So over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, the top post at the moment (with more than 370 net upvotes) is a link to this image:
If I might hazard a guess: that’s because IT HAS YOU NUMBSKULLS.
Sigh. Let’s look at a little chart showing the striking decline in the incidence of rape we’ve seen in the last 30 years.
This is based on data from the National Crime Victimization Survey. Some have criticized the survey’s methodology and say that it undercounts the incidence of rape, but even if that is true, the trend is clear: Rape has declined significantly over the past three decades, and I think it’s fairly obvious that increased awareness and understanding of rape, largely the result of feminist anti-rape campaigns, has contributed significantly to this decline.
Naturally, those who tried to point this out in r/mensrights found themselves downvoted.
It’s a shame, because David Wong’s fiction writing is good. He should stick to that.
Oh, that is way longer on the blog than it looked on my screen when I typed it. Sorry if it comes across as a screed or spiel, it wasn’t meant to.
CassandraSays: Yes, that.
This is exactly the same conversation as the one about how sometimes women have to walk alone at night, because they have work, or whatever. It’s trying to prove that we have Really Good Reasons for doing something that we have every right to do.
Lifts are a labour-saving device. They are also an accessibility aid, but just because you can take the stairs doesn’t mean you have to. If I use the lift because I feel like taking the easy route, I damn well can.
That was @atomicgrizzly not you, Kiwi Girl. I would love an internet scone. Thanks.
Anyone else having sudden images of low-riding wheelchairs with dancing hydraulics, neon trim and a hemi?
Care to point me to the part where he says that everyone has value and should be treated as a human being? Because what he actually says is this:
And this:
And this:
And this:
Etc, etc.
And it’s factually, provably false because I am a counterexample.
It sounds like that guy has a particularly severe case of Internet Hyperbole Syndrome.
Most Cracked articles that try to tackle real life are very hyperbolic. I don’t like those articles for that reason.
@Some girl
http://littlemissbaker19.blogspot.co.nz/2010/05/cheesy-scones.html but mainly for the photo. 🙂 I used the Edmonds Cookbook recipe (probably most popular and oldest cookbook in continuous print in NZ).
Oh, and I forgot one thing from my list earlier, *it is none of their business*.
Would you like some coffee, tea, or chai with your scone?
Maybe the person has an elevator fetish and wants the ride the damn thing all day long! Still don’t care, as long as other people can use it when they want or need to.
Arizona’s “show me your papers” law twigged that feeling in me. You have a right to walk on the street. While brown. Without a wallet. Why not?
@Kiwi Girl
Those look awesome! (You should stack them like that. Scone towers are apparently awesome!)
The last one “it’s none of their business” is why I tend not to challenge excuses. Most of thee time if challenging the excuse matters, it is because the excuse is irrelevant anyway. I think that is more useful. (When I taught math, I heard all kinds of excuses, many of them were lies. Since I can only suspect why they were lying, I just accepted the excuse when it was something that could be excused and pointed out why there were no exceptions/excuses when it wasn’t.)
@katz
Yeah, that article set me off.
I mean, “the world only cares about what it can get from you” is sorta true, maybe. But it’s not just good chilli et cetera, it’s if you’re a genuinely nice person then people will want to hang with you because they care about getting the enjoyment of your company. That’s something they get from you. And it’s far more valuable than good chilli. (Even though good chilli is pretty damn worthwhile in my book. 😛 I just wouldn’t hang with a good chilli-maker if I didn’t also enjoy their company.)
Unfortunately my brain didn’t let me remember that when I read that article.
Dude is projecting like woah too. Maybe he and his group of friends actually are that utilitarian. That doesn’t mean that everyone else is.
Also, relevant to the discussion in the other thread, I have a really hard time not rolling my eyes when people do that faux-jaded thing. I think it comes right after reading Rand in the development cycle of the pretentious libertarian asshole.
Talking of medical aids being fashionable, did you see these? Why can’t every medical aid be as fabulous? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19477930
It’s just an excuse to cast oneself as the morally superior one when one is actually being morally execrable, isn’t it? “Everyone is this selfish; I’m just honest enough to admit it.” No, dude. Not everyone is that selfish.
It’s also really fucking lazy, intellectually speaking.
@titianblue
Fuck yes, those are fabulous.
@CassandraSays
I’m actually kinda jaded. It comes from some mental issues. Somehow, I still think there’s love, hope, and happiness in the world.
Titianblue, that is gorgeous. I’m reminded of the amputee who received the mermaid tail from WETA.
Ethically too. Being a good person is hard. That doesn’t mean you just shrug your shoulders and go “why bother?”.
Those people aren’t actually jaded, they’re just pretending to be because they think it makes them look cool, and because it lets them of the hook in all kinds of ways.
I have a really hard time not rolling my eyes when people do that faux-jaded thing.
This a hojillion times. I thought we were supposed to hate hipsters. That’s the meme, right, that hipsters are bad? Isn’t this what they do?
@Some Gal I like the point you raise about whether to challenge excuses or not. I suppose it comes down to what outcome one would like. 🙂
This always springs to mind when encountering self-appointed arbiters:
Matthew 7:3 “And why dost thou behold the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, and the beam that is in thine own eye dost not consider?”
So yes, I can cherry pick biblical quotes! 🙂
You sound like you’re in a good space with this conversation /virtual high five
Those prostheses are really excellent! I’m glad those people are showing off the natural beauty of their bodies in the forms they have.
@katz
+1