So when I was poking around on Roosh’s Return of Kings blog the other day I ran across a guest post from someone calling himself Samseau accusing feminists of using racism to exploit men – that is, of expertly manipulating men of different races to fight one another instead of standing firm against the evil feminists and their evil agenda.
The post, while purporting to be somehow “above” the issue of race, is a muddled mess full of “white men have it worst” nonsense like this:
[R]acial infighting between American men wouldn’t be so bad if it weren’t for the political consequences.
Women, if you haven’t noticed, do not fight with each other over racial conflicts. They might get angry over the past, but they are able to resolve all issues by agreeing on a scapegoat: the white man. Colored women will gladly forgive their white sisters, since, after all, it was the white man who oppressed women and minorities.
White men are the big, bad, evil masters, and as such, all females of different colors can agree to put aside their differences in order to bring the white man down.
Yes, he did indeed use the term “colored women.” Oh, but there’s more.
The election results show that decades of brainwashing young American boys has been an unqualified success. Rather than have boys be loyal to their gender, boys have instead been trained to be loyal to their race.
Little non-white boys at the tender age of 9 years are fed lies about how white male oppressors created their poor living conditions, while white boys are taught that they need to correct the injustices of their forefathers lest they be guilty with the indelible sin of white privilege. Female teachers use the appropriate shaming tactics on these young minds to imprint the intended desire for conflict.
All according to plan.
And more:
Men are pawns in the race game. Thus while American women feed themselves government largesse, jobs, university degrees, their husband’s money, and child support money, American men fight each other over table scraps.
But my favorite thing about this article is the little graph that Mr. Samseau made up to illustrate the REAL issues men face today.
Yep. Race is the least important issue, while “getting laid” is number one.
It’s a pretty revealing little chart, huh?
The comment section for the article – wade into this swamp at your own peril – is (predictably enough) filled with angry racists trying to explain why race really does matter. Others, meanwhile, seem upset that all this racism is getting in the way of the regular woman-bashing. Still others suggest that men of all races needed to understand the “root cause” of all our “multicultural problems.” That being … teh Jews.
My favorite comment of the bunch, though, has to be this, from Caliente, combining an astounding ignorance of history with some half-digested evo psych:
Btw the reason why there are practically no racist women is simple.
Males of mammals are territorial.
They naturally base they identity from bottom up: family,tribe,nation,race.And naturally react negative to males of different “tribe”.
Females at the same time are receptive to have sex with any males as long as they are alpha enough.
In 19 century whites fucked all the black women because they were alpha and they had recourses,just look at Brasil.Nowadays a feminist will be cheating on her white beta herbling with some black fitness coach because that is how her brain assumes alphaness.
Wow.
Glad we got that all settled!
Well, I did recently get dumped, which I told him about, and he responded, “So who’s his new girlfriend? Because men are dicks like that, they never break up with someone without having a new girlfriend to switch to.”
He is kind of chubby. Average height. Nothing out of the ordinary.
I conclude that he mangled the throwing a ratio comment. I am sorely tempted to judge him as a human being for mangling math, but I resist this urge, because I am not perfect, either. Irrational numbers trouble me in the night.
weight/height seems more probable than waist/hips, if only because “short” makes more sense as a descriptor. Like another friend of ours, he obsesses over bodily features described in terminology no one else even knows.
I know everyone covered this beautifully but I gotta:
The white power structure that was set up when the country was forming, back in the 1700s, when women were also considered property and had no legal right to vote? Women are 50% responsible for a system they had no power to help create? *headtilt*
Perpetuating racism has been done by all genders but the formation of US law and society back in the 1700s, that was all on the property-owning white dudes. (The ones who made the 3/5ths rule, who wrote the 2nd Amendment to protect slavery, etc.)
I think we could make a shorter list of the shit this trollboy does know rather than trying to keep track of what he doesn’t. *eyeroll*
I would also note that the women’s suffrage movement in the US came into being as a direct result of the actions of those (white, mostly well-off) women in the abolitionist movement. Stanton and Mott were angry that they were not allowed to address large abolitionist meetings because it “wasn’t the proper place” for women to do so and that’s one of the primary reasons why they called the Seneca Falls Convention.
