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Scary news from A Voice for Men. On their front page right now:

AVFMswedenisgermany

So Sweden is Nazi Germany?

This is a little confusing to me, because, according to what I’ve always considered the most trusted and reliable source of Swedish information, Sweden is actually Napoleonic France.

Unfortunately, my only other real source for information on Sweden is not much help either, as it seems to suggest that Sweden is … the Mojave desert?

 

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M Dubz
11 years ago

@Karalora- Those are freaking brilliant; tiny little Finland with his tiny little knife *squee*

and below is the strap-on of women’s rights:

http://satwcomic.com/women-s-rights

cloudiah
11 years ago

Karalora, Nyhavn! Awesome!

clairedammit
clairedammit
11 years ago

Awesome, Karalora!.

David, I would love to hear the voicemail you got. Was it from The Otter?

lowquacks
lowquacks
11 years ago

@David

The AFFAK link on the sidebar points to http://artistryforfeminismandkittens.wordpress.co/ , which redirects to the wordpress homepage, rather than http://artistryforfeminismandkittens.wordpress.com .

Karalora
Karalora
11 years ago

Aw, thanks for all the compliments, guys! I really am in love with that silly little webcomic. I’ve learned more from it than I ever learned in school.

cloudiah
11 years ago

Thanks lowquacks for noticing the sidebar link to AFFAK doesn’t work! XD

Meanwhile, new post: http://artistryforfeminismandkittens.wordpress.com/2013/01/18/rejoin-the-man-boobz-poster-revolution-the-final-conflict/

In case you didn’t spend enough time on the posters. They still make me laugh so hard.

lowquacks
lowquacks
11 years ago

Ha! NOBODY expects the Spanish– er, Swedish country-rock musicians!

Of course they do; there’s a whole film and concept album about that sort of thing.

viola
11 years ago

Didn’t… didn’t this story happen, like, two years ago? I’m sure I remember the manosphere getting worked up about Swedish feminists making a “violent” video, and those feminists turning out to be a theatre group nobody had heard of, ages back.

Am I anticipating AVFM in my sleep, or are they recycling?

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
11 years ago

Don’t know much about Swedish country music, but I like me some Norwegian folk.

Kim
Kim
11 years ago

Well, this is interesting. http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/losing-my-religion-for-equality-20090714-dk0v.html

An opinion piece by Jimmy Carter (yes that one).

Women and girls have been discriminated against for too long in a twisted interpretation of the word of God.
I HAVE been a practising Christian all my life and a deacon and Bible teacher for many years. My faith is a source of strength and comfort to me, as religious beliefs are to hundreds of millions of people around the world. So my decision to sever my ties with the Southern Baptist Convention, after six decades, was painful and difficult. It was, however, an unavoidable decision when the convention’s leaders, quoting a few carefully selected Bible verses and claiming that Eve was created second to Adam and was responsible for original sin, ordained that women must be “subservient” to their husbands and prohibited from serving as deacons, pastors or chaplains in the military service.

my fellow Elders and I, who come from many faiths and backgrounds, no longer need to worry about winning votes or avoiding controversy – and we are deeply committed to challenging injustice wherever we see it.
The Elders are an independent group of eminent global leaders, brought together by former South African president Nelson Mandela, who offer their influence and experience to support peace building, help address major causes of human suffering and promote the shared interests of humanity. We have decided to draw particular attention to the responsibility of religious and traditional leaders in ensuring equality and human rights and have recently published a statement that declares: “The justification of discrimination against women and girls on grounds of religion or tradition, as if it were prescribed by a Higher Authority, is unacceptable.”

I wonder if it will make a difference, and if so how long it will take. The MRAs I find the most offensive are often the ones who use religion as a justification.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

Viola – wasn’t that some video supposedly showing women attacking a man? Something of the dubious-but-satirical variety, I think. Not sure if it had anything to do with the SCUM manifesto or that’s just the MRM conflating them.

Kim – yeah, I was sort of high-fiving Jimmy Carter from a distance when he did that. 🙂

bookdragonette
bookdragonette
11 years ago

@LBT I know, right? They’re one of my favourite comic (in both senses of the word) duo.

Vivadisgrazia
Vivadisgrazia
11 years ago

Sorry I usually only lurk but this is the most hilarious thing ever and deserves so much praise !!!!!!! ” Presumably, the Sewdish prime-minister will be arrested as he ceremoniously opens the first camp and immediately imprisoned in it?”

titianblue
titianblue
11 years ago

Tigers attacking snowMEN – is there not end to the misandry? lol

http://bbc.in/106Kkbt

Dvärghundspossen
11 years ago

Viola, you might be thinking of a different theatre group who put up a monologue based on the SCUM manifest, and made a youtube video advertising it featuring a woman murdering a man. They got tons of death threats from MRA:s, and thanks to that tons of attention they probably wouldn’t have gotten otherwise. Their monologue became a HUGE success and everyone who’s someone had to go see it and celebrate it all over the cultural pages of every newspaper and magazine ever, so this spring they’re giving the monologue again.

Probably not what the MRA hoped for.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
11 years ago

Maybe not what the MRAs think they hoped for, but it confirms some of their fears (OMG misandrist culture!!!) and gives them more to whine about, so on some level it really did work out in their favor

Creative Writing Student
Creative Writing Student
11 years ago

@Dvarghundspossen

I thought that the Swedish SCUM theatre group who wrote Chicago was something dreamt up by NWOslave.

Dvärghundspossen
11 years ago

Actually, all the hype this play got disturbed me.

