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The Man Boobz Troll of the Year Award for 2012 goes to … MRAL! No, that’s not a typo.

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The votes are in and the winner of the highly coveted Man Boobz Troll of the Year Award for 2012 is … MRAL!

Wait, you say, he wasn’t even on the ballot?

Well, no. The troll that got the most votes from you, my dear readers, was the verbose anti-Man Boobz crusader known as Steele —  also known as Mikhael Varpole and, briefly, as Torvus Butthorn. Indeed, Steele cruised to victory, getting 47% of the vote, as compared with the 33% received by Tom Martin, his only real competitor. (Dr. Pell came in third, with a mere 6% of the total.)

But as it turns out we’ve been played, big time. The troll we know and love as Steele turns out to have been MRAL all along.

Yes, that MRAL – the long banned commenter who cannot seem to walk away from this blog. We’ve uncovered and banned many of his previous sockpuppets, but somehow he managed to slip his boldest sockpuppet right by us.

Oh, sure. I and others here often wondered if Steele was for real; it seemed pretty clear to me that he couldn’t possibly believe everything he said. But it wasn’t until I went back  to some of “Steele’s” earliest comments here, in preparation for this post, that I discovered how justified these suspicions had been. Turns out that one of “Mikhael Varpole’s” IP addresses matched one used by an earlier troll, Scooby Doo on Zombie Island, who had been outed as MRAL a couple of months earlier.

D’OH!

“Torvus Butthorn” really should have been a dead giveaway. But otherwise the highly dedicated MRAL did a masterful job of keeping his troll character consistently ridiculous yet plausible enough to not be an obvious phony, and of hiding his particular obsessions in such a way that he didn’t give himself away.

So, congrats, MRAL, and you’re banned again.

After this, the rest of the results are a bit of an anticlimax.

Sunshine Mary wins the Special-est Snowflake award for Female MRA Trolls, with 52% of the vote. Driversuz comes in second with 32%.

Tom Martin easily wins the Worst Human Being award with a stunning 73% to David K Meller’s 22%.

Some Guy Bored With Your Schtick wins Most Tiresome with 58% of the vote; Diogenes is a distant second with 24%.

And JudgyBitch wins Most Pathetic Vote Beggar.

I hope they’re not all MRAL too.

 

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pecunium
7 years ago

I’ve never had a shitty time with the VA, though some clinics (and hospitals) are better than others. If I start having more serious problems I may start saying we need to consider moving to where the VA is better (Palo Alto is allied with Stanford Medical School; it’s also a new facility. I’ve had great treatment there).

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

Milk and sweetener in my tea!

Once at work I’d just poured milk and found it was a bit off – start over again. Mr K (who likes his tea and coffee black) put in an appearance.

Him: That wouldn’t happen if you took it black.

Me: Shut up, smartarse.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
7 years ago

teratomatastic — Steele / Varpole went by Torvus Butthorn too. And suggested response to a Pell Incident might be to just play along, the more you toy with him, the funnier he gets.

This thread was where I had fun with him (he was John Thomas then) — http://manboobz.com/2012/05/09/womens-suffrage-still-controversial-apparently/

WeeBoy
WeeBoy
7 years ago

I used to have a lot of MRA type views because I was an asshole as a teenager. I also got a lot of reinforcement from gay male culture in which women were seen as desperate fag hags who were moody, unreasonable, vapid and prudish.

Then I realised that those guys didn’t like me either, because Im femmy. Then I grew up, read a lot of blogs, actually talked to women and especially my mother (a second wave feminist who answered phones at family planning when abortion rights were being fought over).

And then I became a feminist and general queer radical. And it was good.

timetravellingfool
7 years ago

@ leftwingfox- Recovering nice guy on the wagon, huh? You might enjoy Jezebel’s article on Nice Guys of OK Cupid (2 sites I love, together at last!).

deezers
7 years ago

If someone is really interested, I guess there are plenty of 101 articles and entire blogs out there where they can learn. Save your energy – we got some candles to drink.

Or something

lauralot89
7 years ago

I swear I am being haunted by tea lately.

The other day I decided that I was going to develop an appreciation for tea, damn it, because everyone I know seems to love it and it’s never tasted like anything more than hot, slightly flavored water to me. (The expection being Panera’s iced green tea, but that is probably because it is more sugar than water or something.) Another forum just gave me about five pages worth of tea recommendations.

