Today is an auspicious day. For the Men’s Rights Subreddit, which we often write about here on Man Boobz, has won the prestigious World’s Greatest Shitlord Award. Oh, sorry, I mean it won the Subreddit of the Day award on Reddit. Which is, in this case, pretty much the same thing.
Here are some highlights from the official announcement , which I am totally not making up. No, really, you can go look. Someone – that being XavierMendel, one of the mods of r/subredditoftheday — actually wrote these things. And meant them. I AM NOT BEING SARCASTIC THIS IS REAL HOLY SHIT.
The topic at hand today takes a generous turn from our amusing and lighthearted articles of the month. On this, the last day of January, we look at something a bit more worthy to be called an article. /r/MensRights comes up a lot across reddit and, indeed, across the world as being one of the few centers for men’s help. It’s often attacked, and is always the center of one controversy or the other. My questions reflect that. MensRights is, undoubtedly, the home of great activists.
Again. I am not making this up.
There were some people close to me that suggested I not run this article. That the repercussions of doing so would be unreasonably bad. Well, here you go, people. This is my way of saying that a good reporter doesn’t care. A good reporter reports. It’s not in my job to care about consequences.
I’m not sure that Mr. Mendel quite understands the difference between “reporting” and “asskissing.”
/r/MensRights. Never in our society could the uninitiated imagine such a place. A place where feminism is questioned, and our culture is deconstructed to find what it’s really up to.
Hahaha, what? I was not aware that feminism wasn’t ever questioned on the internet, or anywhere else in “our society.” I mean, it’s not like I run a blog that features nearly 500 posts detailing people attacking feminism on the internet, most of them nastily and ignorantly and sometimes using the word “cunt,” and the vast majority of them not on Reddit. And it’s not like this only barely scratches the surface of the subject.
/r/MensRights is one of the last fortifications of free thought to exist on Reddit.
Yeah, that’s why I was banned – not for trolling or harassing or calling anyone names, but for politely if persistently disagreeing with the denizens until then-moderator ignatiusloyola threw a fit.
“Surely you jest,” one might tell me, “when you mean they’re alone in this regard?” No, hypothetical 19th century British gentleman, I do not. I truly mean it when I say that. What other subreddit openly questions feminism? None spring to mind, and I make it my duty to catalog various subreddits. Most end up banned or run down within a month. Only /r/MensRights remains.
Reddit: Bastion of Internet Feminism.
Nobody can say for sure whether or not they’re correct in any single regard. It’s certain that, due to the laws of probability, they’re not correct in every regard. However, it’s also certain that they’re correct in most of them. Occasionally a wackjob or two will suggest that feminism is behind Cinnamon Toast Crunch (The taste you can see!™). The accuser latches onto those wackjobs to denounce the whole movement.
Yeah, it’s not as if comments suggesting that a man allegedly wronged in divorce court should turn to murder got literally dozens of upvotes in r/mensrights, or anything.
Oh wait, they did.
Yeah, it’s not as if Men’s Rights Redditors gave literally hundreds of upvotes to a post about a t-shirt suggesting that men could be convicted of rape simply for being in a room alone with a woman.
Oh wait, they did.
It’s not as if Men’s Rights Redditors regularly give dozens if not hundreds of upvotes to posts from unhinged hate sites like A Voice for Men or Angry Harry,or fall all over themselves praising an internet-famous female MRA who thinks that many abused women “demand” their abuse.
It’s not as if they think “spermjacking” is a real thing in the world that should make all men think twice about ejaculating in the general vicinity of women.
It’s not like … oh, you can find many, many more examples for yourself.
After claiming that “people have died” after being called misogynists, while “nobody ever dies after being called a misandrist,” Mr. Mendel winds up his speech with this stirring conclusion:
I support the struggles of people who are in bad positions. I respect it, in a way, for I have also seen great struggle. My struggle is not over, nor will it end until my death. For I struggle with something that will not go away through legislation or social change. The Men’s Rights Movement, however, struggles with something very changeable. Very malleable, able to be fixed within a generation if so desired. So I will support them, for they have a fighting chance. …
/r/MensRights is controversial for a reason. In the same sense as Jews of the 1890s, Irish of the 1850s, Hispanics of the 1350s, and many more. Each generation has their controversial improvement in society. We’ve gotten off easy so far, but we have to make it happen eventually. As far back as anyone living can remember, the table has been imbalanced in one way or another, favoring men or women. It’s time the table stays level for once. We need equality.
