So when I was poking around on Roosh’s Return of Kings blog the other day I ran across a guest post from someone calling himself Samseau accusing feminists of using racism to exploit men – that is, of expertly manipulating men of different races to fight one another instead of standing firm against the evil feminists and their evil agenda.
The post, while purporting to be somehow “above” the issue of race, is a muddled mess full of “white men have it worst” nonsense like this:
[R]acial infighting between American men wouldn’t be so bad if it weren’t for the political consequences.
Women, if you haven’t noticed, do not fight with each other over racial conflicts. They might get angry over the past, but they are able to resolve all issues by agreeing on a scapegoat: the white man. Colored women will gladly forgive their white sisters, since, after all, it was the white man who oppressed women and minorities.
White men are the big, bad, evil masters, and as such, all females of different colors can agree to put aside their differences in order to bring the white man down.
Yes, he did indeed use the term “colored women.” Oh, but there’s more.
The election results show that decades of brainwashing young American boys has been an unqualified success. Rather than have boys be loyal to their gender, boys have instead been trained to be loyal to their race.
Little non-white boys at the tender age of 9 years are fed lies about how white male oppressors created their poor living conditions, while white boys are taught that they need to correct the injustices of their forefathers lest they be guilty with the indelible sin of white privilege. Female teachers use the appropriate shaming tactics on these young minds to imprint the intended desire for conflict.
All according to plan.
And more:
Men are pawns in the race game. Thus while American women feed themselves government largesse, jobs, university degrees, their husband’s money, and child support money, American men fight each other over table scraps.
But my favorite thing about this article is the little graph that Mr. Samseau made up to illustrate the REAL issues men face today.
Yep. Race is the least important issue, while “getting laid” is number one.
It’s a pretty revealing little chart, huh?
The comment section for the article – wade into this swamp at your own peril – is (predictably enough) filled with angry racists trying to explain why race really does matter. Others, meanwhile, seem upset that all this racism is getting in the way of the regular woman-bashing. Still others suggest that men of all races needed to understand the “root cause” of all our “multicultural problems.” That being … teh Jews.
My favorite comment of the bunch, though, has to be this, from Caliente, combining an astounding ignorance of history with some half-digested evo psych:
Btw the reason why there are practically no racist women is simple.
Males of mammals are territorial.
They naturally base they identity from bottom up: family,tribe,nation,race.And naturally react negative to males of different “tribe”.
Females at the same time are receptive to have sex with any males as long as they are alpha enough.
In 19 century whites fucked all the black women because they were alpha and they had recourses,just look at Brasil.Nowadays a feminist will be cheating on her white beta herbling with some black fitness coach because that is how her brain assumes alphaness.
Wow.
Glad we got that all settled!
Love that Ceiling Cat tee shirt! Though probably I should get this one. 😉
Kitteh – I have to see how I go first. They’re going to start having some Saturday outings to various places (like theme parks, shopping, movies etc), and all the participants are adults, so I’m just like ‘yay, i get to go on outings’. Hopefully it’s more like fun than work. I am completely ignorant at this stage.
Congrats from me as well, Kim.
Also: Demarq doesn’t seem to be a returning troll. Or at least his IP doesn’t match up with or resemble that of any previous trolls. He is annoying, though.
How about tsk two tut tut Fatrelle? Just stealing Steele tells or what?
Let us know how it goes, Kim! 🙂
So, these trolls really are just clones … it’s like a nastier take on the Dr Who ep about The Flesh.
Hmmmmmm.
And by “hmm,” I mean “I’m still pretty convinced that’s it’s Nomless but if there’s no proof of that I guess I should treat him like a brand new irritating gnat.”
“the Dr Who ep about The Flesh”
Not to derail to the Whoniverse, but I really think the flesh will be back. Too complex to be gone.
On (current) topic — congrats Kim!
I think they’ve finally figured out how to hide their locations.
When I was a graduate student, we had an undergrad research student who was really poor at reading social cues, etc, but we were a bunch of biology nerds so we accepted his oddity and moved on. When he came back the next summer, he started sending sexually explicit Facebook messages to one of the other undergrads in the lab. She was a little weirded out but we all dismissed it. Then a month later he started doing the same thing to another undergrad. We were concerned, so I took him aside and calmly explained to him that this is not something he should be doing and that not only was he upsetting the women of the lab, but he was potentially jeopardizing his future career in research/medicine if any of them decided to pursue a case against him.