So far I’ve tried Irish breakfast tea and despite putting two teabags in one cup and letting it steep for ten minutes, plus milk and sugar, I still couldn’t taste a thing. I don’t know what’s up with that because usually I have no problem picking up flavors. I can’t taste Lipton’s either. I still have some fruit-flavored and herbal teas lying around, so I guess I’ll try those next. Also an Internet friend is mailing me something called Yorkshire tea, which apparently, if I can’t taste that, will mean I am just not destined to be a tea drinker.

Shiraz
Shiraz
7 years ago

Bottoms up, deezers!

katz
7 years ago

Lauralot, if you’re not into tea, then you’re not! You’re not obligated to enjoy something because other people enjoy it.

lauralot89
7 years ago

@katz

Yeah, I just want to be sure I’ve given it a good try before I decide it’s not my thing. I’ve never really had it before and there’s just so much of it – I figure the odds are there might be at least one that I like.

BlackBloc (@XBlackBlocX)

Yeah, never an MRA myself but certainly a recovered Nice Guy (I think I’ve been past the ‘recovering Nice Guy’ stage for long enough now that I don’t think of myself that way anymore). The most fetid part of it was association of ‘girly’ interests with consumerism, i.e. a misogynist’s socialism. I would say in general that it was exacerbated criticism of how other people’s interests played into capitalism without an equivalent strength in my own self-criticism (and obviously that meant a harsher look at traditionally female interests than those that were part of my ‘alternate’ masculinity, i.e. geek culture).

Thank the gods I’m no longer 19. If I could go back in time to slap some sense into myself I’d do it.

Shadow
Shadow
7 years ago

If ever there were a moment to cry “Jenkies!!” it’s now. Cant lie, this was a pretty awesome way to start the New Manboobz Year off (and a mad late Happy New Year to everyone!!).

Re: the Feminist v Egalitarian thing

I can understand the whole calling yourself Egalitarian instead of Feminist, do you, label yourself whatever want. What I don’t understand is this idea that people who identify as one thing don’t identify as anything else, or that people who advocate for one cause don’t advocate for anything else.

katz
7 years ago

Thank the gods I’m no longer 19. If I could go back in time to slap some sense into myself I’d do it.

Same here! If time travel is ever invented, that will have to be the first thing everyone does with it.

Shadow
Shadow
7 years ago

@Lauralot

If you have any good Indian restaurants near you, you may want to give masala tea a try (if you like spicy drinks). I don’t really like tea (which, as a South Asian, may have me tried as a blasphemer), but I find the spices really change the taste to something more enjoyable.

inurashii
inurashii
7 years ago

Also jumping on the Recovered Nice Guy bandwagon. So glad that time is behind me.

pecunium
7 years ago

katz: Same here! If time travel is ever invented, that will have to be the first thing everyone does with it.

Not me. Yeah, I screwed some stuff up, but if I’d done it differently I’d not be who I am today, and I don’t know that I’d be happier.

Since I am, in the main, satisfied with my life, I don’t want to screw it up.

Carleyblue
Carleyblue
7 years ago

What I don’t understand is this idea that people who identify as one thing don’t identify as anything else, or that people who advocate for one cause don’t advocate for anything else.

Yes, exactly

timetravellingfool
7 years ago

Lauralot, I don’t know, tea is pretty nice, you’re probably being too hard on it. You should really give tea a chance, instead of falling for all those asshole beverages like coffee and beer. Sure they’re tasty and fun to drink, but they’re not warm and consoling the way tea is.

leftwingfox
7 years ago

timetravellingfool: Heh, for certain values of “enjoy”. I found the articles and the tumblr.

Fortunately, my actions and words never metastasized into that level of fuckwittery, but I can sure recognize the attitudes.

thenatfantastic
thenatfantastic
7 years ago

@Lauralot

I’m from Yorkshire. We take our tea very seriously. *stern look*

BoyFantastic is doing that whole ‘dry January’ thing and because I don’t want to be sat on my own drinking cider after less than a week, I am joining in when we’re at home. Since the only non-alcoholic drinks we usually have in the flat are normal English tea (milk and sugar type) and fruit cordial, we decided that we were going to try different types of tea. After £3.50 and a lot of suspicious eyeing of cups I can confirm that 1) Assam just tastes like strong black English tea (which is part-made from Assam so I suppose that’s to be expected) 2) Green tea tastes and looks like boiled pondwater 3) All fruit teas still taste like really weak hot cordial.

And it’s only the 3rd of January. *pathetic face*

timetravellingfool
7 years ago

@ leftwing- I just happened upon it shortly after I read your comment, so I thought I’d hook you up. Congrats on X days as not a Nice Guy!

