I haven’t been keeping up with The Spearhead of late, but a commenter here drew my attention to the sort of timeless wisdom I’ve been missing from the Spearhead gang.
In this comment, DW3 offered his thoughts on how to combat the evils of single motherhood. The solution involves putting single moms in workhouses. To be more specific, in sex-workhouses — that is, whorehouses.
I think there should be whorehouses for single mothers to work at, to pay their debts to society. Such a system would kill several birds with one stone.
There would be safe and legal access to prostitution, presumably reducing the drugs and violence associated with the way the trade is currently practiced.
It would allow single mothers to learn the value of getting up and getting to work on time, so that they might aspire to a different career.
It would assist traditional families in steering their daughters and nieces and sisters in a different direction, with a very visible and well-known consequence to ignoring the families’ advice.
It would allow single mothers to give back for all the resources they consume, and ideally it could replace child support on some sort of sliding scale of pay for the workers. Perhaps starting at $50 paid per client, less $20 per child more than 1. That way, a single mother with 3 kids could still get $10, and more than that would be inclined to try to hide off the grid the way divorced and separated fathers now have to.
I have my own opinions about whether choice single mothers cause more harm than divorcees, but for this proposal I suppose that they should be treated differently. Divorced women would surrender their children to the father and have to pay half their whorehouse earnings to support the family, however they would get the full $50 regardless of the number of kids.
Perhaps the whorehouses could charge $80 for providing their services, with a modest 20% discount for married men who proved they had a family to support.
DW3 prefaced this comment with a line in which he notes that this idea might be a bit much even for the regular denizens of The Spearhead. But no one actually took issue with his proposals. Indeed, Lyn87 (a Spearhead regular I’ve written about before) noted that he’d had similar thoughts on the matter himself.
Since men are responsible to pay for the children that women they have sex with choose to bear (that is the stark legal reality – every child that is born is born due to the SOLE choice of the mother), then it stands to reason that:
Money paid to support a child = the obligation a man incurs by having sex with the mother.
Since having sex is enough to legally entitle a woman to a man’s money if a pregnancy ensues and she elects to give birth, shouldn’t taking a man’s money legally entitle him to have sex with the mother if he has not already done so?
Fair is fair, right?
My Modest Proposal: a single-mother-by-choice who takes public assistance should be required by law (as men’s financial obligations are), to have sex with any man who can produce a 1040 showing that he paid taxes in the past 12 months (at least once for each child).
The Spearhead: As reliably awful as stomach flu.
….actually, that was the first time I actually laughed at a Diogenes joke.
First time ever.
I’d say something corny like ‘there’s hope for you yet,’ but there pretty much isn’t.
But I did laugh, so pat yourself on the back.
By the way, what the hell? Why would you refer to this as ‘A Modest Proposal’ and then propose it in all seriousness?
No, I mean really. Usually if you’re making A Modest Proposal you at least TRY to put it over the top enough to show your command of satire. (though if you have to name-drop Swift you’re probably not doing so very good at it)
Why would you call this your Modest Proposal as the guy quoted back in the OP does… and then make it seriously?
It hurts my head.
Wait…..”safe and legal access to prostitution”…..”safe”……”safe”…..so single moms are immune to STDs now? Not to mention this guy seems to carry the Todd Akin viewpoint that women can “will” themselves to not get pregnant again. For people who constantly scream and whine about sex they sure don’t know much about it.
Wow, Diogenes and Grumbles prove yet again that being so painfully literal and obtuse should hurt.
I’m sure this has already been covered, but his plan would only result in yet even more children born to “single mothers.” Although perhaps that’s the evil genius of this asshole — just like indentured servants, these women will never be able to pay their debt and will then be trapped where they are and unable to leave.
And yeah, these guys keep claiming they don’t hate women. Try again.
I was wondering this too! A Modest Proposal doesn’t work if you believe Swift actually supports eating babies, yet this repulsive “proposal” is apparently seen as perfectly rational and doable by its creator.
Does the person behind the OP piece take their ideas seriously? I dunno,…it’s wishful thinking, sure. Fantasy? Uh-huh. There’s nothing left for these trogs to do but post hateful little screeds online.
The world is passing them by, and they’re pissed-off because they were born after the ’50s…or maybe they’re mad that they did not have the good fortune of being born cro-magnon.
MRAs’ weird demonization of single mothers reminds me of one of the Republican party’s favorite boogey-men — The Welfare Mom. Both groups are moldy, and refusing to evolve.
