I’ve found my new favorite Men’s Rights Redditor. Brand new, really, as gonemgtow’s account is only two days old. This comment, his very first, is so loopy — yet also so true to manosphere ideology — that I can’t help but suspect that it’s an inspired hoax — and possibly even the work of one of the old banned trolls here. (I have one in particular in mind.) If not, wow.
I’ve taken the liberty of breaking his wall o’ text into readable paragraphs. Enjoy. Oh, if you’re at work, don’t read this out loud, as it starts off with a bang, NSFW-wise.
Dude, three girlfriends made me fuck them when they had another man’s cum deep in them and there was an unmistakable cum frothing going around the girth of my penis. Confronted with it they told me a bunch of lies, I know cum when I see it for fuck’s sake, and got hysterical that I could even suggest such a thing. I mean it wasn’t just paranoia. I stalked them and found out.
I go to the gym and lift, play poker and generally engage in alpha male activities, but still get cheated on. Right before I went MGTOW I was doing one night stands and every single one I found out were in a relationship or even married. So they basically forced me to wrong a lot of other men the way I’d been wronged myself. I could feel dirtied by the moral corruption of sluts. Basically made me swear off women.
What gets me is that there’s probably a man out there raising my son or daughter and the slut knows and is snickering and laughing at the con she has pulled. The percentage of women doing these things is not negligible and it’s sick and deplorable. Made me cry too when my illusions about women were shattered.
Makes sense when you think about the erotic fiction they read. Go watch the sales numbers. It’s stories about adultery and rape. A lot of stuff you couldn’t think up in your wildest dreams when it comes to moral corruption.
Just stop. Don’t even masturbate. It’s a highway drug to women so to speak. A moment of weakness is all it takes and you’re pounding a slut from behind and actually she’s in a relationship or even married. It’s better to just take the moral high ground.
All religion kinda makes sense to me now, when it comes to women. Ancient men must have know about the problems of letting women run rampant and wrote up some rules to curb the behavior. It was probably easier to just say it was an all powerful being’s will than to explain the true nature of women and why the rules must be followed.
Now that atheism is taking hold, which is rationality, we’re being forced into a state of moral decay as we’ve lost justification to uphold ancient tradition curtailing women’s sexuality and need to go get as much cum as possible from as many men as possible.
Time to take the penis away and go our own way. Cut the flow at the source so to speak and starve them until they realize this feminism shit is bullshit and that we need to basically have some say in how they behave. That their behavior is wrong. Just saying what everyone knows deep down inside. Fuck political correctness.
Gonemgtow didn’t get much love in r/mensrights for this gem, earning 6 downvotes for all his efforts. He should probably head over to MGTOWforums.com, where he’d fit in just fine.
So what do you say when you want to describe someone who is neurotypical, but whose ideas are so not sensible (eg people who do ridiculously dangerous things for fun) or so unlikely/ridiculous (eg these people who think every woman is a spermjacker waiting for an oppurtunity) or are so spontaneous and damn the consequences (eg qutting their job and sailing around the world) that they are worth commenting on?
I definitely have a habit of saying crazy but I would really like to get out of it. I would like a good word, or words to replace it – preferably ones that are a bit more descriptive even. I don’t want to accidently replace it with another world of the same provenance.
Ideas?
“I definitely have a habit of saying crazy but I would really like to get out of it. I would like a good word, or words to replace it – preferably ones that are a bit more descriptive even. I don’t want to accidently replace it with another world of the same provenance.”
I’m sure “dumbass” would fit in some cases.
I call fake.
And I’m pretty sure anyone who refers to oneself as an alpha or engaging in alpha activities is probably the exact opposite and/or is a douche
Absurd, outrageous, senseless, ridiculous, impulsive (idk that that one really conveys the “not in a good way”) — fucking stupid always works!
For more precise terms, in order of your examples — dangerously thrill seeking, obsessed with the improbable, impulsively risk taking.
Pecunium — we need a wordsmith!
Dumbass is certainly my nickname for my brother! Asshole is also always an option, and particularly suitable if their antics put others at risk.
Okay, I may still be on p.1 of the comments, but I have full access to the Leeker and Carlozzi study on emotional and sexual infidelity. First point to note is that they’re not just talking about sexual infidelity here.