Some Gal Not Bored at All

If you like sweet tea, Nutcracker Sweet from Celestial Seasonings is fun this time of year and Trader Joe’s has a slightly less sweet version (called just Cinnamon and Vanilla or something. If anyone cares, I’ll get off my ass and check.) That makes an excellent iced tea when made with a bit of brown sugar and cream or milk. (With milk, it tastes a bit watery to me so I’ve been using half and half.)

pecunium
7 years ago

natfantastic: You might want to try some oolongs, keemuns, or pingsueys.

Lapsang Souchongs are very different. Masala Chai can be great, or awful; no way to know until you try it.

TIbetan brick teas… not for the faint of heart.

Laura, if tea ain’t your bag, don’t force yourself.

inurashii
inurashii
7 years ago

While we’re talking about teas:

Folks who live in New England who like ‘dessert teas’: Tealuxe at Harvard has a tea called Crème de la Earl Grey. It basically tastes like bergamot-scented cake. With cream and sugar, it’s basically liquid dessert. Strongly recommend.

Non New England folks: well, you can order it online

hrovitnir
7 years ago

thenatfantastic, have you tried Earl Grey? And Lady Grey? They’re a little different to regular black tea and I think they’re yummy. There are also about a gazillion green teas; I have to be in the right mood but it can be really yummy, and you can get some fun teas with dried flowers that open in the water at specialist shops.

Also, fruit teas are by and large far too sweet for me but rosehip is fruity without being sticky, and I actually found a green apple (not the delicious Turkish apple tea that is 50% sugar though that’s good too :D) that’s really addictive.

howardbann1ster
7 years ago

On tea: if you aren’t sold on tea, and need something stronger, then go for a cinnamon tea.

I’m not kidding. I’m serious. Please stop laughing. Oh, all right, laugh if you must. But apple cinnamon tea is awesome power.

Some Gal Not Bored at All

@hrovitnir

I have some with the flower-opening that I got as a gift and am finally going to use now that my sis is visiting. Thanks for reminding me!

Historophilia
Historophilia
7 years ago

NatFantastic that’s all the explaining that I have the energy to do. And I’m only doing it because Evito is a recovering MRA and because she seems willing to learn.

As for tea, I only drink one kind of tea and that is English Breakfast with milk no sugar.

pecunium
7 years ago

See me, I hate, with a loathing strong and deep, Earl Grey, and all it’s ilk.

I’m a tea purist. herbal teas, mostly crap. Flavored teas, mostly crap.

Green teas, white tease, oolongs and black teas, yummy.

Masala Chai is a different beast, because of it’s being steeped in milk. Make them up plain, and add milk… utter crap.

🙂

I do like some bark infusions as well, but those aren’t the sort of thing to drink every day, nor in quantity, no matter what Eull Gibbons had to say about the pine tree.

titianblue
titianblue
7 years ago

I’m a teapot and loose leaf person (teabags? Peh! You know they put all the floor sweepings into teabags?*) but usually English Breakfast or Ceylon. With milk but no sugar, thanks. Possibly with brandy in times of stress 😉

*Not really but how would you know when you can’t see the actual leaves?

thenatfantastic
thenatfantastic
7 years ago

*makes notes on tea*

Cheers guys 🙂

katz
7 years ago

white tease

It looks like white tea, but when you put it in water it turns out to be something totally different!

(Don’t mind me, I’m just…teasing…)

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
7 years ago

“I’m not kidding. I’m serious. Please stop laughing. Oh, all right, laugh if you must. But apple cinnamon tea is awesome power.”

Lol, I will always associate that stuff with a bad ‘shroom trip — it is excellent for covering the ‘shroom flavor though (it’s very cinnamon-y in other words)

…and anyone debating th ‘shroom thing, let the tea cool a bit first XD

leftwingfox
7 years ago

timetravellingfool: I think It’s coming close to a decade now. 😉

Actually, I think I’ll commit to an OkCupid ad this year. Single life is starting to suck, and I’m finally feeling comfortable enough to say “This is who I am, this is what I can give”. My introversion has damaged a couple relationships in the past, and coming to terms with that is helping me to understand the sort of relationship that would work, and that others might find appealing.

Now, if I can only recover from my caffeine addiction, I can ween myself off sweet coffee onto black Earl Grey tea. 😉

leftwingfox
7 years ago

Oooh, or Republic of Tea Blackberry Sage! (If I can find it again)

thebewilderness
7 years ago

Lauralot, I had the same problem with coffee. It just tasted like hot bitter water to me.
Many years ago a friend brought me a coffee press and all different coffees from this little shop at the Pike Street Market. Market Spice is a tea that will make you stand up and take notice, by the bye. So we tasted various coffees with different combinations of cream and sugar till I discovered a delicious one. It has been downhill ever since.

lauralot89
7 years ago

I can taste coffee, but it’s so bitter I prefer not to.

