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Today is an auspicious day. For the Men’s Rights Subreddit, which we often write about here on Man Boobz, has won the prestigious World’s Greatest Shitlord Award. Oh, sorry, I mean it won the Subreddit of the Day award on Reddit. Which is, in this case, pretty much the same thing.

Here are some highlights from the official announcement , which I am totally not making up. No, really, you can go look. Someone – that being XavierMendel, one of the mods of r/subredditoftheday — actually wrote these things. And meant them. I AM NOT BEING SARCASTIC THIS IS REAL HOLY SHIT.

The topic at hand today takes a generous turn from our amusing and lighthearted articles of the month. On this, the last day of January, we look at something a bit more worthy to be called an article. /r/MensRights comes up a lot across reddit and, indeed, across the world as being one of the few centers for men’s help. It’s often attacked, and is always the center of one controversy or the other. My questions reflect that. MensRights is, undoubtedly, the home of great activists.

Again. I am not making this up.

There were some people close to me that suggested I not run this article. That the repercussions of doing so would be unreasonably bad. Well, here you go, people. This is my way of saying that a good reporter doesn’t care. A good reporter reports. It’s not in my job to care about consequences.

I’m not sure that Mr. Mendel quite understands the difference between “reporting” and “asskissing.”

/r/MensRights. Never in our society could the uninitiated imagine such a place. A place where feminism is questioned, and our culture is deconstructed to find what it’s really up to.

Hahaha, what? I was not aware that feminism wasn’t ever questioned on the internet, or anywhere else in “our society.” I mean, it’s not like I run a blog that features nearly 500 posts detailing people attacking feminism on the internet, most of them nastily and ignorantly and sometimes using the word “cunt,” and the vast majority of them not on Reddit. And it’s not like this only barely scratches the surface of the subject.

/r/MensRights is one of the last fortifications of free thought to exist on Reddit.

Yeah, that’s why I was banned – not for trolling or harassing or calling anyone names, but for politely if persistently disagreeing with the denizens until then-moderator ignatiusloyola threw a fit.

“Surely you jest,” one might tell me, “when you mean they’re alone in this regard?” No, hypothetical 19th century British gentleman, I do not. I truly mean it when I say that. What other subreddit openly questions feminism? None spring to mind, and I make it my duty to catalog various subreddits. Most end up banned or run down within a month. Only /r/MensRights remains.

Reddit: Bastion of Internet Feminism.

Nobody can say for sure whether or not they’re correct in any single regard. It’s certain that, due to the laws of probability, they’re not correct in every regard. However, it’s also certain that they’re correct in most of them. Occasionally a wackjob or two will suggest that feminism is behind Cinnamon Toast Crunch (The taste you can see!™). The accuser latches onto those wackjobs to denounce the whole movement.

Yeah, it’s not as if comments suggesting that a man allegedly wronged in divorce court should turn to murder got literally dozens of upvotes in r/mensrights, or anything.

Oh wait, they did.

Yeah, it’s not as if Men’s Rights Redditors gave literally hundreds of upvotes to a post about a t-shirt suggesting that men could be convicted of rape simply for being in a room alone with a woman.

Oh wait, they did.

It’s not as if Men’s Rights Redditors regularly give dozens if not hundreds of upvotes to posts from unhinged hate sites like A Voice for Men or Angry Harry,or fall all over themselves praising an internet-famous female MRA who thinks that many abused women “demand” their abuse.

It’s not as if they think “spermjacking” is a real thing in the world that should make all men think twice about ejaculating in the general vicinity of women.

It’s not like … oh, you can find many, many more examples for yourself.

After claiming that “people have died” after being called misogynists, while “nobody ever dies after being called a misandrist,” Mr. Mendel winds up his speech with this stirring conclusion:

I support the struggles of people who are in bad positions. I respect it, in a way, for I have also seen great struggle. My struggle is not over, nor will it end until my death. For I struggle with something that will not go away through legislation or social change. The Men’s Rights Movement, however, struggles with something very changeable. Very malleable, able to be fixed within a generation if so desired. So I will support them, for they have a fighting chance. …

 /r/MensRights is controversial for a reason. In the same sense as Jews of the 1890s, Irish of the 1850s, Hispanics of the 1350s, and many more. Each generation has their controversial improvement in society. We’ve gotten off easy so far, but we have to make it happen eventually. As far back as anyone living can remember, the table has been imbalanced in one way or another, favoring men or women. It’s time the table stays level for once. We need equality.

And that’s what /r/MensRights is trying to do.

Oy yoy yoy. There’s so much ridiculousness to unpack there that it makes me tired. I think I’ll go take a nap.

Mr. Mendel followed his stirring introduction with some questions for the denizens of r/mensrights. And there was some discussion. I can’t even. Not right now. I’ll get to all that in a future post.

In the meantime, Skepchick’s Rebecca Watson – who has been on the receiving end of r/menrights’ heroic activism more than once —  has her own reaction to the Men’s Rights is the Subreddit of the Day announcement.

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Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Cassandra — re: coffee — YMMV! I’m a fan of the hazelnut stuff, whipped cream and cinnamon, but I run on coffee!

And my brother will oly use grated cheese that’s parmesan, romano AND asiago — which is a serious improvement over the days he’d only eat ziti with cheese (not pasta, ziti). Of course, he was like 6 then, and 24 now, so yeah…

All three I guess?