The study is looking strictly at emotional responses (distress, anger, anxiety, etc) to hypothetic instances of emotional or sexual infidelity, it is not trying to estimate the level of infidelity itself.
The population is not generalizable. All subjects were university students aged 18 years or older who indicate they were in a committed romantic relationship at the time of their participation in the study. A snowball method was used to increase the number of gay and lesbian participants. There were 296 participants, of whom 114 (39%) were heterosexual females. The sexual orientation of subjects was given as either homosexual or heterosexual.
Data was collected using questionnaires, using an online survey method. Besides a demographic questionnaire, participants also answered the Infidelity Expectations Questionnaire, Sternberg’s Triangular Love Scale, and an adapted Relationship Dilemmas Questionnaire. It appears that the ordering of these three latter questionnaires was counterbalanced so questionnaire ordering would not affect the results.
Predictors of emotional reactions to sexual and emotional infidelity: Multiple regressions were used to analyse the data, and no stepwise methods were used (hoorah!). There was some summing of scores from Likert scale items to generate the dependent variables, and I see no Cronbach’s alpha analysis of whether this was appropriate. As I am used to seeing in the literature, there is no commentary on the residuals results from the regressions. I remain disappointed that only statisticians seem to do this test of the appropriateness of the regression method on the data. As with most social science research, the R^2 are quite low, all below .30.
Effects of sex (i.e. male or female) and sexual orientation on emotional reactions to infidelity: I don’t think they should have used an ANOVA method here with post hoc correction for the failure to meet the requirement for homogeneity of variances.
Basically, they got some findings, which account for a small amount of the variance, in people’s emotional responses to emotional and sexual infidelity. Sexual infidelity scenarios provided more emotion in these participants more than emotional infidelity, and women and heterosexuals provided stronger emotional responses than men and homosexuals. However, because I don’t know the size of the dependent variable scales that were used, I can’t interpret whether the results have practical significance or are just statistically significant.
But the study data is unrelated to infidelity estimates, and the results will be not generalizable to the overall, relationship-forming population. They do cite two sources of statistics on the rate of infidelity, and these are:
Smith (2006) GSS Topic Report #25 from the National Opinion Research Centre in Chicago
Wiederman (1997) Extramarital sex: Prevalence and correlates in a national survey. The Journal of Sex Research 34(2) 167-174.
Going back to reading the other comments.
More examples with explains — http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/05/17/guest-post-from-rmj-ableist-word-profile-crazy/
Coming to the naming convention discussion, I think wilfully ignorant is an accurate term. Because with all the good information around and freely available, it takes a lot of willpower to stay an MRA.
My face at Kiwi Girl’s post — ō.Ō
DO. NOT. WANT! I knew it was going to be bad the moment snowballing came up but holy shit is that mess just mathematically painful. And seriously, heterosexual or homosexual? I’d have had to withdraw at that point, as would’ve my not-an-ex (not that having to check gender = bio-gender would’ve won points, but we’ve both been given ō.Ō face for trying to design studies with gender as a non-binary question *sigh*)
Best. Research. Partner. Ever. Though 🙂
@Kiwi Girl
Cool. All I had was date and journal so I guessed. (The date seems off anyway, but everyone was citing the same numbers… and now I have no idea where they came from.) Thanks for checking though.
@Some girl, no worries, it made me feel useful 🙂
Kitty update: it’s not cancer (yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) It is probably asthma – could be allergic bronchitis – but as the treatment regime is the same regardless, the vet says he should live a long life with his condition managed. He’s not enjoying having half a tab of Vibravet shoved into his mouth twice a day (he tastes it in his food, I did try hiding it), but I’m associating that process with also being given a part tin of Fancy Feast so he gets a treat each time. The other cats are also getting the wet food, because we can’t just give it to one cat.
The vet has ordered the feline aerosol chamber which won’t be that exact product, but very similar. He will be getting metred dosages of basically prednisone daily now. What’s even more awesome is that the vet said we don’t need to bring him in, to be taught how to use the device. That’s fantastic, as he’s pretty much now so traumatised about being put in the cat carry cage that I don’t want to inflict it on him until it’s absolutely necessary.