I do like iced green tea, and I’ll drink it hot when I’m sick. Never had white, and I don’t seem to taste black teas at all, which is a shame because they smell nice.

whataboutthemoonz
7 years ago

“As for tea, I only drink one kind of tea and that is English Breakfast with milk no sugar.”

English Breakfast, lots of sugar, milk optional. I also drink anything tasting of mint.

katz
7 years ago

Anyone else a huge rooibos fan? Lauralot, you might add rooibos to your to-drink list. It’s quite rich and flavorful.

viola
7 years ago

Assam, Yunnan and Keemun for me. Brewed strong, with a bit of milk and no sugar.

freitag235
freitag235
7 years ago

Coffee. Black. Bitter. Turn your innards inside out black and bitter. No cream, no sugar, just like FSM created it. Curls your hair, put hair on your chest (ladies, be warned!), wakes you the fuck up in the morning.

And everything else is uphill from there, so it’s all good.

MordsithJ
7 years ago

I’m not sure, but I think Steele/ Mr. Al can also take credit for “laughage.” Which is easily my favorite non-word so far.

timetravellingfool
7 years ago

@ Leftwing- I’ve been on okcupid for a couple of months now, and it’s great!! Lots of nice fellas and everyone is quite pleasant and polite. However I’m discovering I’m too chicken to actually start the dating process- I keep getting to the planning stages and talking myself out of it. Not this week, though- I am biting the bullet, putting on my fanciest jeggings, and going into public and meeting people. Wish me luck!

freitag235
freitag235
7 years ago

TTF, good luck. Go in with confidence and self-esteem, and let things go as they go.

pecunium
7 years ago

FSM made coffee green and waxy. Man made it dark and flavorsome.

hrovitnir
7 years ago

Some Gal, awesome. Hope you like it.

I am so not surprised you’re a purist, pecunium. 😉 I can’t help wanting to be a tea snob but I’m just not made out for it. I like it with milk and sugar and I drink a hell of a lot more shitty instant coffee than any tea. lol

English Breakfast is definitely a winner though. Haven’t tried cinnamon… must remember that one. Chai is definitely awesome, I recommend that for sure if you like sweet/spicy/milky. Mmm.

I’m… never quite sure what I think of rooibos. It just doesn’t quite do it for me but it is kinda nice. My friend loves it though, and I love buying people tea so it works out. 😀

drst
drst
7 years ago

@lauralot – my only interest in tea is using ginger tea for my digestive issues. I drink lemon or mint herbal tea occasionally as well, mostly to keep warm. But since I cannot have caffeine, sugar or milk in my beverages, I don’t forsee becoming a tea fanatic any time soon. (I do recommend ginger tea, though, if you have indigestion or heartburn or especially nausea. Ginger is a strong natural anti-nausea medicine, so either in tea or ginger ale form – real ginger ale, though – it can be quite helpful.)

I don’t drink coffee at all. Water drinkers unite!

freitag235
freitag235
7 years ago

Mr. aL (hope I don’t get moderated) was before my time but I’ve read a little in the archives. He seemed like he could be a good guy, except for some issues. I’m actually a little sad to see that he’s Steele, whom I was going to vote for. At least Steele was funny. He pulled off an awesome sock, but why? That’s a lot of time and energy to…what? Guy, really, put this much into real life and see how that goes. Give the world a shot.

katz
7 years ago

Ginger is a strong natural anti-nausea medicine, so either in tea or ginger ale form – real ginger ale, though – it can be quite helpful.

I always drink ginger ale when I’m sick but I didn’t know that! I was just taught as a kid that carbonated drinks are good when you’re sick.

hrovitnir
7 years ago

Woah, busy time on Manboobz! Must also chime in on ginger tea being tasty. Oh and peppermint. When I’m trying to drink water (sorry drst and drs everywhere, I really hate straight water) and less caffeine, I drink a shitload of peppermint, ginger and rosehip teas.

Good luck TTF! I’m sure you’ll have some fun times. ^_^

Here in NZ it’s 10.47am. My boss has opened this mini cat-only clinic, operates like a GPs office with a bit of stock, any surgery etc we’ll take to the other clinic. But basically I’m stuck here doing nothing (I’m allowed to piss about on the internet all day, that’s how dead it is) aaaaaall daaaaay. AND my partner’s on holiday! Bah humbug.

But anyway, a random cat wandered by this morning and I invited him in. Now he’s curled up on our beds (for sale). So cute! 😀