So when I was poking around on Roosh’s Return of Kings blog the other day I ran across a guest post from someone calling himself Samseau accusing feminists of using racism to exploit men – that is, of expertly manipulating men of different races to fight one another instead of standing firm against the evil feminists and their evil agenda.
The post, while purporting to be somehow “above” the issue of race, is a muddled mess full of “white men have it worst” nonsense like this:
[R]acial infighting between American men wouldn’t be so bad if it weren’t for the political consequences.
Women, if you haven’t noticed, do not fight with each other over racial conflicts. They might get angry over the past, but they are able to resolve all issues by agreeing on a scapegoat: the white man. Colored women will gladly forgive their white sisters, since, after all, it was the white man who oppressed women and minorities.
White men are the big, bad, evil masters, and as such, all females of different colors can agree to put aside their differences in order to bring the white man down.
Yes, he did indeed use the term “colored women.” Oh, but there’s more.
The election results show that decades of brainwashing young American boys has been an unqualified success. Rather than have boys be loyal to their gender, boys have instead been trained to be loyal to their race.
Little non-white boys at the tender age of 9 years are fed lies about how white male oppressors created their poor living conditions, while white boys are taught that they need to correct the injustices of their forefathers lest they be guilty with the indelible sin of white privilege. Female teachers use the appropriate shaming tactics on these young minds to imprint the intended desire for conflict.
All according to plan.
And more:
Men are pawns in the race game. Thus while American women feed themselves government largesse, jobs, university degrees, their husband’s money, and child support money, American men fight each other over table scraps.
But my favorite thing about this article is the little graph that Mr. Samseau made up to illustrate the REAL issues men face today.
Yep. Race is the least important issue, while “getting laid” is number one.
It’s a pretty revealing little chart, huh?
The comment section for the article – wade into this swamp at your own peril – is (predictably enough) filled with angry racists trying to explain why race really does matter. Others, meanwhile, seem upset that all this racism is getting in the way of the regular woman-bashing. Still others suggest that men of all races needed to understand the “root cause” of all our “multicultural problems.” That being … teh Jews.
My favorite comment of the bunch, though, has to be this, from Caliente, combining an astounding ignorance of history with some half-digested evo psych:
Btw the reason why there are practically no racist women is simple.
Males of mammals are territorial.
They naturally base they identity from bottom up: family,tribe,nation,race.And naturally react negative to males of different “tribe”.
Females at the same time are receptive to have sex with any males as long as they are alpha enough.
In 19 century whites fucked all the black women because they were alpha and they had recourses,just look at Brasil.Nowadays a feminist will be cheating on her white beta herbling with some black fitness coach because that is how her brain assumes alphaness.
Wow.
Glad we got that all settled!
Brz, honey, nobody cares. But hey, at least you finally managed after much effort to say something that’s correct!
Pecunium — I just got back from my intake and know exactly what you mean about being lied to by the weather! Hope your various senses sort themselves out soon!
You’re still more logical and easier to follow than Brz though!
@Creative Writing Student
Your Simblr just reminded me of the craziness of Life Stories. Good times. (I’m still on Sims 2 because I’m not sure my computer will run 3, and I want more bundles to save me money!) I have Sims Medieval, which has charmingly crazy stories sometimes, but nothing compared to Life Stories. 🙁
Talk about a straw man. That person never said that you need to be a women’s studies student or know about all the feminisms. Rather, what was said is that you just have a very poor knowledge of feminist discourse. And you do. You have shown that by being very clueless about the radfem critique of pornography and your mindless denigration of people like Simone De Beauvoir.
Looks like that person struck a nerve. Oh my.
It is you who thinks that that person is acting like a judge, not anyone else. All this is
is a statement about you, not a “sentencing”. The fact that you interpreted it as such shows how insecure you are.
@Some Gal
I keep seeing Life Stories in my local CEX (second-hand games shop) and contemplating it. TSM is pretty shiny, but I couldn’t get into the play style of TS3. Supernatural is tempting (or would be if not for the whole £25 and I’m not sure I liked the TS3 base game enough thing).
Ooh ooh a Sims conversation! Can I join?
I have one neighborhood (this is Sims 2) that I originally populated with just one person. I wanted to see how long it would take to fill up the neighborhood with descendents of a single Sim. I also wanted to see if it would ever be possible to run out of unique townies for them to marry. But I lost interest by the time I got to the great-grandchildren.
I’ve got a family in another neighborhood that I’m tracking through the generations, and I even have a separate document where I can mark off how many days I spend on each household, so I can keep their ages synched up. I also decided that they were super-Orthodox Jews, so everyone’s dressed very modestly and the men all have head-coverings and they never work on Saturdays or touch unrelated members of the opposite sex and stuff like that. (I think they all got married by matchmaker too, except the one daughter who rebelled and hooked up with her college professor.)
My biggest issue with the Sims is that I always want to keep them happy. In the original game, I would do all kinds of sadistic stuff to them, but the newer Sims are realistic enough that I feel terrible denying them their dreams and aspirations.
