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No Godwin’s Law here. This Men’s Rights Activist really IS a Nazi.

Great. Another Hitler baby.
Great. Another Hitler baby.

Well, now you’ve gone and done it, you evil feminists: you’ve turned 0bvious_Atheist into a Nazi!

We first met the Men’s Rights subreddit regular the other day, when in a fit of ingenuity he blamed the Newtown school shootings on, er, Title IX. Well, his strange political journey has continued, and on his blog, on Boxing Day, the Canadian MRA officially announced his conversion to neo-Nazism. Literally. Let’s let him explain:

I have grown impatient

I have lost my desire for conventional activism. We live in an era where men like Warren Farrell are run off campus by mobs of Femistasi, men like Keenan Midgley get maligned for trying to start Men’s Centres, JohnTheOther gets harassed in the streets and others like him get assaulted, Mr. Heimbach a white students advocate in the United States, is constantly maligned by the media and the intellectual establishment, and Jared Taylor, a meek and mild Yale graduate, is harassed at every turn by the establishment.

Huh. I have to admit I’m not completely up-to-date on all the examples of anti-white, anti-male oppression he lists here, but I would like to point out that Warren Farrell did not, in fact, get run off the University of Toronto campus. A number of students protested his visit, some of them quite rudely, but the police interceded on his behalf, clearing away protesters so he could go ahead and make his speech.

I also looked up that vague reference to “Mr. Heinbach,” and discovered that Matthew Heimbach is a student at Maryland’s Towson University who wants to start a White Student Union there. As part of his campaign for tolerance on behalf of America’s beleaguered white majority, he recently posed in front of Martin Luther King Jr.’s church in Montgomery holding a Confederate flag.

Gosh, how terribly unfair it is that some people might have criticized him for this.

Mr. Atheist continues:

I’m a young man. I don’t have the patience to go around asking for permission to exercise my inalienable, natural right to freedom of association. As Harold Covington said, Whites feel they need a permission slip from quote “the Jews” unquote to advocate for them. I feel the same thing can be said of Men’s Rights Activism. We feel that we need permission from Feminists, the intellectual establishment, and the state to self-advocate. Our entire movement has become a quest for permission from the left to self-advocate.

I’m pretty sure that not even a single molecule of that is even remotely true. What color is the sky in Imaginary Backwards Land?

We want a Men’s Ministry in the government. We want Men’s organizations on campus. We want White student unions. All of those things are politically toxic to the establishment and out of reach, and furthermore, if you look at what the “Men’s Ministries” in the Northern European welfare states have done you will remain unimpressed, and perhaps even alarmed, at how little they have mitigated the total alienation of young men from the respective societies of those countries.

Of course, the young men who are most alienated from society in the Northern (and Southern) European welfare states today are the immigrants who are so despised by Mr. Atheist and his fellow White “Nationalist” racist assholes. And these young male immigrants aren’t feeling alienated because of a lack of White Student Unions or the unimpressive actions of Men’s Ministries; they’re feeling alienated because of racism and a lack of jobs.

With this in mind we must recognize that productive organizations simply are not going to become a reality. If you doubt me, you can go look at what they did to Dr Warren Farrell when he tried to speak at the University of Toronto. I have absolutely no desire to be screamed at, spit on, expelled, fired, ostracized, and made into a pariah for simply asking to exercise my right to freedom of association.

So the fact that a couple of dozen students protested against a speaker on a college campus, delaying his talk for half an hour or so, means that normal political activity on behalf of your ass-backwards faux “civil rights movement” is impossible? Mr. Atheist, do you have any fucking idea what real civil rights advocates went through in order to get the same basic rights as everyone else, like the right to fucking vote? Do you think that feminists weren’t ever “screamed at, spit on, expelled, fired, ostracized, and made into … pariah(s)?”

What sort of strange entitled bubble do you live in that you think political activism should be painless?  Or that your political opponents should simply roll over once you express your opinions?

Congratulations intellectual establishment. After around 14 years of politically correct education at politically correct institutions run by politically correct professors you have alienated me, first as a White, and secondly as a male. I have got absolutely no patience for your goddamn processes, your forms, your organizational quotas and quorums required to get approval from the UVSS. I’m fed up, and I’m going elsewhere else to self-advocate.

If you’re really serious about going “elsewhere else,” might I suggest another planet?

As market Anarchists and Libertarians constantly must remind you crypto-Marxists, if you ban something the buyer will go elsewhere in the market to get it. That’s exactly what I plan to do. Rather than grovelling at the feet of professors, academics, pseudo-intellectual social justice warriors, and Femistasi, I’m just going to go join the Western Front, a quasi-Neo-Nazi, semi-illegal White Nationalist political organization that accepts me for what I am and understands my problems. You have driven a relatively well off, intelligent, middle class, White male, who used to vote NDP, into the arms of the very people you taught me to despise for the totality of my formative years.

