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Today is an auspicious day. For the Men’s Rights Subreddit, which we often write about here on Man Boobz, has won the prestigious World’s Greatest Shitlord Award. Oh, sorry, I mean it won the Subreddit of the Day award on Reddit. Which is, in this case, pretty much the same thing.

Here are some highlights from the official announcement , which I am totally not making up. No, really, you can go look. Someone – that being XavierMendel, one of the mods of r/subredditoftheday — actually wrote these things. And meant them. I AM NOT BEING SARCASTIC THIS IS REAL HOLY SHIT.

The topic at hand today takes a generous turn from our amusing and lighthearted articles of the month. On this, the last day of January, we look at something a bit more worthy to be called an article. /r/MensRights comes up a lot across reddit and, indeed, across the world as being one of the few centers for men’s help. It’s often attacked, and is always the center of one controversy or the other. My questions reflect that. MensRights is, undoubtedly, the home of great activists.

Again. I am not making this up.

There were some people close to me that suggested I not run this article. That the repercussions of doing so would be unreasonably bad. Well, here you go, people. This is my way of saying that a good reporter doesn’t care. A good reporter reports. It’s not in my job to care about consequences.

I’m not sure that Mr. Mendel quite understands the difference between “reporting” and “asskissing.”

/r/MensRights. Never in our society could the uninitiated imagine such a place. A place where feminism is questioned, and our culture is deconstructed to find what it’s really up to.

Hahaha, what? I was not aware that feminism wasn’t ever questioned on the internet, or anywhere else in “our society.” I mean, it’s not like I run a blog that features nearly 500 posts detailing people attacking feminism on the internet, most of them nastily and ignorantly and sometimes using the word “cunt,” and the vast majority of them not on Reddit. And it’s not like this only barely scratches the surface of the subject.

/r/MensRights is one of the last fortifications of free thought to exist on Reddit.

Yeah, that’s why I was banned – not for trolling or harassing or calling anyone names, but for politely if persistently disagreeing with the denizens until then-moderator ignatiusloyola threw a fit.

“Surely you jest,” one might tell me, “when you mean they’re alone in this regard?” No, hypothetical 19th century British gentleman, I do not. I truly mean it when I say that. What other subreddit openly questions feminism? None spring to mind, and I make it my duty to catalog various subreddits. Most end up banned or run down within a month. Only /r/MensRights remains.

Reddit: Bastion of Internet Feminism.

Nobody can say for sure whether or not they’re correct in any single regard. It’s certain that, due to the laws of probability, they’re not correct in every regard. However, it’s also certain that they’re correct in most of them. Occasionally a wackjob or two will suggest that feminism is behind Cinnamon Toast Crunch (The taste you can see!™). The accuser latches onto those wackjobs to denounce the whole movement.

Yeah, it’s not as if comments suggesting that a man allegedly wronged in divorce court should turn to murder got literally dozens of upvotes in r/mensrights, or anything.

Oh wait, they did.

Yeah, it’s not as if Men’s Rights Redditors gave literally hundreds of upvotes to a post about a t-shirt suggesting that men could be convicted of rape simply for being in a room alone with a woman.

Oh wait, they did.

It’s not as if Men’s Rights Redditors regularly give dozens if not hundreds of upvotes to posts from unhinged hate sites like A Voice for Men or Angry Harry,or fall all over themselves praising an internet-famous female MRA who thinks that many abused women “demand” their abuse.

It’s not as if they think “spermjacking” is a real thing in the world that should make all men think twice about ejaculating in the general vicinity of women.

It’s not like … oh, you can find many, many more examples for yourself.

After claiming that “people have died” after being called misogynists, while “nobody ever dies after being called a misandrist,” Mr. Mendel winds up his speech with this stirring conclusion:

I support the struggles of people who are in bad positions. I respect it, in a way, for I have also seen great struggle. My struggle is not over, nor will it end until my death. For I struggle with something that will not go away through legislation or social change. The Men’s Rights Movement, however, struggles with something very changeable. Very malleable, able to be fixed within a generation if so desired. So I will support them, for they have a fighting chance. …

 /r/MensRights is controversial for a reason. In the same sense as Jews of the 1890s, Irish of the 1850s, Hispanics of the 1350s, and many more. Each generation has their controversial improvement in society. We’ve gotten off easy so far, but we have to make it happen eventually. As far back as anyone living can remember, the table has been imbalanced in one way or another, favoring men or women. It’s time the table stays level for once. We need equality.

And that’s what /r/MensRights is trying to do.

Oy yoy yoy. There’s so much ridiculousness to unpack there that it makes me tired. I think I’ll go take a nap.

Mr. Mendel followed his stirring introduction with some questions for the denizens of r/mensrights. And there was some discussion. I can’t even. Not right now. I’ll get to all that in a future post.

In the meantime, Skepchick’s Rebecca Watson – who has been on the receiving end of r/menrights’ heroic activism more than once —  has her own reaction to the Men’s Rights is the Subreddit of the Day announcement.

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thebewilderness
thebewilderness
11 years ago

I know it is complete madness, but they pay this d00d to talk on the radio. Srsly!
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/01/radio-host-women-on-birth-control-pill-have-wombs-embedded-with-little-tiny-fetuses/

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

“The burden is on you to claim that what you have is a significant portion of MRA’s.”

