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Scary news from A Voice for Men. On their front page right now:

AVFMswedenisgermany

So Sweden is Nazi Germany?

This is a little confusing to me, because, according to what I’ve always considered the most trusted and reliable source of Swedish information, Sweden is actually Napoleonic France.

Unfortunately, my only other real source for information on Sweden is not much help either, as it seems to suggest that Sweden is … the Mojave desert?

 

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titianblue
titianblue
7 years ago

Isn’t bring “on the warpath against hate” a good thing?

titianblue
titianblue
7 years ago

^ “being” not “bring” (damn you, autocorrect!)

MorkaisChosen
MorkaisChosen
7 years ago

Anyone got a source for any actual basis behind the AVfM post?

titianblue
titianblue
7 years ago

Apparently, AVfM objects to a youtube video.

titianblue
titianblue
7 years ago

First step a youtube video naming 14 alleged misogynists, next step genocide. *rolls eyes*

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
7 years ago

Only an MRA could frame “on the warpath against hate” as a terrible thing that’s exactly like what the Nazis did. I mean, I know most of them aren’t very smart, but you’d think the irony there would be obvious to anyone.

titianblue
titianblue
7 years ago

The article says that one of the 14 alleged misogynists named is the Swedish prime-minister.

So the leader of the government run by feminists is being denounced by feminists which means the country run by the government run by feminists yet led by the guy denounced by the feminists is going to introduce misandrist internment camps to imprison the alleged misogynists denounced by feminists. Mmmm.

Presumably, the Sewdish prime-minister will be arrested as he ceremoniously opens the first camp and immediately imprisoned in it?

I need a drink …

Jadehawk
7 years ago

MorkaisChosen, I think it’s about this: http://skabbteatern.se/
not being a Swedish-speaker, and not being able to watch video on my netbook, I have no comment about it, though.

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
7 years ago

@titanblue and to add to your comments, “open warfare” appears to mean “a YouTube video is posted”. Yep, that was WWII, people posting opposing videos on YouTube.

We will fight them in the audio, we will fight them in the video, we will fight them in the comments We will never surrender!

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
7 years ago

Mind bleach: and now I kind of wish I was playing World of Warcraft again, an ingame pet kitten! http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100002356

Carleyblue
Carleyblue
7 years ago

Wait, AVFM published people’s routes home from work?!

titianblue
titianblue
7 years ago

Does Pierre know that Poutine is moonlighting on WoW?

Zygar
7 years ago

Google Translate gives the following as the text of the site Jadehawk mentioned:

[quote]Open Letter

————————————————– ——————————

Scabies Theatre initiated the short film You email a pussy your pussy because we felt a strong need to visualize that there exists a conflict between women who fight for their rights – that feminists – and men who hate women. What makes this conflict so incredibly frustrating is that one side – the opponents of women and their rights – neither would agree that they are a united group with power or even acknowledge that the conflict exists. Of course, so is the ability to define a conflict as a non-conflict or problem as a non-issue, something that can only exist because of the precedence of that group actually based on his position of power.

At the same time it becomes misogyny in society are just more and more and ever more virulent in their attacks on the group of people at all dare to draw attention to the power structure that exists.

The question then becomes: How the hell should I be able to reason with people who do not even want to admit that there is something to talk about?

We did not select the eighteen persons we name in the movie because they are the only people who hate and oppose feminists, but to show that they share the same view, even if their methods are different.

You email a pussy your pussy is not a declaration of war, it is a response to the war that has been with us ever since we began to open our mouth and our message is simple: anyone who disagrees with us can go to hell. We no longer have the urge to coddle the empire of misogynistic, racist and capitalist pig that oppresses us brides and others in the community to try to prove to them that we are worth something.

Neither do we intend to give them the privilege to define how we should react to their oppression, which affects us very personal in our lives. We have every right to be angry, and we get it right without the obligation of having to explain to us idiots who are not interested in re-evaluating their perception of women or gender. This has never been about lack of information.

We want to initiate a real debate about the reality in Sweden where you can not just chatter away completely unacceptable values ​​and a putrid humanity. People who actually have the power to not escape the core of their actions by pointless empty phrases as the “cares about people” when their actual actions show that they despise all what humanity is. Man has no right to call themselves “feminist” if you do not lift a finger to improve the situation of women or even actively work against women. We have a responsibility to stand up for what we think is right, even if it is uncomfortable.

