Well, now you’ve gone and done it, you evil feminists: you’ve turned 0bvious_Atheist into a Nazi!
We first met the Men’s Rights subreddit regular the other day, when in a fit of ingenuity he blamed the Newtown school shootings on, er, Title IX. Well, his strange political journey has continued, and on his blog, on Boxing Day, the Canadian MRA officially announced his conversion to neo-Nazism. Literally. Let’s let him explain:
I have grown impatient
I have lost my desire for conventional activism. We live in an era where men like Warren Farrell are run off campus by mobs of Femistasi, men like Keenan Midgley get maligned for trying to start Men’s Centres, JohnTheOther gets harassed in the streets and others like him get assaulted, Mr. Heimbach a white students advocate in the United States, is constantly maligned by the media and the intellectual establishment, and Jared Taylor, a meek and mild Yale graduate, is harassed at every turn by the establishment.
Huh. I have to admit I’m not completely up-to-date on all the examples of anti-white, anti-male oppression he lists here, but I would like to point out that Warren Farrell did not, in fact, get run off the University of Toronto campus. A number of students protested his visit, some of them quite rudely, but the police interceded on his behalf, clearing away protesters so he could go ahead and make his speech.
I also looked up that vague reference to “Mr. Heinbach,” and discovered that Matthew Heimbach is a student at Maryland’s Towson University who wants to start a White Student Union there. As part of his campaign for tolerance on behalf of America’s beleaguered white majority, he recently posed in front of Martin Luther King Jr.’s church in Montgomery holding a Confederate flag.
Gosh, how terribly unfair it is that some people might have criticized him for this.
Mr. Atheist continues:
I’m a young man. I don’t have the patience to go around asking for permission to exercise my inalienable, natural right to freedom of association. As Harold Covington said, Whites feel they need a permission slip from quote “the Jews” unquote to advocate for them. I feel the same thing can be said of Men’s Rights Activism. We feel that we need permission from Feminists, the intellectual establishment, and the state to self-advocate. Our entire movement has become a quest for permission from the left to self-advocate.
I’m pretty sure that not even a single molecule of that is even remotely true. What color is the sky in Imaginary Backwards Land?
We want a Men’s Ministry in the government. We want Men’s organizations on campus. We want White student unions. All of those things are politically toxic to the establishment and out of reach, and furthermore, if you look at what the “Men’s Ministries” in the Northern European welfare states have done you will remain unimpressed, and perhaps even alarmed, at how little they have mitigated the total alienation of young men from the respective societies of those countries.
Of course, the young men who are most alienated from society in the Northern (and Southern) European welfare states today are the immigrants who are so despised by Mr. Atheist and his fellow White “Nationalist” racist assholes. And these young male immigrants aren’t feeling alienated because of a lack of White Student Unions or the unimpressive actions of Men’s Ministries; they’re feeling alienated because of racism and a lack of jobs.
With this in mind we must recognize that productive organizations simply are not going to become a reality. If you doubt me, you can go look at what they did to Dr Warren Farrell when he tried to speak at the University of Toronto. I have absolutely no desire to be screamed at, spit on, expelled, fired, ostracized, and made into a pariah for simply asking to exercise my right to freedom of association.
So the fact that a couple of dozen students protested against a speaker on a college campus, delaying his talk for half an hour or so, means that normal political activity on behalf of your ass-backwards faux “civil rights movement” is impossible? Mr. Atheist, do you have any fucking idea what real civil rights advocates went through in order to get the same basic rights as everyone else, like the right to fucking vote? Do you think that feminists weren’t ever “screamed at, spit on, expelled, fired, ostracized, and made into … pariah(s)?”
What sort of strange entitled bubble do you live in that you think political activism should be painless? Or that your political opponents should simply roll over once you express your opinions?
Congratulations intellectual establishment. After around 14 years of politically correct education at politically correct institutions run by politically correct professors you have alienated me, first as a White, and secondly as a male. I have got absolutely no patience for your goddamn processes, your forms, your organizational quotas and quorums required to get approval from the UVSS. I’m fed up, and I’m going elsewhere else to self-advocate.
If you’re really serious about going “elsewhere else,” might I suggest another planet?
As market Anarchists and Libertarians constantly must remind you crypto-Marxists, if you ban something the buyer will go elsewhere in the market to get it. That’s exactly what I plan to do. Rather than grovelling at the feet of professors, academics, pseudo-intellectual social justice warriors, and Femistasi, I’m just going to go join the Western Front, a quasi-Neo-Nazi, semi-illegal White Nationalist political organization that accepts me for what I am and understands my problems. You have driven a relatively well off, intelligent, middle class, White male, who used to vote NDP, into the arms of the very people you taught me to despise for the totality of my formative years.
Great. I guess the one upside of all this is that Mr. Atheist won’t be calling feminists “feminazis” from now on. Not that “femistasi” is much of an improvement.
