Scary news from A Voice for Men. On their front page right now:
So Sweden is Nazi Germany?
This is a little confusing to me, because, according to what I’ve always considered the most trusted and reliable source of Swedish information, Sweden is actually Napoleonic France.
Unfortunately, my only other real source for information on Sweden is not much help either, as it seems to suggest that Sweden is … the Mojave desert?
@Karalora- Those are freaking brilliant; tiny little Finland with his tiny little knife *squee*
and below is the strap-on of women’s rights:
http://satwcomic.com/women-s-rights
Karalora, Nyhavn! Awesome!
Awesome, Karalora!.
David, I would love to hear the voicemail you got. Was it from The Otter?
@David
The AFFAK link on the sidebar points to http://artistryforfeminismandkittens.wordpress.co/ , which redirects to the wordpress homepage, rather than http://artistryforfeminismandkittens.wordpress.com .
Aw, thanks for all the compliments, guys! I really am in love with that silly little webcomic. I’ve learned more from it than I ever learned in school.
Thanks lowquacks for noticing the sidebar link to AFFAK doesn’t work! XD
Meanwhile, new post: http://artistryforfeminismandkittens.wordpress.com/2013/01/18/rejoin-the-man-boobz-poster-revolution-the-final-conflict/
In case you didn’t spend enough time on the posters. They still make me laugh so hard.
Of course they do; there’s a whole film and concept album about that sort of thing.
Didn’t… didn’t this story happen, like, two years ago? I’m sure I remember the manosphere getting worked up about Swedish feminists making a “violent” video, and those feminists turning out to be a theatre group nobody had heard of, ages back.
Am I anticipating AVFM in my sleep, or are they recycling?
Don’t know much about Swedish country music, but I like me some Norwegian folk.
Well, this is interesting. http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/losing-my-religion-for-equality-20090714-dk0v.html
An opinion piece by Jimmy Carter (yes that one).
I wonder if it will make a difference, and if so how long it will take. The MRAs I find the most offensive are often the ones who use religion as a justification.
Viola – wasn’t that some video supposedly showing women attacking a man? Something of the dubious-but-satirical variety, I think. Not sure if it had anything to do with the SCUM manifesto or that’s just the MRM conflating them.
Kim – yeah, I was sort of high-fiving Jimmy Carter from a distance when he did that. 🙂
@LBT I know, right? They’re one of my favourite comic (in both senses of the word) duo.
Sorry I usually only lurk but this is the most hilarious thing ever and deserves so much praise !!!!!!! ” Presumably, the Sewdish prime-minister will be arrested as he ceremoniously opens the first camp and immediately imprisoned in it?”
Tigers attacking snowMEN – is there not end to the misandry? lol
http://bbc.in/106Kkbt
Viola, you might be thinking of a different theatre group who put up a monologue based on the SCUM manifest, and made a youtube video advertising it featuring a woman murdering a man. They got tons of death threats from MRA:s, and thanks to that tons of attention they probably wouldn’t have gotten otherwise. Their monologue became a HUGE success and everyone who’s someone had to go see it and celebrate it all over the cultural pages of every newspaper and magazine ever, so this spring they’re giving the monologue again.
Probably not what the MRA hoped for.
Maybe not what the MRAs think they hoped for, but it confirms some of their fears (OMG misandrist culture!!!) and gives them more to whine about, so on some level it really did work out in their favor
@Dvarghundspossen
I thought that the Swedish SCUM theatre group who wrote Chicago was something dreamt up by NWOslave.
Actually, all the hype this play got disturbed me.
Firstly you have male journalists who write super-positive reviews about how they were supposed to sit in a particular men’s department in the theatre while women threw insults at them. Everyone seems to agree that this was a very interesting experience that made you understand what it’s like to be under-privileged, and it wasn’t SERIOUSLY disturbing since after all men have nothing to be afraid of.
I think it’s a fucking insult to my gender that men can react that way… You know, women aren’t dangerous FOR REAL so it’s all just an interesting experience. I mean, the men are RIGHT, it’s not like this theatre group will attack them for real, it’s not like men face the kind of threat from women as a group that women face from men as a group. But this just goes to show how ultimately SILLY it is to do this kind of performance.
I don’t think a member of a privileged group can ever fully understand what it’s like to be a member of an underprivileged group… Like I will never understand what it’s like to be black, for instance. But if you wanna get as near understanding as possible, the best way is probably to watch movies, read blogs and so on written by members of these groups writing about their experiences, and simply TALK to members of these groups about what it’s like. Not put on some stupid show where privileged people sit there and PRETEND for a little while that everything is the other way around and women threaten men in a misandrist society.
