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Roosh fan: Black and White Unite to Fight … the evil feminist white-male bashers! (Also: a terrible chart.)

I think we can all agree that the REAL problem is all those damn women's libbers
I think we men can all agree that the REAL problem is those damn women’s libbers

So when I was poking around on Roosh’s Return of Kings blog the other day I ran across a guest post from someone calling himself Samseau accusing feminists of using racism to exploit men – that is, of expertly manipulating men of different races to fight one another instead of standing firm against the evil feminists and their evil agenda.

The post, while purporting to be somehow “above” the issue of race, is a muddled mess full of “white men have it worst” nonsense like this:

[R]acial infighting between American men wouldn’t be so bad if it weren’t for the political consequences.

Women, if you haven’t noticed, do not fight with each other over racial conflicts. They might get angry over the past, but they are able to resolve all issues by agreeing on a scapegoat: the white man. Colored women will gladly forgive their white sisters, since, after all, it was the white man who oppressed women and minorities.

White men are the big, bad, evil masters, and as such, all females of different colors can agree to put aside their differences in order to bring the white man down.

Yes, he did indeed use the term “colored women.” Oh, but there’s more.

The election results show that decades of brainwashing young American boys has been an unqualified success. Rather than have boys be loyal to their gender, boys have instead been trained to be loyal to their race.

Little non-white boys at the tender age of 9 years are fed lies about how white male oppressors created their poor living conditions, while white boys are taught that they need to correct the injustices of their forefathers lest they be guilty with the indelible sin of white privilege. Female teachers use the appropriate shaming tactics on these young minds to imprint the intended desire for conflict.

All according to plan.

And more:

Men are pawns in the race game. Thus while American women feed themselves government largesse, jobs, university degrees, their husband’s money, and child support money, American men fight each other over table scraps.

But my favorite thing about this article is the little graph that Mr. Samseau made up to illustrate the REAL issues men face today.

RooshRaceChart

Yep. Race is the least important issue, while “getting laid” is number one.

It’s a pretty revealing little chart, huh?

The comment section for the article – wade into this swamp at your own peril – is (predictably enough) filled with angry racists trying to explain why race really does matter. Others, meanwhile, seem upset that all this racism is getting in the way of the regular woman-bashing. Still others suggest that men of all races needed to understand the “root cause” of all our “multicultural problems.” That being … teh Jews.

My favorite comment of the bunch, though, has to be this, from Caliente, combining an astounding ignorance of history with some half-digested evo psych:

Btw the reason why there are practically no racist women is simple.

Males of mammals are territorial.

They naturally base they identity from bottom up: family,tribe,nation,race.And naturally react negative to males of different “tribe”.

Females at the same time are receptive to have sex with any males as long as they are alpha enough.

In 19 century whites fucked all the black women because they were alpha and they had recourses,just look at Brasil.Nowadays a feminist will be cheating on her white beta herbling with some black fitness coach because that is how her brain assumes alphaness.

Wow.

Glad we got that all settled!

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danielleparadis
11 years ago

I can’t wrap my head around that last quote. Brazillians. White men had sex with black women and so now feminists cheat on their betas by having sex with black fitness coaches because…feminism?

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
11 years ago

I’m a bit slow today (I blame being woken twice through the night by the youngest cat, who was having sneezing fits, then needed mommy to snuggle him, and promptly sneezed all over the side of her face… vet says it’s a minor virus, btw). I’ve only just realised that Roosh is the sound of reality and facts passing him by. So truth in advertising with his name.

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The Roosh Whoosh! 😀

Is that the same kitty who had the shadow in his lungs? Or have you yet to get the news back about the tests?

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
11 years ago

Different kitty, this one is my baby. He started sneezing yesterday, so took him to the vet today to make sure it was nothing worse than a light virus. He’s coming right already. Just worried that the other one will catch it, which will delay the investigation as sneezing + congestion + shadows on lungs is not a good combination, and one I would refuse to give consent to for a general anaesthetic.

Neurite
Neurite
11 years ago

Oooh, mxe, conditioner is definitely your friend. A cis male friend of mine who had grown out his hair had never gotten into the habit of conditioner, and just kinda figured that his hair was normally like that when long (tangly, rough, almost tacky-feeling when touched). He figured that he was using that 2-in-1 shampoo-and-conditioner stuff, and that was plenty, right? Nooo. It’s a contradiction in terms – conditioner is trying to achieve fundamentally different things than shampoo, and usually has a different pH, so combining them into one product in a functional way is nigh on impossible. The extra time following shampooing with separate conditioning is well spent! We finally got him to try real conditioner and he was blown away by how soft and smooth and fun to play with his hair got.