My appetite’s coming back, so the stress is almost gone. 🙂
According to television, women love yogurt and apparently MRAs love it too http://www.the-spearhead.com/2013/01/30/manbiotics/
For some reason, this was the funniest thing I half-read today.
Why can’t we all just bond over… yogurt?
Yay for not cancer! So happy that the kitty will be OK!
@Kiwi Girl
I’m so glad!
@Eric26
But yogurt is the official food of women!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMRDLCR8vAE
Kiwi Girl — w00t for kitty, give more me congratulatory head scratches from me?
Hi, DL Colvin! There’s a name for what you’re doing – you can google it. The search term you’re looking for is “projection”.
Give some congratulatory head scratches…
And a heartily fuck you auto correct!
@Kiwi girl – hugs and more internet hugs, that is SUCH good news!
@Kim – yeah, I have the same problem. Using “crazy” or “batshit” or “lunatic” is such an old habit, but it isn’t a good one. I even hesitate to say the kitties are “having a dement” when they’re going up the wall.
If only Man Boobz was famous, we could say someone’s an NWO.
How’s the weather up north now, btw? Is it easing? We just had a slam-dump of rain and hail here, a small but very intense storm. Not connected to the cyclones, though, it’s come from the south west.
@Argenti – that whole dissection in the book of a boy of about five or so making a toilet joke (he saw a rabbit that had some grass stuck to its backside and said “It eats through its arse!”) just made me wonder what the hell was going on in the writer’s head, not in Louis’s. Not that I’d expect much better of a Freudian (shudder).
@Catfish – “Might be TMI for some, so if you don’t want to read about the personal life of my vagina, please read no further.”
How could I not have read on after that introduction? 😀
Kitteh — re: batshit, etc — yeah, I only use them to refer to myself, because if I can’t laugh at myself wtf’s the point of this all again?
Re: Louis — 5!? I blame the former customs of kids being mini-adults for this, taking a chance to use a forbidden word is kind of wtf five year olds do! (Hell, I’m 27 and I still make the occasional toilet joke!)
But yes, Freud would call that anal explusive and make claims about impulsivity (and worse) when, dude, kids make potty jokes!
Argenti – yeah, that book trots out every damn Freudian cliche there is. Anal retentive, blah blah blah (and doesn’t she go to town with him being overall more attracted to men than women). Love and a sense of humour or wit or intellect or conscience don’t get a look-in. She hardly acknowledges (iirc) that the atmosphere at Henri’s court was extremely coarse by modern standards – hell, even by the standards of the time – and that a lot of people, Louis’s parents included, swore like troopers. It’s like she’s determined to paint his childhood as black as possible. That would be understandable, because there was stuff in it that got a bit of a side-eye even then, although Henri was looked on at the same time as being a very affectionate and lenient parent; but there’s a real streak of victim-blaming in the book. It’s like this child is to blame for being whipped every day from when he was eighteen months old.
Gad, I’m on a Rant Roll.
“It’s like this child is to blame for being whipped every day from when he was eighteen months old.”
My most polite response is “no wonder you side-eye your in laws” — my other responses might make them blush, I can swear with the best of ’em.
The “Penis Plunger” theory isn’t actually evidentially supported, although it sounds reasonable at face value.
You’d need to have sex with a dude pretty quickly after another one had ejaculated inside you for someone else’s semen to get on their penis. Even laying down, semen pours out. The vagina isn’t full of pockets for storage of the stuff.
I’m in molecular biology but I like to think I know the basic macro stuff. These MGTOW suggest otherwise. I need to take notes.
The interesting thing about the in-laws was getting it through my head that they’ve changed as much as he has. I was so used to thinking of them all (naturally!) as the people I’d learned about from history books. But that time is only a tiny fraction of the time they’ve lived. Louis’s ten times the age he was when he passed over. People aren’t static, they grow and leave behind all the shitty stuff, and I feel sooooo different now about them from how I did for a long time. (Couldn’t abide his mother or his eldest son, for instance.) Thinking of them as they were then would be comparable to judging a forty-year-old by what they were like at four.
Though I’d still kick Dumas into orbit given half a chance. 😛
I just had an image of a vagina like inverted cargo pants. In khaki.