Time for another peek into the Man Boobz “Trash” folder!
Regular commenters here may have come across the comments of an MRA/MGTOWer calling himself justeunperdant, who has graced the comments section here with sarcastic if often quite surreal remarks which are enhanced, I feel, by his poor command of the English language.
Here’s one of his perplexing little gems (and no, it doesn’t make any more sense in context):
Here’s one that’s slightly less perplexing, though it seems to be based on the notion that Title IX isn’t a law but is actually the name of some dude:
But what you don’t realize is that not all of Mr. justeunperdant’s comments see the light of day. For example, several days ago he tried to post the following comment:
The problem here wasn’t the comment itself, which is fairly typical of MRAs who visit the site; it was that he attached a video that evidently showed pictures of Jodi Arias, now on trial for the murder of her boyfriend, dragging around his dead body. Not particularly wanting such a graphic video up on Man Boobz, I sent justeunperdant’s comment to the trash.
This made him mad:
I didn’t let that one through either. He keeps posting comments; I keep tossing them in the trash.
When MRAs suggest I delete comments because I “can’t handle the truth,” this is the sort of “truth” they’re talking about.
@atomicgrizzly
I think most of real life is inconvenient for MRAs.
🙂 Yep, good point. And also, I forgot to mention that elitistjerks came out a few years ago, but wasn’t available for the first couple of years of playing. That website has all the theorycraft of builds, mainly dps, including what stats to prioritise. So it’s player builds for dummies, with loads of excel-based simulations to back up the numbers. These guys just tend to run cookie-cutter builds now.
Back before gems, jewelcrafting, and the freaking ability to change stats on your items, we just had what dropped/was enchanted/could be made. And when I played dps in a dungeon or raid, I had to worry about where I thought I was on the dps table, because there wasn’t any addon that told me when I was going to hit the top and draw aggro.
So yeah, he’s an all round awesome WOW player.
“I think most of real life is inconvenient for MRAs.”
Agreed. On the upside, it looks like Mr. Vince (the Kotaku MRA troll) is getting torn up in the comments section of the article.
http://kotaku.com/5975038/cosplayers-are-passionate-talented-folks-but-theres-a-darker-side-to-this-community-too
It truly is a beautiful thing!
I think this would be hilarious, if impractical idea for a Pierre comic:
Justeun starts rambling at Pierre in clumsy, incoherent English, with a noticeable Quebecois accent.
After responding politely for a while, Pierre switches the conversation into French (he’s fully bilingual of course) in order to get better sense.
Turns out Justeun’s rambling in his native language is equally clumsy and incoherent.
As a desperate last resort, Pierre asks, “Um, do you speak Ojibwe?” in that language.
“Male feminists know this, which is why they choose to betray their brothers by siding with the evil feminist harpies.”
Clearly. It’s not like we do this because we actually care about other people,
“Turns out Justeun’s rambling in his native language is equally clumsy and incoherent”
Brilliant. I want to see this.
I’ll take the nerf, thanks. Cata killed our casual raiding group. Too many buggy one-shots, too much heavy group damage, and too little healing throughput. Quit for a full year before the panda people brought me back.
It’s a great idea, but we’d need a bilingual author.
@atomicgrizzly
I love that the article discusses the assholes as being part of the community instead of defining them out the way some discussions do. The more communities acknowledge that they have bad elements, the better they can demand a minimum standard of decency that will hopefully improve the community overall.
Katz, I agree. He’s too nonsensical to be anything other than an inside joke.
Kiwi girl, your bread looks delicious, especially sliced.
Some Gal, I just read your handle as “Some Gal Not Bread At All” and thought “but why not be bread. It’s delicious!”
@Cata, with the nerfing they changed the dynamics in fights, especially boss fights. Basically, the game became gear-dependent: without top-end gear, you can’t survive. Before, it was planning and gear wasn’t so important so long as the tank was sufficiently protected (although Molten Core meant fire resist was extremely important). So casual gaming was a lot easier IMO in the earlier versions of the game, because you could have fun without most/all the top end gear. However, I was pleased to see the back-end of 40-person raids as they were too hard to organise when most people you play with are casual.