@Creative Writing Student
If it is cheap enough (I would say no more than $7 US, personally) then I’d say go for it. Otherwise, it really is just a stripped down Sims 2 with two over-the-top, endearing, and weird stories (which is probably what I should have said instead of craziness. I have a lot of complicated reasons for continuing to use crazy as a crazy person, but I try to avoid it where I might offend others).
@burgundy
I love hearing all the neat things other people do with…um…Sim breeding (?), especially because of my patience issue (I can spend an hour on sloping a driveway, but the Sims want to eat AGAIN and I start wondering how much longer I can keep at it). I get to play vicariously. The one Sim neighborhood is a really cool idea that I might actually want to try. At the very least, it will prevent another Camazotz situation.
I hate it when my Sims are sad. Especially when they get depressed and don’t want to be social even though they need it to be happy. Too realistic! Way too realistic!
@Some Gal
I think it hangs out around the £3-5 mark ($7 is about £4.42) so I may get it next time I’m in a CEX shop. 😀
@burgandy
I also play rotations, but I have Seasons so I just move when the season changes. This also helps in tracking how many houses I’ve played because it tells you which season they’re on (so I’ve done the spring houses, just gotta play the winter houses et cetera).
None of my current Sims are my own creations, I extracted a load of premades and bunged them in my neighbourhood as legacy founders (Dirk Dreamer, Ophelia Nigmos, Miranda Capp, Melody Tinker, Jules O’Mackey, Rick Contrary and Tara DeBateau).
Argenti: Low Bar.
Pecunium — touché, my apologies for insinutating there was ever any question there!
@mxe354
“Rather, what was said is that you just have a very poor knowledge of feminist discourse”
No, she goggled to find French feminist groups that I had not quoted… And gave the name of a feminist group that I had, in fact, quoted. That’s a hell of good point she made, really.
” You have shown that by being very clueless about the radfem critique of pornography”
From what I remember, I was the one who had sourced his view while arguing that pro-porno feminism goes with the refusal of the “death to rape culture and cops everywhere” stuff taking Marcela Iacub as an example.
Maybe, I’m wrong, but you, you just said “you’re clueless” without feeling the need for argumentation or citations.
You haven’t used anything else than arguments of authority and shaming stuff.
“shaming stuff”
Oh, boo-hoo. What’s next, “misandry?”
“Shaming stuff”
You mean where your shaming language was pointed out to you? Because you get called on your homophobic comments (and the rest) and then reply with how that’s shaming language? Yeah, your original comment was.
Someone else please explain this to him, I’ve been up 20 hours and am fresh out of patience (and spoons)
@Brz
I like Sims! Do you like Sims?
No, shaming fits perfectly, I mean someone said earlier that calling someone crazy is ableism… I don’t want to believe that this person could be serious, I don’t want to think about the implications of such way of thinking.
I only play for the house building, and with the cheat codes, but yes, I loved sim 2 — doesn’t run so well on my Mac unfortunately (it’s the Mac, it gets cranky)
This seems to be your major problem, indeed
Hey, you can be as bigoted as you want, “French” dude — just don’t expect us not to call you out on it.
@Creative Writing Student
I’ve never seen the point of doing virtually something that is already boring in real life : live in a house in a suburb.
“No, shaming fits perfectly, I mean someone said earlier that calling someone crazy is ableism… I don’t want to believe that this person could be serious, I don’t want to think about the implications of such way of thinking.”
Nawh it’s cool man, I don’t actually mind having my mental illness associated with stupid and dangerous politics, not like that doesn’t causes people to associate mental illness with stupidity or danger or anything!
/snark
I was apparently not completely out of spoons.
@cloudiah
You can call me whatever you want, but if find the reasoning behind some name callings so strange that it even scares me.
Hints here:
feminist discourse =/= feminist groups
radfem critique of pornography =/= “From what I remember, I was the one who had sourced his view while arguing that pro-porno feminism goes with the refusal of the “death to rape culture and cops everywhere” stuff taking Marcela Iacub as an example.”
And you ignore the points that others have raised against you (e.g. mxe354). You’re cherry picking your responses.
You also started your comments on this thread with this post:
So fuck off when you accuse others here of “You haven’t used anything else than arguments of authority and shaming stuff.”
Here, I’ll even do your 101 homework for you.
http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/05/17/guest-post-from-rmj-ableist-word-profile-crazy/
http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/05/28/ableist-word-profile-crazy-to-describe-political-viewpoints-or-positions/
Aww, the mere request not to lump the mentally ill in with dangerous viewpoints is scary. Imagine how it feels to be one of those mentally ill people who are assumed to be dangerous since crazy is shorthand for dangerous and thus all crazy people must be dangerous.
You can take a long walk off a short plank in other words, someone pull the manboobz boat close enough to shore that he can swim to shore and leave the rest of us to our fringed flags and admiralty law.