Secondly, there are female friends of mine who’ve seen the play and put Solana quotes on their Facebook updates, crap about how women are superior to men because women are naturally peaceful and good while men are EVIL. And I’m like, can’t you see that these quotes you’re squirting out are actually very similar to the crap conservatives have been saying for over a hundred years – how women are BETTER than men, all peaceful and sweet (and therefore they shouldn’t enter the army or big business or politics because in these arenas they’ll just get tainted with the evils of the men)? You hate that crap when it comes from conservatives, so why do you celebrate it when it comes from Solanas?
So, urgh… Haven’t even seen the play (I bet it’s terribly entertaining, since me and Husband watched another play by that same theatre group and it was a riot, so they’re obviously an incredibly talented bunch) but the way people who HAVE seen it TALK about it disturbs me for several reasons.
Which doesn’t make it any more right to threaten members of the theatre group, as MRA:s world-wide has done.
Okay, watched the Skabbteatern video now, linked in this thread. As your resident Swede I’ll explain to you that they don’t say a single word except reciting the names of the people on their “enemy list” from the website. Seems like the message is supposed to be that all these people are a threat to women, and now they’re gonna fight back? Yeah, I think that is disturbing, and wrong. Posing with assault weapons, suggesting that it’s time to “fight back”, and among their supposed enemies are top politicians. Terrorist vibes, anyone? I mean, I hate the government too, but they should be voted out of power.
Plus I don’t really buy this super-strong connection many socialist feminists wanna make between socialism and feminism, between different kinds of oppressions. I don’t think you’re automatically a misogynist because you’re anti-working-class. I think our current government’s policies have hit the working-class and under-class really hard, and if you belong to one of these groups AND are a woman different oppressions will intersect in various ways and make your situation shittier than if you were a working-class man. That said, the government has also, among other things, instigated special programs for supporting female entrepreneurs, they’ve made it easier and cheaper to hire nannies and maids (and this obviously benefits high-earning women more than high-earning men) and they talk about making it mandatory for big business boards to have a certain percentage of women. Seems to me the government are pretty fond of the women in big business and the upper class. “Misogynist” and “anti-feminist” aren’t labels you can stick on anyone you disagree with. Words mean things.
But still, as much as I dislike this video, it’s not like a youtube video posted by a group of completely unknown feminists who hate the government proves that Sweden as a country is misandrist. Nor does it support the interesting theory that we’re just one step away from putting men in concentration camps.
Oh, and finally, the title of the video translates to “you’re a cunt you cunt”. Except being a bit tautological, one might think that it isn’t entirely feminist to refer to people you hate as “cunts”.
@Kim – that op=ed is from 2009.
CWS, Owly thought an American feminist wrote a scene from Chicago that he found on YouTube. Chloe something? It’s on my blog somewhere…
But guys, driversuz admits that she totally made up that weird erotic story about her son:
http://www.avoiceformen.com/women/an-anonymous-letter/
She apparently does have a son, he’s just not as cool as her imaginary son.
Hilarious. Disturbing. Like so much of feMRAdom.
Driversuz made it up – shocked, I’m shocked, I tell you (not really).
@Dvärghundspossen
“Actually, all the hype this play got disturbed me.
Firstly you have male journalists who write super-positive reviews about how they were supposed to sit in a particular men’s department in the theatre while women threw insults at them. Everyone seems to agree that this was a very interesting experience that made you understand what it’s like to be under-privileged….”
Reminds me of a segment from an early Brian De Palma movie called “Hi, Mom,” starring Robert De Niro. The segment’s called “Be Black, Baby” and has a group of Black radicals putting on a play for a WASP audience where they feed the audience soul food, dress them up in shoe polish, and hurl racial slurs and violence at them. Eventually a cop comes in and arrests the white audience in blackface. The audience finds the play a huge success, talking about how they finally know what it’s like to be Black while the performers look on, pretty sure that the audience didn’t learn anything at all.
Mr. Futrelle,
here’s a challenge:
If:
2 + 3 = 10
7 + 2 = 63
6 + 5 = 66
8 + 4 = 96
Then:
9 + 7 = ?
hope you can do better than these guys:
http://glpiggy.net/2013/01/19/toxically-shame-based-white-men/#comment-52912
2x + 3y = 10 ?
Give me a minute to find some paper, mmm, matrix math!
Stoner, You know we can just Google the answer, right? Do you have a point?
Your equations are invalid:
a) 2x + 3y = 10
b) 7x + 2y = 63
c) 6x + 5y = 66
d) 8x + 4y = 96
Divide them all by two:
a) 1x + 1.5y = 5
b) 3.5x + 1y = 31.5
c) 3x + 2.5y = 33
d) 4x + 2y = 48
Add a and c:
4x + 4y = 38
Divide that and d by two:
4x + 4y = 38 becomes 2x + 2y = 19
4x + 2y = 48 becomes 2x + 1y = 24
Subtract:
2x + 2y = 19
2x + 1y = 24
0x + 1y = -5 or rather y = -5
Calculate x using that:
6x + 5(-5) = 66
6x – 25 = 66
6x = 91
x = 15 1/8
Attempt to confirm that on a (or any other):
3(15.167) + 2(-5) = 10
45 3/8 – 10 =/= 10 it equals 35 3/8
So, just what were you going for there?