I’m not conflating casual gamers and “not being good at the game”, everyone I played with was casual. And (1) the change from a healing/mana pot timer to only-one-allowed-per-fight combined with (2) super heavy damage on the tank so dps were pretty much left to fend for themselves were awful changes with Cata. Particularly as these came in simultaneously with the focus on gear, and with a new release everyone is “under geared”.
So please don’t take my comment as a negative directed at casual gamers, IMO that’s where most of the money is at, and I’m happy being extremely casual in Guild Wars 2. But anyone who sets themselves up as an “uber gamer” but runs heaps of on-screen assistance and is using a class that is pretty bloody easy to play and put out huge amounts of dps without blinking to gank other players is fair game. Which is not you. 🙂
Gah, obviously I meant @leftwingfox. Clearly I have not had enough caffeine this morning… trotting off to make another cup,
Ugh, I had to lash out at one of the guys responding to him. Of course he pushed all the same bullshit memes that we just read in David’s previous post. Video games are a “male space” that is being “invaded” by women who demand to have their “special interests” catered to.
Um, no. We just want to be able to play all the games that you’re playing without someone trying to squeeze our tits all the time.
I kind of figured that Kiki, no worries. You’re also right that I don’t make a big deal out of how “Hardcore” I am, or exclude women from that category at all.
I’ve been playing since Vanilla, but hit 60 within a month of Burning Crusade, so never dealt much with raiding before Karazhan. My guild-mates consider me to be a pretty kick-ass resto shaman, although the Healbot add-on is pretty much a necessity for me. I’m fumble-fingered, and Healbot lets me focus on the healing choices, not the finger-placements.
The one thing from the original game that I’m really glad they changed for the easier was the cross-realm dungeon/raid finder. Even getting a dungeon run together was a challenge, let alone a 25-40 man raid, where you’d spend 30 minutes between 2-minute battles replacing all the people who decided to leave.
Yeah, no kidding. I escaped a lot of this when I started playing WoW; while I was playing a female character, It was a tauren in a good guild which tries to be a haven from the sexism, racism and homophobia elsewhere.
Playing a female human… worse, a dark-skinned woman, on an RP server was some of the most eye-opening bullshit I’ve ever had to deal with. To this day, I think “RP” stands for “Racist Prick” server. 🙁
@leftwing fox, I like Kiki 🙂 Do you run mouse-over macros with Healbot? Before I quit, my main was a holy pally, and I used Healbot in combination with mouse-over macros. That meant I could mouse over the Healbot icon, or the player, and the heal would hit.
I had to be holy pally spec in MC. 2 hours of just doing cleanse on the raid party. /eyeroll
I think being bad at a game and being casual at that game goes hand in hand, actually. A casual player might be a natural, or you can certainly congratulate them on picking up stuff quickly, but there’s always going to be a skill differential there that exists just through sheer practice and play time alone.
But my issue with video gaming is that as a community it has an elitist bent where you don’t have a right to play if you’re not hardcore. Like, of course the fact I play Call of Duty: MW3 only when I am at my brother’s house (ultra casual) while he plays it a few hours a week (which does not even remotedly makes him hardcore for that game, and that’s pretty much the only game he plays) means I *suck* royally at it. It’s the same with pool or fooball, if I’m at a bar and I play it I’m happy to just get the ball in the hole through pure happen stance, nevermind doing called shots and tricks shots and stuff. But nobody will call me a noob or an idiot and insult me non-stop or harass me offline just because I didn’t spend 20 hours every week for years playing pool (I might get the stink eye if there’s some of the regular pool players waiting for a table because two pool noobs playing takes about the same time as three games for them).
Magic: The Gathering tournament play is the same. The game for me scores a B+ at best on gameplay, but the community around it turns it into a C at best and often times for me a D. I’ve been playing a lot of Duel of the Planeswalkers lately because
a) I don’t need to spend 500$ on a deck every couple months
b) I can mute the asshats
I know a lot of wannabe pro Magic players who hate DotP because it’s ‘dumbed down’ and they think that playing with the crappy cards makes it too luck driven. That must be why I have over a 90% win ratio… (I think I’m in the top ten percentile of Magic players worldwide… the problem is that Magic is so popular that being better than 90% of players still isn’t good enough to put you on the Pro Tour).
