Well, now you’ve gone and done it, you evil feminists: you’ve turned 0bvious_Atheist into a Nazi!
We first met the Men’s Rights subreddit regular the other day, when in a fit of ingenuity he blamed the Newtown school shootings on, er, Title IX. Well, his strange political journey has continued, and on his blog, on Boxing Day, the Canadian MRA officially announced his conversion to neo-Nazism. Literally. Let’s let him explain:
I have grown impatient
I have lost my desire for conventional activism. We live in an era where men like Warren Farrell are run off campus by mobs of Femistasi, men like Keenan Midgley get maligned for trying to start Men’s Centres, JohnTheOther gets harassed in the streets and others like him get assaulted, Mr. Heimbach a white students advocate in the United States, is constantly maligned by the media and the intellectual establishment, and Jared Taylor, a meek and mild Yale graduate, is harassed at every turn by the establishment.
Huh. I have to admit I’m not completely up-to-date on all the examples of anti-white, anti-male oppression he lists here, but I would like to point out that Warren Farrell did not, in fact, get run off the University of Toronto campus. A number of students protested his visit, some of them quite rudely, but the police interceded on his behalf, clearing away protesters so he could go ahead and make his speech.
I also looked up that vague reference to “Mr. Heinbach,” and discovered that Matthew Heimbach is a student at Maryland’s Towson University who wants to start a White Student Union there. As part of his campaign for tolerance on behalf of America’s beleaguered white majority, he recently posed in front of Martin Luther King Jr.’s church in Montgomery holding a Confederate flag.
Gosh, how terribly unfair it is that some people might have criticized him for this.
Mr. Atheist continues:
I’m a young man. I don’t have the patience to go around asking for permission to exercise my inalienable, natural right to freedom of association. As Harold Covington said, Whites feel they need a permission slip from quote “the Jews” unquote to advocate for them. I feel the same thing can be said of Men’s Rights Activism. We feel that we need permission from Feminists, the intellectual establishment, and the state to self-advocate. Our entire movement has become a quest for permission from the left to self-advocate.
I’m pretty sure that not even a single molecule of that is even remotely true. What color is the sky in Imaginary Backwards Land?
We want a Men’s Ministry in the government. We want Men’s organizations on campus. We want White student unions. All of those things are politically toxic to the establishment and out of reach, and furthermore, if you look at what the “Men’s Ministries” in the Northern European welfare states have done you will remain unimpressed, and perhaps even alarmed, at how little they have mitigated the total alienation of young men from the respective societies of those countries.
Of course, the young men who are most alienated from society in the Northern (and Southern) European welfare states today are the immigrants who are so despised by Mr. Atheist and his fellow White “Nationalist” racist assholes. And these young male immigrants aren’t feeling alienated because of a lack of White Student Unions or the unimpressive actions of Men’s Ministries; they’re feeling alienated because of racism and a lack of jobs.
With this in mind we must recognize that productive organizations simply are not going to become a reality. If you doubt me, you can go look at what they did to Dr Warren Farrell when he tried to speak at the University of Toronto. I have absolutely no desire to be screamed at, spit on, expelled, fired, ostracized, and made into a pariah for simply asking to exercise my right to freedom of association.
So the fact that a couple of dozen students protested against a speaker on a college campus, delaying his talk for half an hour or so, means that normal political activity on behalf of your ass-backwards faux “civil rights movement” is impossible? Mr. Atheist, do you have any fucking idea what real civil rights advocates went through in order to get the same basic rights as everyone else, like the right to fucking vote? Do you think that feminists weren’t ever “screamed at, spit on, expelled, fired, ostracized, and made into … pariah(s)?”
What sort of strange entitled bubble do you live in that you think political activism should be painless? Or that your political opponents should simply roll over once you express your opinions?
Congratulations intellectual establishment. After around 14 years of politically correct education at politically correct institutions run by politically correct professors you have alienated me, first as a White, and secondly as a male. I have got absolutely no patience for your goddamn processes, your forms, your organizational quotas and quorums required to get approval from the UVSS. I’m fed up, and I’m going elsewhere else to self-advocate.
If you’re really serious about going “elsewhere else,” might I suggest another planet?
As market Anarchists and Libertarians constantly must remind you crypto-Marxists, if you ban something the buyer will go elsewhere in the market to get it. That’s exactly what I plan to do. Rather than grovelling at the feet of professors, academics, pseudo-intellectual social justice warriors, and Femistasi, I’m just going to go join the Western Front, a quasi-Neo-Nazi, semi-illegal White Nationalist political organization that accepts me for what I am and understands my problems. You have driven a relatively well off, intelligent, middle class, White male, who used to vote NDP, into the arms of the very people you taught me to despise for the totality of my formative years.
Great. I guess the one upside of all this is that Mr. Atheist won’t be calling feminists “feminazis” from now on. Not that “femistasi” is much of an improvement.