@katz – for upper class white women, yes, being involved in various societies devoted to “do-gooding” was a common activity, especially ones that revolved around church memberships. Those women could manage to do it because they had enough income to have enough servants to manage the entire household and keep everyone alive. Temperance societies came from the same root as women’s abolitionist and suffrage movements, for similar reasons.
Sorry, I did mean in upper-class white families specifically and I should have specified.
@ deniseeliza: I reckon the government should issue licences to be a nerd. A nerd status should be used responsibly and penalty points should be issued to anyone who tries to:
a) prove they’re the nerdiest
b) shove their particular nerd fandom down everyone’s throat
c) be territorial about their particular nerd fandom
d) be a jerk in any social nerd circles or events including discussion forums, gaming or conventions.
e) Act like they’re special non-conformist snowflakes and above everyone else.
Anyone has enough penalty points will have their nerd licence revoked and will have to pass a “How Not to be a Jerk Nerd” test to get it back.
Got any stats to back that up? I live in a big city and hardly ever see men with a waist/hip ratio that is visible < 1………..Men with such a feature probably are overweight since waist/hip ratio is determined predominately by hormone levels. Excess fat in men decreases testosterone levels which might account for the guys you see with such a low waist hip ratio.
That sucks. I hope his new gf makes him take it up the pooper with a strap-on and you find yourself a decent, tall guy who is not chubby.
I do hope the karma catches up with him and his ass gets dumped.
@Demarcq Lol. You can’t ask for stats on someone’s experience.
I looked at that article this morning, thenatfantastic.
It pissed me right the hell off. I am old and I was there. Thirty years of backlash has been fairly successful at selling the idea that the womens liberation movement in the US was all about elite white women demanding their right to be sex objects.
NO. Not just no, but hell no!
David — especially in view of your last two posts — I am in awe of your stamina, fortitude, and just plain strong stomach in being able to read this stuff day after day, and making it digestible (if not exactly palatable) for your readers. I am finally sending a small contribution your way in gratitude for doing this on our behalf.
What it implies is that they mean is that solidarity with other Chicanos(and I mean the plural for the chicano people since the masculine plural is default in the spanish language…..OMG sexism!!!)matters more to them than solidarity with women as a whole.
Personally, I as a white guy have found that I have more in common with men of color than I do with white women. And many white women have told me that they too can relate better to women of color then they can to white men.
Dude, if you can’t see the waist-hip ratio on a dude, you’re not looking hard enough.
Also, whoa, wow to pick such a terrible, terrible fate for the poor man as anal sex. Yes, no men ever engage in that because they enjoy it, for sure.
(this is me giving you a knowing look)
Sure you have.
He may perceive himself as having more in common with men of color, but that doesn’t mean that men of color feel the same way about him.
” And all the women I know have told me that they can relate better to anyone than they can to me. ”
FTFY
“That sucks. I hope his new gf makes him take it up the pooper with a strap-on and you find yourself a decent, tall guy who is not chubby.”
Cuz anal with a strap-on is not just a punishment, but a worse curse than “may he step on Legos”
Grow up please.
Howard — your math and similar comment are making me happy, thank you 🙂
1. Pegging is an act of love, not a punishment.
2. I’m pretty sure this guy wasn’t getting dates because he was a git.
3. Chubby guys who are also sweethearts are totally *~adorable~*.
Um, Demarcq? If you’re trying to help and comfort the commenters here, please don’t.
Fuck off, Demarcq. Fuck off with the fat shaming, fuck off with the height shaming, fuck off with the “jokes” about how humiliating anal sex is. Fuck off with the belief that men don’t have hips and hormones are destiny. Fuck off with the gender essentialism. Just fuck off.
Also, fuck off with the appropriating of other peoples’ (i.e. Chicana/os) experiences. (If you don’t mind me adding on, viola.)
This is my reaction to most of Demarcq’s comments. Anyone else?
The gist I’m getting, if I may summarize, and I may be going out on a limb here, is: fuck off.
He has to be one of our revolving door trolls, I’m just not sure which one.