So when I was poking around on Roosh’s Return of Kings blog the other day I ran across a guest post from someone calling himself Samseau accusing feminists of using racism to exploit men – that is, of expertly manipulating men of different races to fight one another instead of standing firm against the evil feminists and their evil agenda.
The post, while purporting to be somehow “above” the issue of race, is a muddled mess full of “white men have it worst” nonsense like this:
[R]acial infighting between American men wouldn’t be so bad if it weren’t for the political consequences.
Women, if you haven’t noticed, do not fight with each other over racial conflicts. They might get angry over the past, but they are able to resolve all issues by agreeing on a scapegoat: the white man. Colored women will gladly forgive their white sisters, since, after all, it was the white man who oppressed women and minorities.
White men are the big, bad, evil masters, and as such, all females of different colors can agree to put aside their differences in order to bring the white man down.
Yes, he did indeed use the term “colored women.” Oh, but there’s more.
The election results show that decades of brainwashing young American boys has been an unqualified success. Rather than have boys be loyal to their gender, boys have instead been trained to be loyal to their race.
Little non-white boys at the tender age of 9 years are fed lies about how white male oppressors created their poor living conditions, while white boys are taught that they need to correct the injustices of their forefathers lest they be guilty with the indelible sin of white privilege. Female teachers use the appropriate shaming tactics on these young minds to imprint the intended desire for conflict.
All according to plan.
And more:
Men are pawns in the race game. Thus while American women feed themselves government largesse, jobs, university degrees, their husband’s money, and child support money, American men fight each other over table scraps.
But my favorite thing about this article is the little graph that Mr. Samseau made up to illustrate the REAL issues men face today.
Yep. Race is the least important issue, while “getting laid” is number one.
It’s a pretty revealing little chart, huh?
The comment section for the article – wade into this swamp at your own peril – is (predictably enough) filled with angry racists trying to explain why race really does matter. Others, meanwhile, seem upset that all this racism is getting in the way of the regular woman-bashing. Still others suggest that men of all races needed to understand the “root cause” of all our “multicultural problems.” That being … teh Jews.
My favorite comment of the bunch, though, has to be this, from Caliente, combining an astounding ignorance of history with some half-digested evo psych:
Btw the reason why there are practically no racist women is simple.
Males of mammals are territorial.
They naturally base they identity from bottom up: family,tribe,nation,race.And naturally react negative to males of different “tribe”.
Females at the same time are receptive to have sex with any males as long as they are alpha enough.
In 19 century whites fucked all the black women because they were alpha and they had recourses,just look at Brasil.Nowadays a feminist will be cheating on her white beta herbling with some black fitness coach because that is how her brain assumes alphaness.
Wow.
Glad we got that all settled!
As a matter of public record I’m trying to find the journal articles I used for my original research paper. As a student I have access so I can’t guarantee they’re not all behind a paywall but if I find any of the pieces I used I’ll cite them here.
I’m not a person of color, but please explain to me how this works out to “Men of color! Listen to this white man! He knows where it’s at!”
I suppose it is sort of grimly amusing that they think there are no men anywhere who have problems bigger than “getting laid” to worry about.
Manboobs is a fat stupid asshole. This fatass shoud post a comment on Return of Kings instead of hiding out here in his treefort. This misandrist sack of lard would be annhilated. There’s no logic here, just “snark”, teh tactic of people with no brains.
THIS.
Coincidentally, I just finished reading this article: How Third World Feminism Differs From First World Feminism. Just popping it here if anyone’s interested in it.
I just looked at the middle of that chart and saw “Not being divorce raped” as one of the higher-level concerns.
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Fuck it. It’s now beer o’ clock.
Not according to the NAACP’s own studies. The ass-data is strong with this one.
Nice to see Dumbarcq subscribes to Owly’s “the only reason any man has ever been racist is because some bitch made him do it” theory.
I mean, people are aware that some feminists/feminist groups are full of fail when it comes to intersectionality. And that’s why a lot of other feminists – including people in this comment section – do their best to, even if not in a position to influence anyone else, at least educate themselves about issues and be mindful of privilege, wherever it may come from.
Unlike the MRM, who just declare it ‘not a problem’.
QFT.
I suppose the men who are happily partnered, get laid (gods that’s a pathetic term), but have, say, health issues, or their loved ones do, or are out of work, or trying to pay for an education, or pay a mortgage/rent, or deal with (gasp) racism … don’t exist.
And that’s just men who’re reasonably secure citizens of somewhere like the US, Australia, the UK and so on and on. What about men whose biggest problem is just trying to stay alive? Men who’re in crappy boats with their whole families, trying to escape war or persecution and facing imprisonment as criminals when they get to so-called asylum? What about the men still in war zones? What about men who are in minorities in places where that’s likely to get you killed, or political prisoners, or simply those struggling in a subsistence economy?