After several of these conversations about how it wasn’t cool to sexually harass people and that writing “just joking” at the end doesn’t magically make it okay… he started sending me sexually harassing e-mails. I eventually went to my supervisor and he was given a dressing down and told he was not welcome back in the building. Being autistic is not a free pass to harassing people and it’s offensive to people with autism to imply that they would be awful to people because of their disability. I’ve volunteered with kids up to 18 years old with various disabilities for 6 years and never encountered anything like I did that summer. If you can legitimately not tell if someone is interested in your sexual advances or not, just bloody ask.
Is it time for the Oppression Olympics already? It’s only January!
Demarcq, the oppression you experience as a person with autism neither erases nor trumps racism and sexism, and attacking women and/or people of color will not insulate you from ableism. You can’t liberate yourself at our expense, and it’s shitty of you to try.
Welcome, Dagrabbit! Comment was awesome, and Socky’s response which made it clear he had utterly failed to comprehend it was hilarious.
Teach me to go off and take a nap and miss all the fun.
Fatrelle is definitely a returning troll, though he seems to have only made sporadic comments. He’s the guy who once left this charming comment here:
http://manboobz.com/2012/06/28/he-blogs-just-like-a-woman/comment-page-2/#comment-168027
I’ve got him on moderation.
It’s like the Feministe article points out – having autism, Asperger’s or any other non neurotypical condition doesn’t mean you can’t be an asshole, and it isn’t a free pass if you act like one.
I was just perusing NOW’s back file of press releases opposing autism research and favoring the jailing or institutionalization of people on the autism spectrum, and … No wait, none of that is real.
I thought that nym looked familiar, thanks David!
Right, I’m off shoe shopping … later, y’all!
Dagrabbit, you win everything with that comment.
That last quote just horrified me, (from caliente). I don’t know how someone could think that. Even with the most basic knowledge of american history, the fact that slavery not only allowed, but encouraged masters to abuse their slaves should be obvious. “Receptive” to sex? They had no fucking choice. Even reading diaries and letters of the time, which usually shied away from sex, makes it obvious. They knew.
“Alphas”? Sure, in that white masters had all the power, given to them by the law, to treat other human beings like play toys. But a decent person would realize that’s something horrifying, not something ideal or natural.
That chart really does say it all. I weep for MRM’s unloved love bones.
Urrrraaaaagh. That’s all I feel like saying about the racism and crap.
Also, markdown, you realize there are autistic folks among the crowd here, right? And other neuroatypical folks, like yours truly?
I ain’t going to do jack shit with you just because we’re both neuroatypical men. Because you’re a douche. I know plenty of other neuroatypical people to band together with who are not douches.
Did demarcq fuck off yet? ‘Cause the hits keep on comming:
“I love it how you people try to pigeonhole anyone who disagrees with your feminist agenda and then get butthurt when the same standard is applied to you.”
“You people”? Huh. Why come here to mix it up with us?
“…perhaps you should attend to your motherly duties instead of prattling on the internets.”
Oh, you prick.
“The 2nd wave of feminism tried to divide minority groups, particularly black Americans, by trying to recruit women of color into the womens lib movement; which would result in them turning against men of color making said men even more oppressed.”
Where are the citations on this? It’s hateful and ignorant for you to suggests non-white women who identify as feminists results in them turning against men who belong to their own ethnic group.
You’re a little shit stain, demarcq. Don’t let anyone tell you differently.
Have you noticed that no one here likes you much? How does that feel?
Poor traitorous Daveeeeed, so oppressed by the men he has betrayed.
It’s kinda telling that all of our trolls are so original, we mistake the new kids for the old ones.
Not only is Demarcq nearly indistinguishable from other trolls, he’s actually pretty weaksauce compared to them. I give him 0/10 points for creativity, 3/10 for slightly annoying. He could have gotten a 1/10 for creativity until he pulled out the tired old “but teh autistic menz!” thing.
I missed his earlier comment about being an autism activist. From his behaviour here, he’s either (1) an actual activist, but the type that the others are trying to manoeuvre into stamp licking or membership sub checking, basically anything that doesn’t involve people or (2) he’s lying (using the MRA definition of activism would also put him into the activism category). Belligerent activists only achieve their objectives when they have something the other party desperately wants. That’s why Big Oil can be belligerent. Autism support groups, not so much.
I don’t think these things because he says he’s autistic, I think these things because he is a horrible person.