Other thoughts:

– Experiment with different conditioners. There are, of course, different ones for different hair types (though not as many as the hair care companies would have you believe. Conditioners “for curly hair”, “color-treated hair”, “chemical-treated hair” or “dry hair” are really pretty much all the same. Most of the dizzying variety can be grouped into “for dry hair”, “for greasy hair”, and “for neutral hair”). But within your category, different brands may work differently for you (and “more expensive” does not always mean “better”).

– If you have dry hair, you can occasionally substitute just rinsing your hair with conditioner for the full shampoo-and-condition routine (and don’t have to do either daily, every few days is fine). Using shampoo less often will keep dry hair much healthier (and only ever use shampoo on your scalp! the length and tips of your hair only need conditioner), and dry hair can go longer without washing than other hair types before getting icky (an unfair benefit that makes me feel better about my split ends, the other side of the dry-hair coin).

Welcome to the world of long hair, and the fun things you will soon be able to do with it (buns? updos? pigtails? bangs? hairbands? hope you have tons of fun with it)!

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Seriously, don’t even try the 2-in-1 shit, turns me into a nearly 3′ wide frizz ball. Big fan of garnier’s fructis line myself, but YMMV. Be prepared to go through conditioner at like three times the rate as shampoo, and if your hair’s nearly as dry as mine, don’t try shampooing daily, that also induce 3′ frizz ball mode (of course, getting away with washing it twice a week is kind of a perk right?)

Also, that spot on your back you can never quite scratch? Wiggle your head and your hair will do the job, it’s wonderful 🙂

In short, Neurite’s a hair genius.

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I’ll be the only odd one out who finds the two-in-one fine (yes, I know it’s a contradiction) – I shampoo every other night and rinse my scalp otherwise. But I use leave-in conditioner on the ends in the mornings. My hair doesn’t get very dry and certainly doesn’t frizz, but the leave-in helps with keeping the curl. Only good thing about humid weather is the added curliness!

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
11 years ago

Now I have my hair super short, I only use shampoo. Trick is: shampoo is to clean your scalp and the hair next to it, so don’t work shampoo through the rest of your hair. For conditioner, it’s the reverse. Only use conditioner away from your scalp,it should never touch it. And never use rubber bands if you’re going to tie up your hair – only use hair ties or elastics. Also, don’t tie your hair up when it’s wet.

Otherwise, have fun. 🙂

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CassandraSays mentioned a really good thing about drying curly hair last time we were talking about this – just squeeze it dry rather than really rubbing it, and don’t wrap the towel around it (we won’t even mention how deadly blow-drying is for curls). I’ve been towelling my hair that way since then and it does make quite a difference; even after a night’s sleep it’s not as flattened out as it was.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

For extra emphasis — never use elastic bands, never.

As for wet hair, the super loose sort of ties work okay for general hair wrangling, or clips if your hair is thin enough. I tend to just braid it and let the wetness hold it together, it at least keeps it out of my face (and off my keyboard and iPad) until it dries, plus that little bit of waviness.

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Silly question but does it feel really heavy if you leave it too wet?

Heh – you could totes do a mermaid-type cosplay self portrait if you fancied it that way! 🙂

Kim
Kim
11 years ago

Oh yes, the feel of smooth hair is so nice. And you can smell it once it’s longer and close to your face too. Not so good when you’ve been cooking, but with a nice conditioner – very nice. I’ve started using one that smells like coconut. Plus I use the swartzkopf spray-on leave in conditioner as well. It works really well for me, and smells lovely.

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My hairdresser uses a coconut-scented conditioner on my hair, it’s lovely. I use rejuven8 at home, which has a faint fruit scent (it purportedly has bilberry and blackberry in it).

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Kitteh — my hair’s absurdly fine, so no, it isn’t all that heavy when wet.

mxe354
mxe354
11 years ago

@Neurite
“If you have dry hair, you can occasionally substitute just rinsing your hair with conditioner for the full shampoo-and-condition routine (and don’t have to do either daily, every few days is fine). Using shampoo less often will keep dry hair much healthier (and only ever use shampoo on your scalp! the length and tips of your hair only need conditioner), and dry hair can go longer without washing than other hair types before getting icky (an unfair benefit that makes me feel better about my split ends, the other side of the dry-hair coin).”