We want to use this also to reach out to all who openly dared criticize misogyny, racism, fascism and nationalism. We want to form a united front where we have had enough of the current trend towards an inhumane society know that we can count on each other’s support. The more we are, and the more public space we get together to fight against these atrocities, we can make it clear once and for all that we do not accept what those bastards do.
[/quote]

Creative Writing Student

It looks like a dinky Poutine but made of MAGMA!

(Clearly, molten rock is now misandry. Adorable, adorable kitty-shaped misandry.)

freitag235
freitag235
7 years ago

I’m surprised that AVfM hasn’t raged against misandric answering machines and caller ID that makes life tougher on obscene phone callers. They’re up in arms about everything else.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
7 years ago

Tremble, mortal menz! Lo, for soon the strings shall be cut, and all ninety nine of Sweden’s Red Balloons will go by! The living shall envy the dead, making it very awkward for the dead to share their vacation photos with the living!

FEAR SWEDEN!

bookdragonette
bookdragonette
7 years ago

@Kiwi Girl, that’s one cute kitty! Makes me wish I played WoW…

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
7 years ago

@Tulgey: now the sexrobot song has been replaced in my head by 99 Luftballoons. I don’t know whether to thank you or just bang my head slowly against my computer desk.

titianblue
titianblue
7 years ago

I think Pierre needs to receive some MRA rants on his voicemail.

Dvärghundspossen
7 years ago

I skimmed through their list of people they consider enemies and why. There’s two famous Swedish MRA:s, some Swedish right-wing politicians (including the prime minister) since they’re apparently socialists as well and think socialism and feminism connects, some convicted rapists, convicted mass murderer Breivik, and a couple of judges who trivialises violence against women.

Plus, I’m a Swedish feminist who follow the general debate, and I’d never heard about these women before, so it’s not like they’re an influential group in society. They seem to be an independent theatre group.

cloudiah
7 years ago

I keep forgetting that I installed a Leech-Block folder called “rage inducers” and every time I absent-mindedly think about checking out AVfM it redirects me to A Voice for Pierre — it’s a surprise every time, since I have the world’s worst memory! And hey, I just noticed that Pierre and my blog have their own extra special place (“More Man Boobzy Fun”) over there on the sidebar. We’ve arrived! Yonkers!

cloudiah
7 years ago

So now I’ve watched the video. I have a big problem with the gun imagery too, though I’m sure the AVfMers are losing their shit in ways that are way out of proportion to reality, as usual… (Any funny comments yet?) And you’re right to note that the women have more guns pointed at them than vice-versa.

Just to save people looking for it, here is the website and here is the Google translated “Open Letter” that goes along with the video:

Scabies Theatre initiated the short film You email a pussy your pussy because we felt a strong need to visualize that there exists a conflict between women who fight for their rights – that feminists – and men who hate women. What makes this conflict so incredibly frustrating is that one side – the opponents of women and their rights – neither would agree that they are a united group with power or even acknowledge that the conflict exists. Of course, so is the ability to define a conflict as a non-conflict or problem as a non-issue, something that can only exist because of the precedence of that group actually based on his position of power.

At the same time it becomes misogyny in society are just more and more and ever more virulent in their attacks on the group of people at all dare to draw attention to the power structure that exists.

The question then becomes: How the hell should I be able to reason with people who do not even want to admit that there is something to talk about?

We did not select the eighteen persons we name in the movie because they are the only people who hate and oppose feminists, but to show that they share the same view, even if their methods are different.

You email a pussy your pussy is not a declaration of war, it is a response to the war that has been with us ever since we began to open our mouth and our message is simple: anyone who disagrees with us can go to hell. We no longer have the urge to coddle the empire of misogynistic, racist and capitalist pig that oppresses us brides and others in the community to try to prove to them that we are worth something.

Neither do we intend to give them the privilege to define how we should react to their oppression, which affects us very personal in our lives. We have every right to be angry, and we get it right without the obligation of having to explain to us idiots who are not interested in re-evaluating their perception of women or gender. This has never been about lack of information.