Oh, and in case anyone needs visual evidence of how much of a racist fuck 0bvious_Atheist really is — not that there’s much doubt — here’s a link to a cartoon he stuck onto the end of one of his recent YouTube videos. But first, a TRIGGER WARNING for really really racist rape imagery. Link.
(Note: There doesn’t seem to be any information online about a neo-Nazi group called Western Front, at least not in Canada. There was evidently one by that name in Los Angeles at one point. Does this group, like the anti-white-male oppression he talks about, exist only in 0bvious_Atheist’s head? EDITED TO ADD: There is a group called Northwest Front; presumably that’s what he meant.)
Damn. Frothing ninjas on every frothing thread.
I almost care.
You appear to be an individual with pretensions of Welsh. Capitalise your god-damn first-person pronouns!
creative writing student
welsh capitalizes first pronouns and writes in a scottish dialect. so ahd bee writen lyke this wee lassie
I am the supreme overlord of the world. I am the supreme overlord of the world. I am the supreme overlord of the world.
There, I said it three times. Does that make it true now?
OK, I’ll write a post about The Misandry Bubble.
I might end up mocking it, though, rather than providing a detailed logical argument against each and every dumb argument it makes.
FSM preserve us from first-time late teen/early twenty something readers of Trainspotting.
Why game doesn’t “work as a concept”???
Could be because I don’t give a flying fuck about it as a concept, as if it were some sort of abstruse theory that has no effect on real people’s lives. Game is a way of degrading and humiliating women to coerce them into sex, or setting up abusive relationships (like whichever one of those shit-eaters it was who said a man should do things like pretending to kill his girlfriend’s cat, or randomly grabbing and pulling her breasts – acts designed to frighten, distress and physically hurt her). If you really need the wrongness of that explained, if you really can’t see that calling it a “concept” demonstrates that you don’t see women as people, then you’re every bit as disgusting as the ones promoting it.
David, while you’re at it, could you change the tag-line of the blog to something other than “Misogyny: I edit a well-regarded peer review journal right here about it?” That might clear up some of the misconceptions.
I think you have to click your heels together three times to make it work.
Depends. Are you Ceiling Cat?
@Francis Begbie
Welsh also has a grammatically correct lower-case ‘i’, meaning ‘to’ if I remember correctly.
I’m assuming that you temporarily lapsed into Welsh when writing “To have said three times already to am not an MRA.”
You should also capitalise acronyms and use terminal punctuation. 😛
Let me save you some time, Francis. Everyone here knows what “game” is. We get it. We get that there are some aspects of the platitudes, directives and ideology that makes up “game” that can be relatively benign. For example: work on your personal appearance, understand that making your romantic interest known is generally required to have sexual/romantic relationships, shower regularly.
We also know that a not insignificant portion of “game theory” is either steeped in or unabashedly promotes misogyny. We’ve both read, analyzed, and mocked extremely misogynistic writing from the likes of Roosh, Roissy and others. We’ve argued with trolls in this space about ideas like “bare-backing persistence.” We reject and soundly mock the notion that women are monolith and as such are inherently stupid, inferior, hypergamous, prudish, sluts (the contradictions are never ending with these jackasses) who, in our ordained roles as the gatekeepers of sex, should be constantly barraged with unwanted attention from entitled assholes who don’t understand that “No” is, in fact, a complete sentence.
In short? If “game” has got you lifting weights and getting laid, more power to you. No one here has ever said that trying to be attractive and talk to women is an objectively bad course of action when it comes to dating, sex, and potential relationships. But if you’re going to descend into the kind of cliched and banal sexism that comes from most defenders of “game” you can save it. We’ve heard and mocked it all before.
You could write about it on its 3-year anniversary and talk about how close its predictions are to coming true.
I’ll catch up here n a minute, but can some one remind me which thread Melissa’s victim blaming was in? I can only find the spermjacking stuff.
@Argenti, here: http://manboobz.com/2012/12/28/2012-year-of-triumphs-for-the-mens-rights-movement/comment-page-1/#comments – if you do a search for “Melissa” in the page, read from the third hit.
Kiwi girl – thank you, I’m having an email convo that’s turning into examples of victim blaming. Melissa’s “I can’t be victim blaming because similar was said to me” was worthy of mention, but I needed the context. (Context, I fail at it.)
When you’re done there, Argenti, have a look at the Men’s Rights Redditor thread.
DiogenesDingleberry has provided the material for a whole new Pierre script!Francis, I drew you a picture: http://i.imgur.com/P4zqn.gif
That may be my favorite .gif ever. XD
Holy crap, that’s awesome!
Thank you!
Kitteh, just caught up over there, and lol is it awesomely stupid.
Claire, that rocks 😀
Argenti – first ever cross-thread ninja? 😀
Clairedammit, way cool!
Perfect clairedammit. Reminded me of this, and gave me a smiley face.
http://getyourownmotherfuckingblogasshole.wordpress.com/2009/09/06/hello-world/