Um…we’re not proving that with every post. You’re the one making the claim that this isn’t representative / is cherry picking. First, your claim, your rudeness of proof. Second, quite obviously more than a handful of MRAs agree with this shit, or it wouldn’t get so fucking many up votes. Obvious thing is obvious.

OT, this show took 3/4ths of the show to figure out that ergot poisoning doesn’t case vomiting.

fathertime89
fathertime89
11 years ago

“Not all MRAs are as evil/whatever as our examples, and you (we) can’t prove they are all evil, so they must not be.”

Amazing how you can talk fallacies and not know about straw men. I said I’ve encountered some and haven’t kept a record of them because I’m not a fucking psycho who keeps records of online strangers they don’t care about.

Speaking of which the claim that all MRA’s are bad is pretty extraordinary and since you seem to want proof so badly I’d like to see yours. I already told you why I don’t have any concrete records of my experience with MRA’s.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

^rudeness of proof? I kind of love that.

Creative Writing Student

RE: dead foetus guy

*twitching in foetal position* That’s another round of spawning-related nightmares tonight.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

@ nat

Do you find yourself picking bands to work with on the basis of whether or not they give good quotes and are pleasant to work with rather than whether you like their music? I started out being all about the music, but the more I do this the more I lean towards working with artists who I know are a. not giant divas and b. likely to give good quotes.

As an example, I probably should set up an interview with Big German Industrial Legends, but I don’t really want to deal with them because I’ve heard all kinds of bad things, and I refuse to work with Avenged Sevenfold for the same reason. But if as I suspect HIM make it over here later in the year I probably will try to do something on them, even though I think they’re a bit cheesy, because I’ve heard only good things about them from a professionalism perspective.

thenatfantastic
thenatfantastic
11 years ago

@Cloudiah – picture this conversation:

DadFantastic has just been to Amsterdam. I go to his house because he lets me smoke.

DF (02:00) Nat… we want to get a bit jazzed… can you give us any recommendations?

Me: Jazzed? What is jazzed? You want to take DRUGS? nope no idea evah.

This went on for about three months. When I was 15.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

fathertime: straw men, like the evil feminists in your head that are clearly acting up tonight?

Argenti: go on and get him. He think you don’t know about straw men.

I’m getting popcorn, I’ll make enough to share.

fathertime89
fathertime89
11 years ago

“Um…we’re not proving that with every post.”

You’re not proving this with the entire damn blog.

And hey you know reddit allows anyone to upvote a post and 50-150 upvotes is hardly a representative sample of MRA’s. So no you haven’t proven shit.

Anyone can make a blog chronicling all the horrible things people of group X say or do.

cloudiah
11 years ago

Wow, thebewilderness, just wow. Father Time, you’re going to have to do a lot better to compete with that.

Some Gal Not Bored at All

@fathertime

So are you now claiming that you can’t even give us the forum where you encountered these “moderate” “MRAs”?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Umm…this is going to pain me to say, but NWO apparently had a point — http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/fluoride_b_2479833.html

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

fatherwasteoftime: if you’re not an MRA, why do give a shit about cherry picking or what the fuck ever has your knickers in such a twist? I’ll pat you on the head and say you’re the most reasonable, fair and balanced snowflake of all time if that gets you to fuck off.

thenatfantastic
thenatfantastic
11 years ago

@Kittehs i’ve always done stuff with her rather than buy her things. The thing is she still has stuff from all her siblings (21, 14, 12, 11, 8 years older than her) so she doesn’t need books or toys or owt, because her bedroom is full.

cloudiah
11 years ago

“A bit jazzed,” that’s adorable.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

“Argenti: go on and get him. He think you don’t know about straw men.”

You’re going to have to give me ~15 before I can make him crunchy and good with ketchup, Victorian morgues have my attention at present!

thenatfantastic
thenatfantastic
11 years ago

@Cassandra I can pick and choose because it’s a big site with load of people who’ll pick it up if I don’t.

fathertime89
fathertime89
11 years ago

“So are you now claiming that you can’t even give us the forum where you encountered these “moderate” “MRAs”?”

Where the hell did I say that?

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
11 years ago

Troll:

And hey you know reddit allows anyone to upvote a post and 50-150 upvotes is hardly a representative sample of MRA’s

How the fuck would you know?

Some Gal Not Bored at All

@fathertime

Well, I asked for the forum and all you’ve managed to come up with since is some ableist shit about not having the records. I’ll ask again: What was the forum?

fathertime89
fathertime89
11 years ago

>How the fuck would you know?

For starters that subreddit has over 60,000 subscribers.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Once again, trollboy refuses to name the moderates, not even a forum. Wonder why?

Also troll: MRA’s what?

Stop the apostrophe abuse!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

See, the problem our troll is encountering is that his story makes no sense. Anyone who isn’t all that invested in the MRA “cause” wouldn’t care enough to argue about our perspective on them this much. Unless they were lulz trolling, in which case there’s no reason for anyone to engage with them seriously.

The whole I’m not an MRA but I’m still very concerned that they not be regarded negatively and I’m willing to spend as much time as necessary but I’m not trolling honest thing doesn’t fly, I’m not sure why he thought anyone would buy it.

cloudiah
11 years ago

Some Gal, I think I found the forum!

http://www.fanciers.com/forums.html

fathertime89
fathertime89
11 years ago

” I’ll ask again: What was the forum?”

I believe there were some on Newgrounds and the Escapist.

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