What do you mean by “dry hair?” I hate to be incredibly naive, but I think pretty much everyone who isn’t in the shower 24/7 can have dry hair. Do you mean hair that never gets oily? Or do you mean something else?

drst
drst
11 years ago

@Kittehs – yep. My hair is really thick and weighs a ton when wet, and when I do the gentle scrunching to get the curls more defined and don’t really wring it out, it’s pretty heavy. Some days I can’t be bothered, or it’s too cold and I do dry it a lot with the towel and then use a hair dryer (with a diffuser) because I’m impatient! 🙂

@mxe354 – yes, we’re talking about hair that isn’t very oily, that is frequently brittle and subject to breaking (while dry). Mine was like that until I started limiting shampooing to 2x a week and just used rinsing or conditioner the rest of the time.

If people are looking for coconut oil in their conditioner, I highly recommend the Organix line if you can get it:

http://www.organixhair.com/category-title/342

The shampoo and conditioner both have coconut oil in them, which is really good for dry and wavy/curly hair. Also it smells awesome, like you’re at the beach. 🙂

mxe354
mxe354
11 years ago

@Kitteh

My hairdresser uses a coconut-scented conditioner on my hair, it’s lovely.

Shit, I need to try that. Coconut-scented hair products are always full of loveliness. Currently I just have Head & Shoulders conditioner, which I just tried this morning. It doesn’t have any nice scent (just that plain conditioner smell), but it’s made my hair very silky and smooth.

@drst

I see. My hair isn’t like that at all. I’ve always had very oily hair – it takes only a day for it to get significantly oily. I take it that oily hair should be shampooed and conditioned more often, yes? That’s what I’ve always been doing.

AliasC
AliasC
11 years ago

Kim talking about being able to smell your shampoo & stuff reminds me of one of my favorite stories. The first time I ever got drunk, the concoction that really did the job was something called a Strawberry Sherman – schnapps was involved, as I remember.

The next morning I dragged my hungover ass into the shower and used my strawberry-scented shampoo and conditioner. Then, of course, every time I turned my head I could smell strawberries and would turn green.

A ponytail and a trip to the drugstore later, I had learned…some kind of valuable lesson, I’m sure. 🙂

mxe354
mxe354
11 years ago

CassandraSays mentioned a really good thing about drying curly hair last time we were talking about this – just squeeze it dry rather than really rubbing it, and don’t wrap the towel around it (we won’t even mention how deadly blow-drying is for curls). I’ve been towelling my hair that way since then and it does make quite a difference; even after a night’s sleep it’s not as flattened out as it was.

I have straight/slightly wavy hair, and I feel awful whenever I dry-rub my hair. Would squeezing it dry work just as well? I’m just worried about damaging my hair by rubbing a towel on it.

clairedammit
clairedammit
11 years ago

worst impression of a black guy ever

clairedammit
clairedammit
11 years ago

I have straight/slightly wavy hair, and I feel awful whenever I dry-rub my hair. Would squeezing it dry work just as well? I’m just worried about damaging my hair by rubbing a towel on it.

mxe354, squeezing should be fine. You’ll be able to get almost as much water out. My hair tip is to always brush your hair immediately before you wash it. This is because your hair is weakest when it’s wet and trying to brush out a tangle is much easier on dry hair. Have fun growing out your hair!

cloudiah
11 years ago

Pell?

drst
drst
11 years ago

@mxe – I don’t know, I’ve always had dry hair, so I’m not sure what to do otherwise. If you’re trying to get the waves to hold their shape better, definitely try the gentle scrunching method of drying rather than the towel rub. And don’t comb or brush afterward, or you’ll just flatten out the waves again.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Rubbing curly or wavy hair will make it frizz like crazy. It also tends to break the hair shaft, as does brushing. I’d suggest taking a look at this website, because the longer your hair gets, the more challenging it can be to take care of it.

http://www.naturallycurly.com/

It can also help to figure out your specific hair texture, since that will determine what products work best for you (I like the Ouidad and Deva lines, though I’ve heard Carol’s Daughter can be better for tighter or z-type curls). Start here.

http://www.naturallycurly.com/texture-typing

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Organix is a great drugstore line. Their body washes are excellent as well.

Kevin Murphy makes awesome salon high-end products. I especially like the Maxi wash.

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