kill.
@clairedammit – yes I’m in the US. I have a phobia about melted cheese, though. (No, really. My dad and I used to make my mom sit at the far end of the table whenever she would make mac and cheese, and we’d put stuff in between her plate and the rest of the table so we couldn’t see it.) I never ate pizza even back when I could have cheese for that reason.
I need to work up the courage to try goat cheese, I think. Now that I live somewhere that I could actually find it in a grocery store. I have soy yogurt and coconut milk ice cream to comfort me otherwise.
I miss my toasted cheese sammiches though. 🙁
Ooh, bras! LMTY, I hate bra shopping. I’ve gone and gotten fitted a couple of times because my friends all swore up and down that I’d feel a lot better when I had a professional fitting and then I could buy the correct size. Guess what? I am a non-existent size. Really. I have to buy a band that’s too small but has the right cup size for my body, and then use extenders, which means the straps fall down ALL THE DAMN TIME. Drives me batty.
Which reminds me, I’m going to need to replace a couple of my bras soon.
Yes, I feel pulled forward by my boobs unless the bra is underwired, plus they don’t jiggle as much. Also, the underwire gives an overall better shape to my body as a whole. Balconette cups help with that too.
Not to mention I’m the goddamned definition of insomnia, you can expect my ass to be here for the next 20+ hours pal (two screens FTW!)
Thanks hellkell, are they good for larger boobs? And interesting on the heat thing, I wouldn’t be able to wear them probably for 3months of the year.
I can’t wear bras anymore because they are just too tight/painful on my fibromyalgiaed skin. I used to wear a 38C with underwire and I actually preferred strapless. I have 5 or 6 (mostly the same brand and style) strapless bras that I loved and worse everyday. They had a but if padding and a very high cup so I never got the squished four-boob thing that I’ve heard people complain about and that my first strapless bra did.
No, not live traps, he’s talking about cutting off the tail and keeping it, he’s pissed at the skunk because his stupid dog keeps barking at it and scaring it and duh, it sprays. And this is apparently the skunk’s fault. I am Not. Pleased.
*loved and WORE. I don’t want to give anyone the impression that I had a non-platonic relationship with my underwear.
@Clairedammit – I hate the bra advertising too. I pissed off a saleswoman in Lane Bryant once by pointing out that not everyone wants their bra to make their boobs look bigger or a bra that will call attention to their chest. Especially when at work.
of course, Lane Bryant is a terrible option for work clothes, at least for anyone who works in an environment that is the slightest bit conservative or traditional. (I said that to her too, and she got even madder.)
Thank the loward for the internet.
@clairedammit
Thanks *accepts hugs* I have an assessment for my mental health on Monday, so hopefully I’ll get some actual medication and treatment rather than self-medicating with chocolate, and hopefully less yeast infections.
I’m a C-cup and I bought the Ah-bra here, on the advertisement bit that said it was good for sport. No it’s not, the support is barely there and my breasts ache even if I do a small amount of gentle jogging. It would be okay for the gym so long as it was just weights or upper arm exercises.
The best bras I have bought have been from Bras n Things who I first found the one time I was in Melbourne. These are super comfortable and the under-wire is removable: http://www.brasnthings.co.nz/store/lingerie/bras/full-cup/rose-t-shirt-full-cup-bra.html
@rest, have you tried Bravissimo? I think they are fabulous.
Drst, I have a relative with a thing about the texture of melted cheese – something about the way it sticks to the back of his teeth.
Even though I’m small-busted, I like underwires because I don’t like my boobs to move at all. I think it comes from years of being even smaller than I am now.
Is the troll gone yet?
Sorry, drst, i blame the autocorrect imp
I will agree that bras where the underwire is the wrong size or shape are very uncomfortable. Which is why I keep going back to Freya, because they fit me well. Wacoal doesn’t work for me at all, pokes me in the armpit and feels like it’s trying to make my boobs wider and flatter than they are? Not a size issue, just the wrong shape.
“Fun facts I learned tonight:”
Ooh let me add:
Forgetting the names of internet strangers you haven’t spoken to in months or years is considered suspicious.
Keeping a list of everyone you’ve spoken to on the internet as well as some fact about them is not considered creepy or abnormal behavior.
“Some Gal not Bored at All” actually has the capacity to learn things (or at least claims to, it’s a pretty wild claim so the jury’s still out).
Anyway
“So, I’m assuming that you yourself must be a “good” MRA?”
Nope. Not an MRA.
Clearly we are. /smirk
BogMomma: I’m a C cup, and if you need or want a lot of support, this isn’t for you. I wouldn’t work out in it.
Ah, I see. So, fathertime, why are you so invested in their reputation? What’s motivating you?
Oooh, thanks for all the recipes. I wasn’t expecting they’d be made with cheddar for some reason. (hellkell, I already make awesome mashed potatoes but thanks! Do you use a ricer?)
I have some practicing to do…
I’m sorry I don’t have a recipe to share for it (it’s her “thing” so I don’t ask), but the boyfriend’s mother makes the most delicious potato dish. I know it has lots of white wine and a bunch of Emmental (I think) cheese.
Best potato dish I’ve ever eaten and I make the best mashed potatoes in the world (ymmv).
Hello?
I was thinking of using Gruyere. Thoughts?