And that’s what /r/MensRights is trying to do.
Oy yoy yoy. There’s so much ridiculousness to unpack there that it makes me tired. I think I’ll go take a nap.
Mr. Mendel followed his stirring introduction with some questions for the denizens of r/mensrights. And there was some discussion. I can’t even. Not right now. I’ll get to all that in a future post.
In the meantime, Skepchick’s Rebecca Watson – who has been on the receiving end of r/menrights’ heroic activism more than once — has her own reaction to the Men’s Rights is the Subreddit of the Day announcement.
MRA (and MRA buttkisser’s) guide to historical research
Get a notepad
Go to library
Hold notepad near butt
Fill with assdata.
(Instead of MRA I nearly wrote Mara as in the giant penis from SMT what.)
XavierMendel had never heard of the SPLC, but now that he’s aware of them he’s not so sure he approves of them.
RE: katz
Ha! And yeah, I’m also kinda bemused by the “well, we have no idea if they’re right or not, but by the rule of odds, they must be right about SOMETHING.”
I believe this is what people mean by the old adage, “Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.”
Weren’t we just talking about MRAs getting their dicks sucked on another thread? Why do we need a demonstration of it, too?
Except that there’s no time of day at which “most rape accusations are false” is correct.
Hi DLColvin. I just looked at your blog. You mention several times that you blunder in without researching and make mistakes. You appear to think there is nothing for you to learn from this. There is. Research first, or for the artsy fartsy among us KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE.
If you learn this you will not continue to make the same mistake over and over.
Bagelsan! At least warn people before planting an image like that in their brains.
Cloudiah: Ah, self-reinforcing biases! r/mensrights is a bastion of activism, therefore anything that criticizes them is suspect. I’m sure he also thinks global warming is a hoax and therefore scientists are not to be trusted.
I’m not sure anyone could be this dim, but is he perhaps referring to the Spanish conquering South America in the 1530s and just… twisting… everything?
No one could be that dim, right?
All I can think about with all the examples of oppressed groups is just how shitty it was to be a member of those groups AND female.
Men! Just as oppressed as women were before we got the right to vote! Misandry!!
I don’t think there is any rule about how dim it can be when one is wearing ones ass for a hat.
RE: thenatfantastic
…oh sweet motherhumping Jesus. I hope you’re wrong. Just because… >:|
RE: Bagelsan
Hey, I was just talking about the Marlboro man. He wasn’t an MRA! He was a mascot!
From Mendel:
“I can paint with false colors, too! What’s more legitimate: A universally distrusted “non-profit” that dedicates its time to insult opposing groups, or a group of beloved activists discussing matters relating to an international movement?”
Beloved activists? Seriously, how incapable of criticism do you have to be to write this shit?
Yes please. (Such imagery is actually kind of triggering for me. I know I’m looking at misogynist bullshit when I come here but sometimes stuff still shocks me.)
There’s just so much wrongness in the OP I don’t know where to start.
@hellkell And “international movement?!!??!?”
Sucker’s bet?
In fairness, Men’s Rights Assholes hail from a number of different countries. We’ve met Filipino and Croatian trolls (not to mention “French”).
But I’m not sure five dudes from different countries equals an “international movement.”
Yes please. (Such imagery is actually kind of triggering for me.
Damn, sorry! Here are some Border Collie puppies squeaking:
It’s cool. Shit happens.
Puppies :3
Are those border collies in their natural homeland? Because it looks cold and grey and windy enough. Not raining though – must be July.
Uh, I’m not a fan of math in general, but I’m pretty sure probability does’t work that way.
Also
Funny how easy it is to change things when you aren’t actually an oppressed group.
Cassandra – a blazing hot Scottish summer. 😉
Not that I can talk, last time I was there it was as upsy-downsy weather as any Melbourne turns on.
@ Kittehs
A friend of mine who still lives in Scotland once complained that it was “roasting” and she was too hot to cope with outdoor events like garden parties. It was in the upper 70s.
Well, Wikipedia says the term “Hispanic” is used to refer to countries and ethnic groups that have historic ties to Spain and Portugal, including Spain and Portugal.
1350 is too early for the conquistadors, and too late for Muslim rule over most of the Iberian peninsula.
I think he got carried away with his “xx50s” pattern.
Someone mentioned Hispanics and the 50s and now I’ve got West Side Story playing in my head.