So when I was poking around on Roosh’s Return of Kings blog the other day I ran across a guest post from someone calling himself Samseau accusing feminists of using racism to exploit men – that is, of expertly manipulating men of different races to fight one another instead of standing firm against the evil feminists and their evil agenda.
The post, while purporting to be somehow “above” the issue of race, is a muddled mess full of “white men have it worst” nonsense like this:
[R]acial infighting between American men wouldn’t be so bad if it weren’t for the political consequences.
Women, if you haven’t noticed, do not fight with each other over racial conflicts. They might get angry over the past, but they are able to resolve all issues by agreeing on a scapegoat: the white man. Colored women will gladly forgive their white sisters, since, after all, it was the white man who oppressed women and minorities.
White men are the big, bad, evil masters, and as such, all females of different colors can agree to put aside their differences in order to bring the white man down.
Yes, he did indeed use the term “colored women.” Oh, but there’s more.
The election results show that decades of brainwashing young American boys has been an unqualified success. Rather than have boys be loyal to their gender, boys have instead been trained to be loyal to their race.
Little non-white boys at the tender age of 9 years are fed lies about how white male oppressors created their poor living conditions, while white boys are taught that they need to correct the injustices of their forefathers lest they be guilty with the indelible sin of white privilege. Female teachers use the appropriate shaming tactics on these young minds to imprint the intended desire for conflict.
All according to plan.
And more:
Men are pawns in the race game. Thus while American women feed themselves government largesse, jobs, university degrees, their husband’s money, and child support money, American men fight each other over table scraps.
But my favorite thing about this article is the little graph that Mr. Samseau made up to illustrate the REAL issues men face today.
Yep. Race is the least important issue, while “getting laid” is number one.
It’s a pretty revealing little chart, huh?
The comment section for the article – wade into this swamp at your own peril – is (predictably enough) filled with angry racists trying to explain why race really does matter. Others, meanwhile, seem upset that all this racism is getting in the way of the regular woman-bashing. Still others suggest that men of all races needed to understand the “root cause” of all our “multicultural problems.” That being … teh Jews.
My favorite comment of the bunch, though, has to be this, from Caliente, combining an astounding ignorance of history with some half-digested evo psych:
Btw the reason why there are practically no racist women is simple.
Males of mammals are territorial.
They naturally base they identity from bottom up: family,tribe,nation,race.And naturally react negative to males of different “tribe”.
Females at the same time are receptive to have sex with any males as long as they are alpha enough.
In 19 century whites fucked all the black women because they were alpha and they had recourses,just look at Brasil.Nowadays a feminist will be cheating on her white beta herbling with some black fitness coach because that is how her brain assumes alphaness.
Wow.
Glad we got that all settled!
As a white guy, I often find I have less in common with other white guys than I do with cats.
This explains many things.
@Joanna – those nerd licenses should include demerits for
f) combining the special-snowflakism with talking in nerd/fan jargon to everyone they meet, on the conflicting assumption that the whole world shares/gives a damn about their fandom.
@Kitteh’s: that could be a subcategory of b)
f) combining the special-snowflakism with talking in nerd/fan jargon to everyone they meet, on the conflicting assumption that the whole world shares/gives a damn about their fandom
Can a sub-category of this be trying to speak anime Japanese at all Asian-looking people? Or does that get it’s own GTFO category?
Works for me! 🙂
Grumbles and his picking lines from Star Wars and changing them prompted it. Hello, not everyone even on this board knows those references. Or cares.
I just gotta ask – what the hell is a “herbling”??????
I just gotta ask – what the hell is a “herbling”??????
Kind of Pokemon?
I seriously just pointed my finger at the chart and laughed for like five minutes straight.
Evidently “alpha” means “literally owning other human beings” to this cretin. And I get the feeling he’s been reading too many Kyle Onstott books.
Herbling … is that meant to refer to the “herbivore” people in Japan? Though it sounds like an odd diminutive of Herbert, too.
Off topic but does anyone else see the “Babies in high heels and string bikinis” ad on this page?
Herbling: earthling + chlorophyll?