I still don’t understand how, if as soon as a woman becomes a single mother she’s given a job (yes in a brothel but let’s gloss over that to examine the
finerstupider points of the theory), how she’s incurred a ‘debt to society’ to repay. I mean, she has a job. She’s, in theory, not claiming benefits. So where’s the debt coming from? It’s like a vortex of nonsensical suppositions.@thenatfantastic
I think these guys think all non-whitestraightcismen have a ‘debt to society’ by existing as independent, autonomous entities and wishing to be treated as such.
Well, these guys don’t have fatigues, but it’s a good proof-of-concept….
Okay, I admit I took Diogenes at face value on the “Swift was a minister” line.
I think it’s pretty well established that, while there’s no sarcasm, sorry, “irony” font, it’s acceptable practice here to say “/sarcasm” or something like that.
I suppose it’s the core of Poe’s Law, that anything that’s not sarcastic on its face and doesn’t have some kind of indication that it’s sarcasm is likely to get taken for granted.
So now you know, Diorrhea, and you no longer have an excuse. Tag your sarcasm or get taken seriously.
@Falconer – I honestly don’t think that was either sarcasm or irony. I think it was just Dio being an idiot.
I thought all single mothers always were either banging ‘thugs’ or trying to steal the hard-earned wages of teh menz. Children are just things that come out of dirty, dirty sexin’ wimmins.
The only reason a woman would ever initiate a divorce is to get some free money from some sap who isn’t alpha enough for her so she can go bang some more ‘thugs’.
Obviously, if a man divorces a woman it is because she has done something wrong like getting older or asking him to do things.
All these things result in less sex for the affected upstanding, nice, decent, white, hard working sensible and rational men. The debt to society is all the sex these decent men aren’t getting. That’s what is being repaid. Sex debt. Cause women owe men sex just for being allowed to exist right? Right?
Thinking like an MRA is…interesting. Ugh.
@howardbann1ster
Yup, that’s what I thought. This guy either has worse knowledge of history, literature and western culture than I could imagine, or he does not understand the connotations. Or maybe he does not understand satire in general. Either way it doesn’t speak well of him. If he was not of western background I could perhaps understand the ignorance of culture-specific things such as A Modest Proposal, which might not be as relevant as local satirical pieces as it is in anglosphere and anglosphere-influenced countries, but he certainly speaks like he is and should have heard of this in school at the very least. Not to mention it’s use as a satirical trope in popular and higher culture both…
But I’m glad I’m not the only one who went WTF at this.
Actually it was an “ironic” font, just for extra “wow you are a fucking imbecile” lulz.
This is so gross in so many ways. So not only do these assholes thing single mothers should be forced into prostitution, they actually think they should get LESS money the more children they have. Way to go guys, you’re supporting sex slavery and starving children.
Oh, and it’s totally cool for married men to cheat on their wives with sex slaves, though I bet I can guess what their reaction would be to a married woman sleeping with another man, prostitute or not.
I just… do they LISTEN to themselves? Like at all?
I feel like I need a shower.
For people who constantly scream and whine about sex they sure don’t know much about it.
I think the reason they constantly scream and whine about sex is because they don’t know much about it.
I think the reason they constantly scream and whine about sex is because they don’t know much about it.
Clearly not much in the way of reality-based knowledge, definitely.
Of course, I don’t know much about hockey, but you don’t see me going on about it and waving my ignorance to the entire internet.
Lovecraft’s stories are intentionally humorless. What he wanted more than anything was for his writings to be taken seriously. But hey, it’s the internets, dowhatchalike.
Sadly, we can’t say the same for your posts.
.@falconer re: drop bears – perfect! 😀
@Demarcq
Ever heard of ‘Death of the Author’ theory?
So, like … Comic Sans?
Oh, we take Lovecraft seriously. Very <a href=http://www.warehouse23.com/item.html?id=SJG9405seriously indeed.
Frak you, HTML!
seriously
I found this article last night while surfing the NZ Stuff website (they have links to a parenting site): http://www.essentialmums.co.nz/pregnancy/conception/8218913/Ob-gyns-sound-alarm-on-contraceptive-sabotage
MMMmmmm hmmm so it’s always females who try to trick their partner into a pregnancy.
Can we offer to do the bureaucracy (permits, health and safety, etc) and building for the MRA land so we can get them there faster?