“RP” purists on MMOs are practically the only group that beat the hardcore elitist competitive gamers at being asshats who think everyone should play just like them or they’re doing it wrong.
Kiwi girl: Whoops! So sorry!
Actually, I don’t, they’re still key-modified mouse-cicks. The only Macro I use regularly (outside of focus casting of Purge or Wind Shear) is my “Panic Macro”, which pops any usable trinkets, casts Nature’s Swiftness, then cracks off my most powerful heal, before causing my character to yell “YIPE!”.
Of course, in a real emergency that would usually get spammed a couple times, resulting in me yelling “YIPE! YIPE! YIPE!”, to everyone’s amusement.
That Kotaku MRA posted another blog entry. He’s going berserk over the comments to his post on Kotaku ans yelling at some probably imaginary people via blog:
“I’m also so sick of being discriminated against because I’m a white male! I went outside to check on that banging sound and I swear I heard someone run off. It’s probably some neighborhood kids that think it’s funny to pick on the white guy. Listen up: we don’t have it easy, alright? Think about it before you all decide to gang up on us! All of our lives aren’t paradise!
To the people outside my house: leave me alone!”
“It’s a great idea, but we’d need a bilingual author.”
And tri-lingual readers! (Unless you could do the scroll-over thingy like xckd with the translations)
This reminds me of a guy from Mexico I used to work with, he was like the Spanish Mush-Mouth. Super-nice guy, really helpful, but a day’s work to understand him. His Spanish-speaking buddies said he was just as Mush-Mouth in Spanish.
@BlackBloc
I think this point is less relevant where (1) the difference between gear obtained through casual gaming and gear obtained through end-game raiding makes the difference and NOT skill and (2) skill is conflated with being able to complete end-game raids. So much of WOW become gear-dependent, especially in Cata, that casual gamers were ejected from pick-up-groups for not having a “high enough gear score”. Gear quality =/= player ability, especially for casual gamers who don’t have 6 hours every day to run repeatedly through raids to get the bloody gear.
When I did raiding, in vanilla, BC, and Cata, I had to devote 4 hours a time, same time, same bat channel, to each raid I signed up for with my guild. People who couldn’t be there consistently got replaced, especially dps. And they were casual guilds, And yeah, raid progression was slow because we were all casuals with jobs and real lives, so the gear replacements came slow. But it was frustrating to play in a game where we were all good players, but gear consistently held us back.
So I disagree with your contention that casual gamers cannot be good players. I’ve seen loads of evidence to the contrary. It doesn’t take that much time to learn a skill rotation, especially with loads of websites and addons to help you now. I’ve seen “l33t” dps players keep standing in AOEs because as I healer I “should” be able to heal them and the tank through boss fights,and they don’t want to lose their position on the dps table. Yeah right.
@leftwingfox, there are so many options on how you want to use your interface, that whatever works for you is the best solution. 🙂
In my old vanilla WOW guild, the guild leader got a little annoyed as I macro’d the text “Hesione is out of mana, your ass is grass” to come up when I hit a button, to let people know I was OOM. It did, however, get them to pay more attention than /oom.
LOL.
New AVfP!
Claire: 1) Never say I don’t love you because I rotoscoped you an elaborate background, and 2) I need a blurb so I can put you on the cast page.
Hooray, a new cartoon (is that the term for them?) 🙂
And for BlackBloc: in those fights which require an action to be performed in milliseconds to stop a damaging effect, they’re suboptimal for players coming in from countries like Australia or New Zealand where your ping is 200ms or more. Your reaction time has to be exponentially better in order to prevent the action. Some people have older computers where loads of AOEs, etc, mean their frames per second drop below 20. They may need to minimise things like spell detail just so they stay connected. In sum, there are loads of factors that influence how “well” someone plays in a game, besides “how good” they are. In many situations “how good” they are has little bearing on outcomes.