Today is an auspicious day. For the Men’s Rights Subreddit, which we often write about here on Man Boobz, has won the prestigious World’s Greatest Shitlord Award. Oh, sorry, I mean it won the Subreddit of the Day award on Reddit. Which is, in this case, pretty much the same thing.
Here are some highlights from the official announcement , which I am totally not making up. No, really, you can go look. Someone – that being XavierMendel, one of the mods of r/subredditoftheday — actually wrote these things. And meant them. I AM NOT BEING SARCASTIC THIS IS REAL HOLY SHIT.
The topic at hand today takes a generous turn from our amusing and lighthearted articles of the month. On this, the last day of January, we look at something a bit more worthy to be called an article. /r/MensRights comes up a lot across reddit and, indeed, across the world as being one of the few centers for men’s help. It’s often attacked, and is always the center of one controversy or the other. My questions reflect that. MensRights is, undoubtedly, the home of great activists.
Again. I am not making this up.
There were some people close to me that suggested I not run this article. That the repercussions of doing so would be unreasonably bad. Well, here you go, people. This is my way of saying that a good reporter doesn’t care. A good reporter reports. It’s not in my job to care about consequences.
I’m not sure that Mr. Mendel quite understands the difference between “reporting” and “asskissing.”
/r/MensRights. Never in our society could the uninitiated imagine such a place. A place where feminism is questioned, and our culture is deconstructed to find what it’s really up to.
Hahaha, what? I was not aware that feminism wasn’t ever questioned on the internet, or anywhere else in “our society.” I mean, it’s not like I run a blog that features nearly 500 posts detailing people attacking feminism on the internet, most of them nastily and ignorantly and sometimes using the word “cunt,” and the vast majority of them not on Reddit. And it’s not like this only barely scratches the surface of the subject.
/r/MensRights is one of the last fortifications of free thought to exist on Reddit.
Yeah, that’s why I was banned – not for trolling or harassing or calling anyone names, but for politely if persistently disagreeing with the denizens until then-moderator ignatiusloyola threw a fit.
“Surely you jest,” one might tell me, “when you mean they’re alone in this regard?” No, hypothetical 19th century British gentleman, I do not. I truly mean it when I say that. What other subreddit openly questions feminism? None spring to mind, and I make it my duty to catalog various subreddits. Most end up banned or run down within a month. Only /r/MensRights remains.
Reddit: Bastion of Internet Feminism.
Nobody can say for sure whether or not they’re correct in any single regard. It’s certain that, due to the laws of probability, they’re not correct in every regard. However, it’s also certain that they’re correct in most of them. Occasionally a wackjob or two will suggest that feminism is behind Cinnamon Toast Crunch (The taste you can see!™). The accuser latches onto those wackjobs to denounce the whole movement.
Yeah, it’s not as if comments suggesting that a man allegedly wronged in divorce court should turn to murder got literally dozens of upvotes in r/mensrights, or anything.
Oh wait, they did.
Yeah, it’s not as if Men’s Rights Redditors gave literally hundreds of upvotes to a post about a t-shirt suggesting that men could be convicted of rape simply for being in a room alone with a woman.
Oh wait, they did.
It’s not as if Men’s Rights Redditors regularly give dozens if not hundreds of upvotes to posts from unhinged hate sites like A Voice for Men or Angry Harry,or fall all over themselves praising an internet-famous female MRA who thinks that many abused women “demand” their abuse.
It’s not as if they think “spermjacking” is a real thing in the world that should make all men think twice about ejaculating in the general vicinity of women.
It’s not like … oh, you can find many, many more examples for yourself.
After claiming that “people have died” after being called misogynists, while “nobody ever dies after being called a misandrist,” Mr. Mendel winds up his speech with this stirring conclusion:
I support the struggles of people who are in bad positions. I respect it, in a way, for I have also seen great struggle. My struggle is not over, nor will it end until my death. For I struggle with something that will not go away through legislation or social change. The Men’s Rights Movement, however, struggles with something very changeable. Very malleable, able to be fixed within a generation if so desired. So I will support them, for they have a fighting chance. …
/r/MensRights is controversial for a reason. In the same sense as Jews of the 1890s, Irish of the 1850s, Hispanics of the 1350s, and many more. Each generation has their controversial improvement in society. We’ve gotten off easy so far, but we have to make it happen eventually. As far back as anyone living can remember, the table has been imbalanced in one way or another, favoring men or women. It’s time the table stays level for once. We need equality.
And that’s what /r/MensRights is trying to do.
Oy yoy yoy. There’s so much ridiculousness to unpack there that it makes me tired. I think I’ll go take a nap.
Mr. Mendel followed his stirring introduction with some questions for the denizens of r/mensrights. And there was some discussion. I can’t even. Not right now. I’ll get to all that in a future post.
In the meantime, Skepchick’s Rebecca Watson – who has been on the receiving end of r/menrights’ heroic activism more than once — has her own reaction to the Men’s Rights is the Subreddit of the Day announcement.
