Scary news from A Voice for Men. On their front page right now:
So Sweden is Nazi Germany?
This is a little confusing to me, because, according to what I’ve always considered the most trusted and reliable source of Swedish information, Sweden is actually Napoleonic France.
Unfortunately, my only other real source for information on Sweden is not much help either, as it seems to suggest that Sweden is … the Mojave desert?
Isn’t bring “on the warpath against hate” a good thing?
^ “being” not “bring” (damn you, autocorrect!)
Anyone got a source for any actual basis behind the AVfM post?
Apparently, AVfM objects to a youtube video.
First step a youtube video naming 14 alleged misogynists, next step genocide. *rolls eyes*
Only an MRA could frame “on the warpath against hate” as a terrible thing that’s exactly like what the Nazis did. I mean, I know most of them aren’t very smart, but you’d think the irony there would be obvious to anyone.
The article says that one of the 14 alleged misogynists named is the Swedish prime-minister.
So the leader of the government run by feminists is being denounced by feminists which means the country run by the government run by feminists yet led by the guy denounced by the feminists is going to introduce misandrist internment camps to imprison the alleged misogynists denounced by feminists. Mmmm.
Presumably, the Sewdish prime-minister will be arrested as he ceremoniously opens the first camp and immediately imprisoned in it?
I need a drink …
MorkaisChosen, I think it’s about this: http://skabbteatern.se/
not being a Swedish-speaker, and not being able to watch video on my netbook, I have no comment about it, though.
I looked at the video and the website, and read the google translation of it (which actually seemed fairly clear, esp for a google translation). While I think the gun imagery in the video is deeply problematic, especially with the list of names, the video did not threaten, and most of the guns in the video were actually being pointed at the women in it, to suggest that feminists in sweden are the victims of misogynists.
There’s more than a teensy bit of irony in this video being criticized by a website whose favorite slogan is “fuck their shit up,” which posts a literal terrorist manifesto advocating burning down govt buildings in its activism pages, and which not only names the names of its enemies but also provides personal information (and threatens to reveal not only addresses of women they don’t like but also their routes home from work).
@titanblue and to add to your comments, “open warfare” appears to mean “a YouTube video is posted”. Yep, that was WWII, people posting opposing videos on YouTube.
We will fight them in the audio, we will fight them in the video, we will fight them in the comments We will never surrender!
Mind bleach: and now I kind of wish I was playing World of Warcraft again, an ingame pet kitten! http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100002356
Wait, AVFM published people’s routes home from work?!
Does Pierre know that Poutine is moonlighting on WoW?
Google Translate gives the following as the text of the site Jadehawk mentioned:
[quote]Open Letter
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Scabies Theatre initiated the short film You email a pussy your pussy because we felt a strong need to visualize that there exists a conflict between women who fight for their rights – that feminists – and men who hate women. What makes this conflict so incredibly frustrating is that one side – the opponents of women and their rights – neither would agree that they are a united group with power or even acknowledge that the conflict exists. Of course, so is the ability to define a conflict as a non-conflict or problem as a non-issue, something that can only exist because of the precedence of that group actually based on his position of power.
At the same time it becomes misogyny in society are just more and more and ever more virulent in their attacks on the group of people at all dare to draw attention to the power structure that exists.
The question then becomes: How the hell should I be able to reason with people who do not even want to admit that there is something to talk about?
We did not select the eighteen persons we name in the movie because they are the only people who hate and oppose feminists, but to show that they share the same view, even if their methods are different.
You email a pussy your pussy is not a declaration of war, it is a response to the war that has been with us ever since we began to open our mouth and our message is simple: anyone who disagrees with us can go to hell. We no longer have the urge to coddle the empire of misogynistic, racist and capitalist pig that oppresses us brides and others in the community to try to prove to them that we are worth something.
Neither do we intend to give them the privilege to define how we should react to their oppression, which affects us very personal in our lives. We have every right to be angry, and we get it right without the obligation of having to explain to us idiots who are not interested in re-evaluating their perception of women or gender. This has never been about lack of information.
We want to initiate a real debate about the reality in Sweden where you can not just chatter away completely unacceptable values and a putrid humanity. People who actually have the power to not escape the core of their actions by pointless empty phrases as the “cares about people” when their actual actions show that they despise all what humanity is. Man has no right to call themselves “feminist” if you do not lift a finger to improve the situation of women or even actively work against women. We have a responsibility to stand up for what we think is right, even if it is uncomfortable.
We want to use this also to reach out to all who openly dared criticize misogyny, racism, fascism and nationalism. We want to form a united front where we have had enough of the current trend towards an inhumane society know that we can count on each other’s support. The more we are, and the more public space we get together to fight against these atrocities, we can make it clear once and for all that we do not accept what those bastards do.
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It looks like a dinky Poutine but made of MAGMA!
(Clearly, molten rock is now misandry. Adorable, adorable kitty-shaped misandry.)
I’m surprised that AVfM hasn’t raged against misandric answering machines and caller ID that makes life tougher on obscene phone callers. They’re up in arms about everything else.
Tremble, mortal menz! Lo, for soon the strings shall be cut, and all ninety nine of Sweden’s Red Balloons will go by! The living shall envy the dead, making it very awkward for the dead to share their vacation photos with the living!
FEAR SWEDEN!
@Kiwi Girl, that’s one cute kitty! Makes me wish I played WoW…
Carley, no, but Paul gleefully talked about his plans to do that on his “radio” show when register-her first started. I guess cooler heads prevailed.
frietag, I actually got a weird crank call at 1:30 AM a few weeks ago that caller ID showed to be coming from … an AVFM contributor. I let it go through to voicemail and he left a weird message, which I of course have an MP3 of. Maybe I should post it.
@Tulgey: now the sexrobot song has been replaced in my head by 99 Luftballoons. I don’t know whether to thank you or just bang my head slowly against my computer desk.
I think Pierre needs to receive some MRA rants on his voicemail.
I skimmed through their list of people they consider enemies and why. There’s two famous Swedish MRA:s, some Swedish right-wing politicians (including the prime minister) since they’re apparently socialists as well and think socialism and feminism connects, some convicted rapists, convicted mass murderer Breivik, and a couple of judges who trivialises violence against women.
Plus, I’m a Swedish feminist who follow the general debate, and I’d never heard about these women before, so it’s not like they’re an influential group in society. They seem to be an independent theatre group.
I keep forgetting that I installed a Leech-Block folder called “rage inducers” and every time I absent-mindedly think about checking out AVfM it redirects me to A Voice for Pierre — it’s a surprise every time, since I have the world’s worst memory! And hey, I just noticed that Pierre and my blog have their own extra special place (“More Man Boobzy Fun”) over there on the sidebar. We’ve arrived! Yonkers!
So now I’ve watched the video. I have a big problem with the gun imagery too, though I’m sure the AVfMers are losing their shit in ways that are way out of proportion to reality, as usual… (Any funny comments yet?) And you’re right to note that the women have more guns pointed at them than vice-versa.
Just to save people looking for it, here is the website and here is the Google translated “Open Letter” that goes along with the video:
A transcript, at least. Holy shit. They are so immature.