Cloudiah, I kind of figured it had to be representational, but use some variables then! Wtf he gave is one removed equal sign away from being a matrix!
It’s not really math, it’s just a puzzle. But since all of these puzzles are now on the internet, it’s a fairly stupid one. He could have changed it up some, created his own, but no, this is some lazy trolling.
Speaking of lazy, what am I still doing in my pajamas? It’s almost noon!
Stick some question marks in there, mark it as a logic puzzle, do something to make it not a matrix (I like matrices damnit!)
Yeah I get that, I enjoy breaking stupid math though — it isn’t meant as math, but it’s presented as math, and lack of clarity won’t get you anywhere 🙂
@Cloudiah, RE:DriverSuz
I don’t know why that bit of the admission made me laugh so much…
Oh, really…
@Argenti: it may not just be x and y, there could be other variables in there too. It’s too stupid to be a math puzzle:
only one number appears in more than one equation
there is no logic to explain how the numbers relate to each other algebraically.
MRAs: misunderstanding math as well as logic.
@cloudiah: reading her blurb at the end, it says she’s “married to a very patient man.” Guess she’s the only MRA of the two. /facepalm
@emittnervend: That’s funny! Haven’t seen that movie, but… there was a journalist who actually wrote negatively about the play; he wrote that a theatre group would never get away with doing a play about anti-semitism and place all the Jews in the audience in a special section. Me and Husband discussed that and agreed that it’s not analogous, because Jews aren’t a privileged group… to get a racial/ethnic analogy you gotta imagine an underprivileged group, like, say, black people, setting up a play where they put the white part of the audience in a special department and then throw anti-white racial slurs at them… but coming this far in our musings, we had to agree that we could totally see this happening, and people embracing it. White journalists writing rave-reviews about this wonderful new play that totally gives white people a fresh perspective at racism.
I decided to treat it as a matrix, which should have more columns if ore variables, except it’s apparently:
(2+3)*2=10
Etc, as in (#x + #y) * #x = solution
Except genius here neither marked it as a logic puzzle, nor realized it could be read other ways (I love matrices, I’d take just 2 3 10 really, but I’m weird ^.^ )
@Argenti, it’s one of those “I pulled this maths puzzle out of my arse and you’re all stupid if you can’t work it out.” There’s no talent in creating one of those. Gratz on working it out, though, I was looking at it as simultaneous equations….
Silly maths example:
a “+” b = a^2 + a*b
So 9 “+” 7 = 81 + 63 =144
And being able to solve that charming little puzzle proves what, precisely?
@titianblue: you win! I’m not sure what you win, but you win!!!!ELEVENTY!1!!!
Damn, ninja’d by Argenti.
Thanks, Kiwi Girl, I’ll take a magical pug to go, please.
@Dvärghundspossen
That has to be the stupidest argument against the play (the critic’s that is, not you and your husband’s). Like you said, it would have to be the antisemites that are in a special section in order for it to be analogous. Clearly the critic missed the whole point of the play in the first place, though I do agree with you about the inefficacy of putting men in a special section and hurling invectives at them, not least because they are there voluntarily.
Re: Driversuz
Did anyone actually understand the point of that article? Because that blurb just confused the shit out of me. “I’m here to defend this cardboard cutout of men because it can’t defend itself (probably because it’s made of cardboard)” :S I mean, it was ridiculous enough when we thought it was actually about her son.
I can do our troll one better:
If a tree falls in the forest, and then bounces back up as a joke, do the squirrels freak out?
(Due credit – I stole that from a greeting card)
Yeah, Shadow, except I’d add “I’m here to defend this cardboard cutout of men by attacking cardboard cutouts of women.” And what does it say that she doesn’t think her actual son is worthy of being written about?
What was the point of all that supposed maths bonehead posted? People who can do maths/logic puzzles tore it apart, those who can’t simply ignored it and said he was trying (unsuccessfully, evidently) a wanky little show-off again.
I think the answer is supposed to be “gross”… (nine squared plus nine sevens)
Not much of a challenge, seeing as the use of the plus operand was clearly not functioning as addition, so other guesses swiftly pointed to the answer. Would have been more interesting in a non-standard base, just to fuck with people’s heads (but all 10 normal digits were obviously in play also). Disappointingly simple, meh. What was this supposed to demonstrate, again?
Maths! It’s science! 🙂
Nah, that bonehead is a wannabe maths snob/wit. He fails on both counts.
More interesting than him, I just saw that the beautiful Jon Finch has passed over – did anyone see him as MacBeth in Polanski’s film, or as Henry IV in the BBC’s Shakespeare cycle? Vale to a fine actor.