Heheh definitely not Indian, he’s from Brittany. 🙂 Maybe I should try some at an Indian cafe sometime. You’re right, it wasn’t horrible by any means, just hot milk with the barest bit of flavour. I’ll stick to his coffee and hot chocolate: they’re really good. Every time he comes back from his annual holiday (when the cafe’s closed for three weeks) his regulars moan about having had to drink inferior coffee all that time. 😀
Blessed be the indie coffee shops, for without them we would have to drink Starbucks.
Trudat!
Though mercifully Starbucks are rare here. They were never as ubiquitous as in the US, and a good few of them closed down a couple of years back. There’s only one that I know of in the CBD.
Now if you ever come here, San Churro’s chocolate shops are a must-see.Spanish sipping chocolate, it’s to die for. Even more so when it’s the iced version. Their line is that chocolate will save your soul, and they don’t have opening hours, they have hours of worship.
Ooh, I should ask my cousin in Perth if they have those there.
They do! I just looked. 🙂
http://perthfoodjournal.com/divine-treats-chocolateria-san-churros-perth-area-w-a/
Vegan former cheese expert here.
*sits in corner sulking and rubbing tummy*
Stupid ethics. *grumbles*
@The Kittehs’
That is a lot of chocolate! Very yummy sounding and making me hungry. Now I might have to dip into our supply of El Diablo (“a cinnamon chocolate flavor, heavily laced with cayenne pepper”) ice cream from JP Licks as an appetizer to our dinner. 🙂
http://www.jplicks.com/about_us.html
And I just found out they have a Frozen Hot Chocolate with Mini Marshmallows flavor for February so I have an incentive to finish off our January flavors more quickly!
Fresh cheeses are wonderful, especially paneer, but you can’t grate most of them very easily so their uses are a bit limited.
nat, you’ll be glad to know I’m going to try to make your faux cheesy popcorn tomorrow. At least, I think that was you. I have a terrible memory.
*has a MIGHTY NEED to move to New Zealand*
@cloudiah
It wasn’t me, but does the recipe call for nutritional yeast? Because that is absolutely wonderful on popcorn and is also, if you can eat cheese, delicious in addition to cheese in things like mac and cheese.
“Yeah, that’s why I was banned – not for trolling or harassing or calling anyone names, but for politely if persistently disagreeing with the denizens until then-moderator ignatiusloyola threw a fit.”
You run a website where you cherry pick the worst of MRA’s to paint them all as assholes, and you are surprised that they don’t want you there?
Holy shit I have never seen such a big sense of entitlement before.
Think carefully before you move to New Zealand…
“Yeah, that’s why I was banned – not for trolling or harassing or calling anyone names, but for politely if persistently disagreeing with the denizens until then-moderator ignatiusloyola threw a fit.”
You run a website that cherry picks the worst of MRA internet commenters to paint them as jerks and you are surprised that they don’t want you around?
New troll doesn’t seem to understand how the icons work. Or anything else, really.
🙁 Poor birds. And poor kitties, I’ve rarely encountered cats that liked being cooped up all day.
I guess I’ll just have to look for places that do Spanish chocolate round here then.
Not sure if this guy can’t tell when he’s posted, or if he’s trying to pretend to be two people.
I saw that business mentioned in the paper here, katz. Notice how whenever someone (always seems to be a man) calls for getting rid of cats for environmental reasons, they have to phrase it in such a blamey,anthropomorphic way? ““That little ball of fluff you own is a natural born killer,” makes it sound like cats just go out saying “I am going to wipe out an endangered species today, mwahahahaha!” They’re animals. They’re carnivores. They do what is natural for them to do. But humans, the ones who introduced them in the first place, talk as if they’re morally culpable. I sometimes wonder if this sort of thing is as much about hating cats as it is about (rightful) concern for native species.
“It’s not as if Men’s Rights Redditors regularly give dozens if not hundreds of upvotes to posts from unhinged hate sites like A Voice for Men or Angry Harry,or fall all over themselves praising an internet-famous female MRA who thinks that many abused women “demand” their abuse.”
That’s guilt by association. You can’t just pretend that because they said something stupid EVERYTHING they say will equally as stupid.
On Rockidol and fathertime89: Terrible minds think alike or someone didn’t read the comments policy?
🙂
Although, since expecting them to read and understand the posts is too much to ask (as they amply demonstrate in their comments), perhaps I should give them credit for reading the comment policy and just not understanding.
CWS, indoor cats can be perfectly happy.
CWS – the Spanish chocolate chain is here in Australia, I don’t know if they have it in NZ. Come visit us in Melbourne!
With cats living indoors, it depends on how much room you have, how much attention you can give ’em and how young they got accustomed to it. I keep my two indoors all the time, more for their own safety than anything else (and I’ve never been confident that Mads would come in when called).
Third comment by the same handle as the second, so probably couldn’t figure out how commenting worked (rather than trying to sock).
Mr C told me about the proposed cat ban the other day. The guy behind it does sound a bit suspiciously passionate in his attempts to make cat owners see that they all own a Greebo.
“It’s not as if they think “spermjacking” is a real thing in the world”
It has happened, they even have links to it. Here it took me less than 10 seconds just by searching sperm on the subreddit.
http://www.mommyish.com/2011/11/23/woman-steals-ex-boyfriends-sperm-has-twins-sues-for-child-support-836/