I think herbling is an attempt to appropriate the herbivore guys in Japan for MRA use (again). On the plus side, they seem to have finally figured out that those guys are not on their side. On the down side, they now seem to think that “herbivore” means “married”.
Given how badly they mangle their own mother tongues it’s not exactly a surprise that they have some problems understanding terms originating in countries where English is not the primary language.
Herbling is an MRA term which proves how the movement is misandrist.
They use it to refer to nameless men whom MRAs see as going through life as shapeless sad-sack betas. Totally not insulting to men generally.
They’re showing that same-old, same-old confusion about their attitude toward betas. On the surface, they’re “ordinary NiceGuys(TM) like me who get treated so badly by hypergamous bitches chasing all those black millionaire fitness instructors,” but at the same time, they’re seething with contempt for these so-called “herblings”.
Must be fun being an MRA who hates everyone in the world including himself.
It sounds like a German term of endearment. “My little herbling.”
Can’t… breathe..
considering their baffling usage of existing slang, I’m guessing he’s trying to be cute with the term herb
I’m getting the impression that “herb” is supposed to mean “beta who is happy that way” (i.e., who is not trying to learn “Game” to shed his tragic beta-ness). I figure it’s originally inspired by the Japanese “herbivore” term, but has taken on its own life since then, since it’s obviously different – for example, PUAs acknowledge that many “herbs” are in relationships or even married, while the Japanese herbivore concept is all about choosing to eschew dating and relationships. Of course, PUAs reassure themselves that their worldview is still correct by assuming that the women who date/marry these “herbs” must surely be old or otherwise undesirable, and only settle for the “herbs” because they cannot get “alphas”. Or, if presented with evidence of a “herb” married to a woman who lives up to PUA hotness standards, she’s clearly only using him for a meal ticket and is secretly cuckolding him with all the “alphas”. Because you gotta explain away the phenomenon of people finding happiness without PUA shitbaggery *somehow*.
Seriously, I’ve seen PUAs posting and then mocking pictures of “herbs” and their partners/kids (“look at him, she’s making him carry the baby and he totally goes along with that, omg she’s totally emasculated him, and he even looks *happy*, the poor deluded fool, while she probably despises him and fucks her personal trainer”), and I can’t shake the feeling that these are desperate attempts at suppressing the raging envy over seeing other people in happy relationships.
Shadow – there’s irony. The definitions of herb in Urban Dictionary sound like MRAs … losers, bullshitters …
cloudiah – or a French one, mon petit chou (my little cabbage).
“What it implies is that they mean is that solidarity with other Chicanos(and I mean the plural for the chicano people since the masculine plural is default in the spanish language…..OMG sexism!!!)matters more to them than solidarity with women as a whole.”
In your previous comment you had written it as the singular Chicano, I’m a stickler for doing shit properly when it comes to my native language and it’s not like language is this perfect and unproblematic thing.
Gloria Anzaldua wrote about how she’ll criticize Mexican and Chican@ culture for their attitudes towards women but that there still remains a solidarity in that she’ll stick up for her culture when the criticism is coming from outside. So it’s not about picking a side.
“Personally, I as a white guy have found that I have more in common with men of color than I do with white women. And many white women have told me that they too can relate better to women of color then they can to white men.”
That’s cool and all but I’m not a fan of assuming I have more in common with some people because we share the same sexual organs. Personally in my experience, this sort of talk always seems to come from white guys, hm I wonder if there’s anything going on there.
Also I’m echoing the fuck off’s.
Ninja’ed while composing excessively long post. Hopefully that’ll teach me to be more concise… if only.
I like my definition better.
You are an asshole, Demarcq. Fuck off.
You can’t even do sympathy without coming off like a mansplaining dickbiscuit. Please, go the fuck away, asswaffle.
Cool story, bro.
Neurite –
QFT with a large dose of DING DING DING we have a winner!
I really don’t think any of these guys are capable of simple happiness, let alone love.
It could also be a reflection of the idea that herbs are chick food. and manly men just want to eat giant slabs of unseasoned, burned meat.