Firstly you have male journalists who write super-positive reviews about how they were supposed to sit in a particular men’s department in the theatre while women threw insults at them. Everyone seems to agree that this was a very interesting experience that made you understand what it’s like to be under-privileged, and it wasn’t SERIOUSLY disturbing since after all men have nothing to be afraid of.
I think it’s a fucking insult to my gender that men can react that way… You know, women aren’t dangerous FOR REAL so it’s all just an interesting experience. I mean, the men are RIGHT, it’s not like this theatre group will attack them for real, it’s not like men face the kind of threat from women as a group that women face from men as a group. But this just goes to show how ultimately SILLY it is to do this kind of performance.
I don’t think a member of a privileged group can ever fully understand what it’s like to be a member of an underprivileged group… Like I will never understand what it’s like to be black, for instance. But if you wanna get as near understanding as possible, the best way is probably to watch movies, read blogs and so on written by members of these groups writing about their experiences, and simply TALK to members of these groups about what it’s like. Not put on some stupid show where privileged people sit there and PRETEND for a little while that everything is the other way around and women threaten men in a misandrist society.

Secondly, there are female friends of mine who’ve seen the play and put Solana quotes on their Facebook updates, crap about how women are superior to men because women are naturally peaceful and good while men are EVIL. And I’m like, can’t you see that these quotes you’re squirting out are actually very similar to the crap conservatives have been saying for over a hundred years – how women are BETTER than men, all peaceful and sweet (and therefore they shouldn’t enter the army or big business or politics because in these arenas they’ll just get tainted with the evils of the men)? You hate that crap when it comes from conservatives, so why do you celebrate it when it comes from Solanas?

So, urgh… Haven’t even seen the play (I bet it’s terribly entertaining, since me and Husband watched another play by that same theatre group and it was a riot, so they’re obviously an incredibly talented bunch) but the way people who HAVE seen it TALK about it disturbs me for several reasons.

Which doesn’t make it any more right to threaten members of the theatre group, as MRA:s world-wide has done.

Dvärghundspossen
11 years ago

Okay, watched the Skabbteatern video now, linked in this thread. As your resident Swede I’ll explain to you that they don’t say a single word except reciting the names of the people on their “enemy list” from the website. Seems like the message is supposed to be that all these people are a threat to women, and now they’re gonna fight back? Yeah, I think that is disturbing, and wrong. Posing with assault weapons, suggesting that it’s time to “fight back”, and among their supposed enemies are top politicians. Terrorist vibes, anyone? I mean, I hate the government too, but they should be voted out of power.

Plus I don’t really buy this super-strong connection many socialist feminists wanna make between socialism and feminism, between different kinds of oppressions. I don’t think you’re automatically a misogynist because you’re anti-working-class. I think our current government’s policies have hit the working-class and under-class really hard, and if you belong to one of these groups AND are a woman different oppressions will intersect in various ways and make your situation shittier than if you were a working-class man. That said, the government has also, among other things, instigated special programs for supporting female entrepreneurs, they’ve made it easier and cheaper to hire nannies and maids (and this obviously benefits high-earning women more than high-earning men) and they talk about making it mandatory for big business boards to have a certain percentage of women. Seems to me the government are pretty fond of the women in big business and the upper class. “Misogynist” and “anti-feminist” aren’t labels you can stick on anyone you disagree with. Words mean things.

But still, as much as I dislike this video, it’s not like a youtube video posted by a group of completely unknown feminists who hate the government proves that Sweden as a country is misandrist. Nor does it support the interesting theory that we’re just one step away from putting men in concentration camps.

Dvärghundspossen
11 years ago

Oh, and finally, the title of the video translates to “you’re a cunt you cunt”. Except being a bit tautological, one might think that it isn’t entirely feminist to refer to people you hate as “cunts”.

drst
drst
11 years ago

@Kim – that op=ed is from 2009.

cloudiah
11 years ago

CWS, Owly thought an American feminist wrote a scene from Chicago that he found on YouTube. Chloe something? It’s on my blog somewhere…

But guys, driversuz admits that she totally made up that weird erotic story about her son:
http://www.avoiceformen.com/women/an-anonymous-letter/

She apparently does have a son, he’s just not as cool as her imaginary son.

Hilarious. Disturbing. Like so much of feMRAdom.

titianblue
titianblue
11 years ago

Driversuz made it up – shocked, I’m shocked, I tell you (not really).

emmittnervend
emmittnervend
11 years ago

@Dvärghundspossen
“Actually, all the hype this play got disturbed me.

Firstly you have male journalists who write super-positive reviews about how they were supposed to sit in a particular men’s department in the theatre while women threw insults at them. Everyone seems to agree that this was a very interesting experience that made you understand what it’s like to be under-privileged….”

Reminds me of a segment from an early Brian De Palma movie called “Hi, Mom,” starring Robert De Niro. The segment’s called “Be Black, Baby” and has a group of Black radicals putting on a play for a WASP audience where they feed the audience soul food, dress them up in shoe polish, and hurl racial slurs and violence at them. Eventually a cop comes in and arrests the white audience in blackface. The audience finds the play a huge success, talking about how they finally know what it’s like to be Black while the performers look on, pretty sure that the audience didn’t learn anything at all.

stonerwithaboner
11 years ago

Mr. Futrelle,

here’s a challenge:

If:

2 + 3 = 10
7 + 2 = 63
6 + 5 = 66
8 + 4 = 96

Then:

9 + 7 = ?

hope you can do better than these guys:

http://glpiggy.net/2013/01/19/toxically-shame-based-white-men/#comment-52912