Oh, and in case anyone needs visual evidence of how much of a racist fuck 0bvious_Atheist really is — not that there’s much doubt — here’s a link to a cartoon he stuck onto the end of one of his recent YouTube videos. But first, a TRIGGER WARNING for really really racist rape imagery. Link.
(Note: There doesn’t seem to be any information online about a neo-Nazi group called Western Front, at least not in Canada. There was evidently one by that name in Los Angeles at one point. Does this group, like the anti-white-male oppression he talks about, exist only in 0bvious_Atheist’s head? EDITED TO ADD: There is a group called Northwest Front; presumably that’s what he meant.)
Francis, look up the definition of slander. Pasting the words they write themselves is not slander. The assholes, including Melissa, said/wrote the words that are being attacked. Not slander.
Kittens
I believe that MRAs are whiny losers and I believe that a lot of PUAs are tools.
what i am talking about is roissy/roosh’s/dalrocks ideas of female psychology (also known as game) in order to sustain a loving relationship with a woman who earns it
I want Dave Futrelle to call out game as a concept, because a lot of people here think game and mra/pua material is synonymous.
eline
I am not an mra
So, you don’t read the blog then Francis. There is post after post after post tearing apart Roosh and his ilk. The Archives and search bar, powerful tools. Try them sometime.
Francis Begbie? Oooooh, edgy. Was Tyler Durden taken?
[snort]
Hahaha, oh lord. Yes, David, please do an article on The Misandry Bubble:
http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.html
It would be freaking hilarious.
kittens
i guess i dont understand that insulting people in a crass manner constitutes comedy these days
again, I ask the question
what is game, and why is it incorrect? a lot of what is interpeted as misogyny on this website seems to fall into this category
@Tulgey, On behalf of David, you’re welcome.
Since Francis is clearly Some Guy, can we please limit him to 3 posts a day as well?
And can we make those three posts a day required to be more ridiculous lies about how the manosphere has made him the Ubermensch?
(Ooh, I called him a sock – is that slander?)
tudgey
I agree. i want to hear davids opinion on such an article
They are both steeped in misogyny, but I don’t recall seeing anyone say they’re identical. The whole “men’s movement” seems to hate each other almost as much as they hate women, PoC and anyone else who doesn’t fit their tiny brain bubbles.
But in any case, this is still a blog mocking misogyny of whatever variety. It isn’t about dissertations or examinations of ideas. Oh, and since when do people (not just women) “earn” loving relationships? PUAs are all about
rapefuck them and leave them.ranter
ive read the roosh and roissy posts and ive seen dave mocking them for apparent misogyny but besides saying something is misogyny i havent seen any, not one post on why game and these concepts are based on are incorrect
surely if dave wanted to mock misogyny even more, he could show all of us why all this stuff these guys believe is bullshit and that would be even funnier
Also, David, could you do a post explaining to MRA fuckheads exactly what slander is? Because they’re just never going to figure it out themselves.
I second that the misandry bubble needs to have the piss taken out of it. That’s some heavy duty pile of stupid right there. Someone needs to send an excerpt for submission to fstdt.com too.
“people are trying to explain (and have been for days) to Melissa what is problematical about the ideas she’s been throwing around.”
The stuff about rape culture makes sense, but I think that was the first time anyone has tried constructive and relevant discussion with me. (I dropped out of the previous thread quite abruptly, and actually haven’t yet gone back to catch up on all that stuff yet. Most of the time people have just been telling me to “eff off” and misrepresenting my statements.
“cage the women to keep them safe”?
WTF? I reused a quote from Kittehs’ “you shouldn’t walk alone at night”, but even that is NOT my statement.
Actually though, thank you for saying that stuff about rape culture Kittehs. That is relevant and I will think about it.
Our boy Franco definitely has the stink of socks about him.
Begbie: what part of “misogyny, I mock it” don’t you get?
Um, because its blatantly obvious why. Because the comments sections do a pretty damn good job of tearing them apart in details. Because I don’t need Dave to explain to me that 1+1=2. Shit dude, if you need your hand held while being told why this shit is wrong, perhaps a site dedicated to MOCKING is not the first place you should stop by.
Schticky, to pretend for a moment you were asking seriously: if you have to ask why game is “incorrect” then you’ve just managed a massive fail as a decent human being.
oh crud, just saw that he already did it. That will teach me to pay closer attention to the comments before I post.
kittens
women earn loving relationships by working hard on being a good person and the same for men
strange you say that about puas
sir bod
i have said three times already i am not an mra
Oh, wow. Thanks, cloudiah! That’s my yearly reminder that I should read the Manboobz archives at some point.
kittens
yes, but you’re not explaining to me why game doesnt work as a concept. do you understand what game is? i can give you a definition if you want
Say hello to the Candyman for me. I hear he has a hard chair in place of his hand.
I hear if you do that in front of a mirror, the bloody ghost of Valerie Solanas appears.