Pecunium — sweet pizza sauce?! Here I figured NYC pizza couldn’t be that different from New Haven’s! (General family opinion is that neither pepe’s nor modern are worth the wait, and don’t even try on a weekend.)

cloudiah
11 years ago

I know katz, I know. I couldn’t resist whacking him over the head with his own words.

Creative Writing Student

@CassandraSays

It’s like a vaguely Gothic-themed random word generator…

fathertime89
fathertime89
11 years ago

>But I can’t remember when or if I’ve ever seen MRAs in the wild because that would be haaaaaaaaaaaard

So you keep a record of every person you ever have a conversation with in a forum?

Can I see it?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

I can’t wait for Argenti to finally read Monstrous Regiment, since zie’s coffee fixation has led to me picturing hir as Maledict.

cloudiah
11 years ago

Argenti, my sister and BiL are kind of off Pepe’s and Modern too. They were telling me about some other pizza places to try the next time I’m back there. (Springtime, I hope.)

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

And now I’m reading about a band called Azure Emote.

fathertime89
fathertime89
11 years ago

“We’ve been asking for just one example for two pages.”

And I’ve explained repeatedly that I don’t remember the names of those people I talked to on a forum.

Not my fault you can’t accept the answer. I can give you the forum if you want (it’s not a forum about gender issues though).

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

“As Maledict” love it! 😀

cloudiah, I guess your mum would have already been down the route of anti-nausea meds, if there are any that can be safely combined with what she’s on?

cloudiah
11 years ago

Argenti, can you use your “spot that fallacy” superpowers on this one? It’s like … he doesn’t exactly comprehend what words mean, but his spelling and grammar seem okay so I don’t think it’s an ESL thing.

katz
11 years ago

Why is the difference between “every person you’ve ever met” and “any person you’ve ever met” so difficult?

fathertime89
fathertime89
11 years ago

“Isn’t it funny, then how you’ve provided exactly none?”

Ok where’s your evidence that everyone who calls themself an MRA is a misogynist?

You done a poll or something scientific?

thebewilderness
11 years ago

Criminy! This is very sad trolling.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
11 years ago

Are we trying to get a troll to quote something non-assholish from an MRA?

*rolls on ground, wiping tears of laughter from eyes*

…And that’s my abs workout for the day!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Is there a troll training program we can sign him up for? I feel kind of bad for him.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

“And I’ve explained repeatedly that I don’t remember the names of those people I talked to on a forum.”

Then fuck off and stop making unverifiable claims on a forum dedicated to mocking misogyny – one with no shortage of material.

What’s your beef with this, anyway? What’s so precious about these “reasonable” MRAs? What have they actually got to offer that outweighs the sort of creatures David quotes, the ones who are called the senior figures of their alleged movement? (Given the type of movement it is, that just means they’re the biggest shits.) What are you so diddums upset about that a bunch of people are mocking the hateful? Has it occurred to you that if these reasonable MRAs exist, they are not the ones we’re mocking?

You really are stupid. Not that that’s a surprise. The trolls here are by definition stupid.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

The rule of the lower down the food chain someone is the more pretentious and prone to wanky diva behavior they’re likely to be tends to hold true in most parts of the music industry.

Oh, dear lard, YES. So much truth.

Come on fathertime/stonestupid, give us those counter examples, it’s easy, right?

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
11 years ago

Fatherwasteoftime, you’re what, 23 years old? Isn’t there something better you could be doing right now? Like, literally almost anything?

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
11 years ago

Seriously, the internet is full of free porn. Go! Shoo!

cloudiah
11 years ago

Her oncologist just switched her to a new anti-nausea medication so we’ll see. Also, I had this amusing conversation with her:
Mom: So… How do you smoke pot?
cloudiah: Well, there are various ways, or so I’ve heard. You can roll it like cigarettes, or use these little pipes, or use a bong, or … Why?
Mom: Just curious. [pause] And those stores, with the green cross on them — can anyone just walk in there and buy some?
cloudiah: I think so. They usually have someone there or nearby who can write you a prescription. Why?
Mom: Just wondering.
cloudiah: Do you want to try some?
Mom: Oh, I don’t think I could do that!
cloudiah: I can get you some.
Mom: I wouldn’t want you to get arrested!
cloudiah: Mom, I won’t get arrested. Do you want to try smoking it, because you know you can also eat it.
Mom: You can eat it?
cloudiah: My friend A. buys pot butter and makes cookies with it, for her joint pain.
Mom: What kind of cookies?

This went on for a while, but my mother now has a big freezer bag full of very special cookies so we’re going to see if we can get her the munchies.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

I love it when these little twits throw tantrums to show how reasonable they are.

cloudiah
11 years ago

For the record, by “very special cookies” I mean cookies that contain absolutely no illegal substances. Oatmeal. That’s what I mean.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

cloudiah – cool! Be great if the (ahem) special cookies help her.

fathertime89
fathertime89
11 years ago

“Has it occurred to you that if these reasonable MRAs exist, they are not the ones we’re mocking?”

Yeah how could I possibly believe that when people say all MRA’s are evil they actually mean all MRA’s.

You can’t possibly be this fucking stupid.

Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Cassandra– more Discworld! Eventually, eventually!

cloudiah — legend pizza perhaps? And I’ve been coaxed into watching some Reaper thing on BBC, if fathertime is still around when it’s over, I’ll give him a full game of Spot That Fallacy!

For the moment he’s definitely got some shifting the burden of proof going on with ow only a few counter examples are needed, but we need to go find them for him.

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