Great. I guess the one upside of all this is that Mr. Atheist won’t be calling feminists “feminazis” from now on. Not that “femistasi” is much of an improvement.

Oh, and in case anyone needs visual evidence of how much of a racist fuck 0bvious_Atheist really is — not that there’s much doubt — here’s a link to a cartoon he stuck onto the end of one of his recent YouTube videos. But first, a TRIGGER WARNING for really really racist rape imagery. Link.

(Note: There doesn’t seem to be any information online about a neo-Nazi group called Western Front, at least not in Canada. There was evidently one by that name in Los Angeles at one point. Does this group, like the anti-white-male oppression he talks about, exist only in 0bvious_Atheist’s head? EDITED TO ADD: There is a group called Northwest Front; presumably that’s what he meant.)

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hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

“Nihilists! Fuck me, Dude…”

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
11 years ago

I know, but if you do not want to have to think about anything ever you can’t beat it.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Big Lebowski reference, should have mentioned that.

You’re right, it’s lazy thinking.

Nathan Hevenstone
11 years ago
Reply to  hellkell

There doesn’t have to be an excuse. It’s a question. There is no excuse that would “make it okay”.

Since when do excuses make anything okay? That’s not why they exist.

I’m “using her story” because we had that discussion and I wanted to ask about it here. That’s it.

It’s not meant to “make it okay”. I’m not trying to “make it okay”. I don’t want to make it okay. It’s fucking not okay. I’m wondering if misogynists could use it as an excuse: “oh no, we’re not blaming you… it’s just that these people are psychopaths and are gonna rape anyways, so you might as well protect yourself.”

Anecdotes. They don’t always have to have a “point”. I feel like I did when, on James Randi forum a few years ago, I told a little anecdote about a friend who, when I asked him why he started smoking, said, in a lot more words, “lung cancer? Gotta be better than this shit”. “This shit” was here referring to world at large and humanity. I didn’t mean anything by it. I wasn’t using it to prove anything, or offer up some kind of excuse. The discussion on the thread (about cigarettes and lung cancer and “why do people smoke?” and all that) just reminded me of the story. One guy responded to it by bitching me out about “lying” and “anecdotes are not evidence”… it wasn’t meant to be any kind of fucking evidence of anything

The same principle is in play here. I don’t fucking “mean” anything by it. I’m not trying to excuse blatantly obvious misogyny. I’m not trying to “make it okay”. I had just had the conversation and was wondering about it… maybe trying to understand the point my friend was trying to make, or get another opinion on it.

That’s.

All.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Nathan, go JAQ off somewhere else.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

And take your shitty little privileged misanthropic lazy thinking ‘tude with you.

In short, eat a bowl of bees.

Bee
Bee
11 years ago

Oh. So long as you’re just asking questions and don’t “mean” anything by anything. It’s not like anyone has ever been affected by misogyny or rape culture that comes out of stupid fucking rape prevention tips or anything.

But yes, if you want to know whether misogynists use excuses to excuse their misogyny — yes, they do. Also, water is wet and puppies are cute. Please let us know if you have any more questions.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

This is a gem (as in Jesus, Mary and Oprah, someone over the age of five is asking this with a straight face):

Since when do excuses make anything okay? That’s not why they exist.

Oh, I don’t know, maybe excuses work by allowing the excuse maker to rationalize their behavior and make it OK to themselves, and get approval for their actions from others.

Anything else I can clear up for you while I’m here?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

We are not your sounding board, dude. If you have questions about something your friend said then go talk to her.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

@Nathan – you know misogynists will use excuses, we know they will, so what was the point of bringing up the story as if there might be something to it? The way you framed it read as if you were wondering if it might “really” be cynicism rather than misogyny. It doesn’t matter if cynicism is part of the mixture, it’s still misogyny.

@hellkell – I’m reading that False Rape Society thread. Slavey really gets worse all the time, doesn’t he? But you know the thing that’s struck me as quite sad? Seeing Mr Al talking like a perfectly okay human being. (If you’re reading this, Mr Al, please take note.) He tells Slavey to get off site and get a life, because he knows trolling didn’t do him any good. He tells about doing well in his exams. He’s conversing, not trolling or sockpuppeting or calling names. And what has he done since then? Reverted to type. It’s a crying shame.

hippodameia8527
hippodameia8527
11 years ago

Yet another troll with delicate feelings, I see.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Also, if you’re running into the same issue in multiple forums, guess what? The problem is you and your shitty communication skills, not the way that people are responding to you.

If you wish to improve your communication skills you can start by learning the meanings of simple words like “excuse”.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Kitteh’s: I know. Mister A pissed away a lot of good will and potential.

Did someone say excuse? Any excuse for a NYE Bounce Dance Party!