We want to initiate a real debate about the reality in Sweden where you can not just chatter away completely unacceptable values ​​and a putrid humanity. People who actually have the power to not escape the core of their actions by pointless empty phrases as the “cares about people” when their actual actions show that they despise all what humanity is. Man has no right to call themselves “feminist” if you do not lift a finger to improve the situation of women or even actively work against women. We have a responsibility to stand up for what we think is right, even if it is uncomfortable.

We want to use this also to reach out to all who openly dared criticize misogyny, racism, fascism and nationalism. We want to form a united front where we have had enough of the current trend towards an inhumane society know that we can count on each other’s support. The more we are, and the more public space we get together to fight against these atrocities, we can make it clear once and for all that we do not accept what those bastards do.

hellkell
hellkell
7 years ago

frietag, I actually got a weird crank call at 1:30 AM a few weeks ago that caller ID showed to be coming from … an AVFM contributor. I let it go through to voicemail and he left a weird message, which I of course have an MP3 of. Maybe I should post it.

A transcript, at least. Holy shit. They are so immature.

freitag235
freitag235
7 years ago

Oh, fuck. Please do post the freaky crank call, please.

I had a cow-orker [sic] who kept getting obscene calls on her cell, back when they were fairly new. Finally she put him on speaker and let the whole department hear the sicko while he did his thing. We were all vewwy, vewwy quiet while he did his thing, then cheered and laughed and gave him a round of applause when it sounded like he was getting close.

She never heard from him again. Let’s hear it for caller ID and voicemail.

Falconer
7 years ago

OK, I’m breaking down and admitting I don’t get the joke in the title.

MordsithJ
7 years ago

It’s an ABBA thing.

ec
ec
7 years ago

So being “on the warpath against hate” is somehow an attack on MRA’s, does that mean they’re openly admitting they’re a hate movement?

Integral
Integral
7 years ago

I am overamused by ABBA jokes.

Karalora
Karalora
7 years ago

I feel like I should comment on this with something from the webcomic Scandinavia and the World, but I can’t decide what. A point-by-point compare/contrast between Sweden and Nazi Germany? Sister Sweden with her “Strap-On of Women’s Rights”? I just don’t know!

Creative Writing Student

I have that poster! I need to put it up somewhere…

Falconer
7 years ago

Okay, that explains it. I have this mid-70s shaped hole in my music experience.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

I think Pierre needs to receive some MRA rants on his voicemail.

Does Poutine turn into RAGE MAGMA KITTEH if she hears those messages?

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
7 years ago

Kitteh: that is an o-for-awesome idea. 🙂

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

Merci madame! 🙂

clairedammit
clairedammit
7 years ago

I haven’t read the post or comments, but I’m assuming this is an open thread for videos of our favorite Swedish bands, right? RIGHT?

(When we get back from dinner I promise to read this and say something relevant.)

cloudiah
7 years ago

That’s okay, I love Jose Gonzalez!

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
7 years ago

Kitteh: you had me confused there, but then I realised you were using the British definition of dinner. 🙂

Drew
Drew
7 years ago

Why does everyone post the Jose Gonzales one? He’s covering the Knife! Not the other way around. Arrrghhh.

Karalora
Karalora
7 years ago

@CWS

I’m glad I’m not the only one around here who reads that webcomic! My LEGO creations, let me show you them!

http://karalora.deviantart.com/art/LEGO-Nordic-panorama-348166945

Creative Writing Student

@Karalora

Aww! Those are really really cute.

(Hehe, Iceland’s volcano and demon pet…)

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
7 years ago

@Karalora: I see you are continuing the trend of super-talented feminists. 🙂

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

RE: bookdragonette

TED AND BOOSTER! WOOOOOO!

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
7 years ago

I was not expecting a Swedish country-rock song about Emmylou Harris and Gram Parsons.

Ha! NOBODY expects the Spanish– er, Swedish country-rock musicians!

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
7 years ago

OMG, the LEGO SATW! You are fucking amazing! *chokes in creative envy*

Myoo
Myoo
7 years ago

@Karalora
SATW LEGO figs, that is awesome, they really look like them.

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