Yeah, nothing in the world is as important as hopelessly inadequate, obnoxious, racist, sexist white creeps’ inability to get laid.
“I have met quite a few women of color, particularly Mexicanas, who view feminist as a rich white girl thing and see themselves as being Chicano first and Women second.”
A woman who identifies with the political leanings of the Chicano movement would technically identify as a Chicana (the a is important) and that itself is a label that encompasses a variety of aspects. Not to simplify it as the ‘Mexican-American version of feminism’, someone who identifies as a Chicana would probably be aware of the shit she faces both from being Chicana and a woman. You can think of it along the same lines as Womanism, if you want. It’s not a dismissal of feminism as a whole, it’s a dismissal of feminism that privileges the experiences of white upper class American women.
Most lynchings were a form of economic and political terrorism. The Klan came for my great-grandfather twice. Both times it was because he’d managed to game the system and get himself and his brother out of the de facto slavery that was Alabama share-cropping. They wanted his land, and they wanted to make an example of him.
I might regret this but what is being “Divorce Raped”?
Let alone the whole MY EXPERIENCE IS THE TRUE EXPERIENCE which everytroll seems to have.
Did they believe in educational, economic and political opportunity for Chicana’s? Or did they think that the world would be a better place when sentient sexbots were the norm and human women had learned their place?
Not using the words “feminist” and “feminism” doesn’t necessarily mean that women who belong to an ethnic minority don’t ascribe to many of the same core beliefs and principles. See “womanism”.
“Yeah, nothing in the world is as important as hopelessly inadequate, obnoxious, racist, sexist white creeps’ inability to get laid.”
The best part is that their perspective on the world is so screwed that they have NO PROBLEM whatsoever declaring this publicly all over the internet.
@Demarcq
Yep, there indeed is a lot of racism among white feminists. And guess what? A lot of white women and women of colour feminists are actively combating this racism, and have already made remarkable progress since the 70’s when feminism was mostly a thing of white, well-off women. And guess what? We’re combating the racism with the tools of feminism (and civil rights in general) itself; the same tools that were used to identify, name and change the problems women have faced and still face have been and still are being used to combat racism among some feminists. All people are prone to racism, no cause is 100% clean of it because all causes are made up of people. But some causes (the better ones) identify it and call it what it is. That’s the only way to eradicate racism. And that’s why MRM will never truly succeed in uniting men of all colours; you are, by definition, incapable of looking for and finding faults in yourselves. You even blame your OWN racism on women! That’s not how it works.
Exactly the NAACP’s conclusions from scouring local newspaper reports from all over the country. I am glad your great-grandfather survived that; those were indeed scary times, especially in the South.
Anyone who is interested in learning more based on, you know, facts, I can recommend two books:
The warmth of other suns by Isabel Wilkerson
Red summer by Cameron McWhirter
Get them from your local library! This has been a PSA sponsored by Should I go the fuck to the Library?
Don’t you… get sick of this shit sometimes? It’s basically like UFOlogy or Anicent Spacemen Theories – it’s stuff written by people who thrive on being completely disconnected from other people’s reality.
Like that guy you quoted for this article – he obviously did not even bother to read something like… a blog run by black feminists?!
This is one of the most extraordinary things I’ve ever read. You can pretty much reduce it to:
Stop objecting to racism, black men! For one thing, racism is obviously great. For another, you’re too busy objecting to your own oppression to oppress women as much as you should. Finally, you’re forcing white dudes to be reactionarily racist to you during their designated “be reactionarily sexist to feminists” time. You suck!
Ta-Nehisi Coates just read the Wilkerson book, and he recommends it too.
Oh my goodness, I would love to see some racist white feminist get into trouble over race and then try to deflect it by blaming white men for everything. Yeah, that would work.
The more I think about it, the more Demarcq’s “exactly 50%” claim makes sense. For instance, I only just now noticed that exactly 50% of voters, landowners, slave owners, and congresscritters during the time of slavery in the US were white women. And remember how a woman used to literally give up all her property to her husband upon marriage? Never happened! All of which goes to show that white women had exactly 50% of the power, and thus exactly 50% responsibility for the white supremacist structure in the US.
There is a lot of silent, implicit racism amongst white feminists
“In fact, it’s so silent and implicit that I can’t provide any examples of it!”
No wonder those MRA guys want government-supplied girlfriends, driving-while-not-getting-laid is a Serious Issue.
I have a mental issue of the assfacts being removed like the endless scarf trick that some magicians perform. Apparently that trick is really amusing to infants: http://engagingtoddleractivities.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/endless-scarf/