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

Oooh, can we do happy derails? Sieve memory forgets whether I did this link already, but here’s the Great Skating Disaster of 2012.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

HA! The kitty looks a bit freaked out.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

She was! Totally pissed off. She’d been on my shoulder, Q-the-dog got tangled up behind Mr K, we fell down with a crash, and Katie was Most Displeased. Just hung around long enough to belt Q over the snout before she took off.

Naturally it is all my fault. 😛

Here’s a video I lifted from the FRS thread. Sweet and soothing!

http://youtu.be/V7pFmIaX2ls

The Omega Woman
The Omega Woman
11 years ago

I think everyone has been very nice considering that I came in declaring that you’re all cruel elitist fiends who oppress sensitive snowflakes like me.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

It’s part of an ebil feminist plot to put you off your guard!

And can I second the comment from earlier, I LOVE your avatar.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Oi, I was out like a light! Apparently multiple “may cause sedation” drugs at once means “goodnight, enjoy the sleep!” (Ironically, I appear to have fallen asleep with a reply to the not-an-ex on my phone XD )

somegalnotboredatall — “Also: 4 to 7 pills (soon to be up to 8 … )” — remind me not to complain! Mine’s normally 4~5 split morning/evening, reasonable enough.

Ithiliana — “Pillz. I take nine pills in the morning, and one at night, but some are supplements, not prescription meds.” — Yep, I shouldn’t complain!

Kitteh — you mentioned it, but didn’t show the aftermath. That is one pissed off cat! At least you and Mr. Kitteh seem to be amused by the whole thing 🙂

Pecunium — I would not have guessed that you don’t have a degree, but then again, I have a serious case of self-blame about not finishing mine (<9 credits!)

“Where I shine is a ready wit, and a willingness to stick to the topic.” — I really hope we never get into a battle of wits, we might be able to compete for “Most stubborn” but you’d win on wits!

“Regarding effective half-life. That was part of my problem when the allergic onset started.” — yeah, that was my big concern, once it starts you’re in trouble, but the half-life means the damned DEATH RASH drug won’t dissipate for days…forget about it just going away <.> At least I’m supposedly out of the danger period for that. Argh on pharm. though, it’s enough of an “acceptable risk” that the not-an-ex even thought I should risk it (even after I specifically pointed out that ze likes me with my skin attached)

Ok, I’m clearly just weirded out by the mere idea.

Whataboutthemoonz — “GET BAAAAACK IN LIIIIIIIINE!!!!”

Swallow, swallow, swallow, swallow
Swallow, swallow, swallow, swallow…

Versus Swallow? Yeah, kind of love it. For the rest of you, the above bits are lyrics from —

And this is Swallow —

This randomness brought to you by the letters E and A, and the number 4 🙂

mycatsaremygods
11 years ago

Reblogged this on My Blog and commented:
This could be the new hero for the ranting bees of the atheist community cuz that is all we seem to be hearing about lately- the oppression of the WHITE MAN.

Tina
Tina
11 years ago

Good morning and Happy New Year. I feel like I hijacked this site by being too serious and I apologize for that. Gads, I’m sorry but I have to ask one favor: since I’m learning still, can’t mock yet ‘cuz I’m looking in a mirror and wish to discuss this seriously, will the regulars here mind providing links or pointing out the ones on the sidebar (?) so I can go there and you can get back to your regularly scheduled progamming? And what is my deal this morning with using “serious”, “regular” and whatever other words..repeatedly?!? I’m so sorry, all.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Welcome mycatsaremygods! The white are just so oppressed, I might wake one with my coffee grinder! (This is only half a joke, as I really am going to go make coffee, I just don’t actually give a shit if I wake my father in the process)

Tina — discuss what? I can’t seem to find a previous post by you to guess. We do have serious discussions, they just tend to get side tracked by cats, and other randomness. For feminism 101, try this, and the links to finally a feminism 101 blog — http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Feminism_101

Idk about a feminism 101 forum though, sorry. You could try asking, we’re general nice to people who seem willing to learn (hell, even when it’s an old troll who seems to finally be listening) Try asking though, assuming we aren’t having a Tolkien geekfest, you’ll probably get an answer. Bear in mind that we can talk about Tolkien for weeks though!

Speaking of which, Diogenes the Pompous the Thorin, when Thorn’s all long winded but general pointless, it you should listen because he’s important!!!

talacaris
11 years ago

When I read the Last Battle, I thought the reason Susan wasn’t there was that she was an atheist (no longer a friend of Narnia) and that the rest was just Lewis description of a strawman atheist (vain and superficial, have lost their purpose in life)

talacaris
11 years ago

wrong thread, sorry

atomicgrizzly
atomicgrizzly
11 years ago

The internet has ruined atheism for me. I’m gonna join a cool religion, like voodoo or something. Hell yeah.

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