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2012: Year of Triumphs for the Men’s Rights Movement

Come early to get a good seat!
Come early to get a good seat!

What a year!

The Men’s Rights movement, the most important human rights movement of the 21st century, got 2012 off to a flying start in February with an event in Bozeman, Montana that was quite literally attended by no one. After that, the year was a whirlwind of activity. Let’s go to the timeline:

January: The Men’s Rights movement rests up to prepare itself for the year.

February:  The Montana State University chapter of the National Coalition for Men holds a lively and well-attended Men’s Rights event in Bozeman, Montana.  Sorry. When I said “well-attended” I meant to say “not attended at all.” As the local NBC affiliate reports, in what may be my favorite sentence ever written about the Men’s Rights movement: “No one showed up to the event but organizers say the lack of attendance is not due to a lack of interest.” You can read more here at Man Boobz, or watch the NBC affiliate’s report here.

March: The Southern Poverty Law Center, an important and influential watchdog of hate groups in the United States, profiles the Men’s Rights movement, describing it as “an underworld of misogynists, woman-haters whose fury goes well beyond criticism of the family court system, domestic violence laws, and false rape accusations. …  Women are routinely maligned as sluts, gold-diggers, temptresses and worse; overly sympathetic men are dubbed “manginas”; and police and other officials are called their armed enablers.”

March: British Men’s Rights activist Tom Martin has his “anti-male discrimination” lawsuit against the London School of Economics thrown out of court as a “hopeless claim.” Martin responds on Twitter by calling his critics “whores.” He then comes to Man Boobz and calls people here whores. Eventually he announces that female penguins are also whores. No, really. Read more about Tom’s visits to Man Boobz here: 1, 2, 3, 4. (TRIGGER WARNING for links 2 and 3, which deal with Martin’s reprehensible views on child prostitution.)

April: Thousands of Men’s Rights Activists converge on the National Mall in Washington DC for “Sink Misandry,” apparently some sort of protest against the lifeboat-boarding policies of the RMS Titanic, which sank in the North Atlantic one hundred years ago. (There was a movie about it.)

Sorry, correction: When I said “thousands of MRAs” I meant to say “none.” While the Sink Misandry protest was announced with great fanfare in December of 2011 on A Voice for Men, it was later called off due to unspecified logistical problems. Understandable, given how difficult it is to get to our nation’s capital, inconveniently located on the sparsely populated East Coast and served by a mere three airports.

May – June: The Men’s Rights movement has lunch and takes a little nap.

July:  Seven Men’s Rights activists make it to the steps of the Capitol in Washington DC, evidently for some sort of anti-circumcision protest. On Reddit, one MRA blames the poor attendance on the machinations of the “Government and the Fem lobby.”

August: In order to more effectively harness the activist energies of MRAs on Reddit, Paul Elam of A Voice for Men sets up a Men’s Rights Activism subreddit alongside the longstanding Men’s Rights Subreddit. Only a handful of MRAs subscribe, possibly because Elam seems more interested in banning people he doesn’t like than in organizing anything, and the subreddit is abandoned by its founder and everyone else within a month.

September:  In Vancouver, Men’s Rights activists hold a lively, well-attended debate with feminists on the question “Has Feminism Gone Too Far?” at a local used car dealership.

Oh, sorry. Another correction: After being announced, and cancelled, then resurrected and reannounced, the event is ultimately cancelled after the organizers lose the venue for the event due to a weird turn events that involves an MRA car salesman being removed from his place of business by police after some sort of dispute with his business partner. Also, the MRAs never bothered to round up any feminists to take part in the debate with them. You can read the whole complex and confusing saga of the Great Vancouver All-MRA Debate That Wasn’t in these three Man Boobz posts: 1, 2, 3.

October: Recess

November: Artistry Against Misandry holds a lively and well-attended concert and fundraiser in Nashville to celebrate International Men’s Day.

Whoops! One more correction: The event never happened. Apparently the organizers lost their venue, and were unable to book another one, as Nashville isn’t really much of a music town and musical venues there are as scarce as … wait, no, it’s fucking Nashville. NASHVILLE. Music City. The home of the Grand Ole Opry. I’m pretty sure that every building that isn’t a house or a restaurant there is a musical venue.

Also, the Artistry Against Misandry website seems to have vanished from the face of the earth. Might I suggest a visit to Artistry For Feminism and Kittens instead?

December: Christmas shopping.

I should note that when not organizing, then cancelling, events many MRAs have been busily harassing individual women online and posting many very angry comments. A few have also been putting up some very badly designed posters. So there’s that.

With a year of such triumphs behind them, how will the Men’s Rights movement manage to keep up such a blistering pace in 2013?

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hellkell
hellkell
7 years ago

I’m sure Elam was expecting a sloppy press blowjob–he’s that deluded. He thinks ABC just doesn’t get his brilliance.

I’ll watch it just to see his ego on parade.

Paulie, if you have to keep explaining satire, you’ve failed. “Satire” is just a cop-out, a failure to own woman-hating bullshit.

sarahlizhousespouse
7 years ago

Ugh. Elam lives in the same city as me. Gross.

hellkell
hellkell
7 years ago

You’re in TX? I’m in Austin.

sarahlizhousespouse
7 years ago

I live in Houston, near Katy.

Viscaria
Viscaria
7 years ago

“Fawning” does not even begin to describe the tone of the comments on that AVfM post.

katz
7 years ago

Anyone got the video?

grumpycatisagirl
7 years ago

One of the commenters there quoted Gandhi in support of him. Hurls.

grumpycatisagirl
7 years ago

Not that it’s one of the quotes that we have any evidence of Gandhi actually saying, of course.

katz
7 years ago

“All women are bitches.” -Mahatma Gandhi FOR REAL PEOPLE HE TOTALLY SAID THAT

M Dubz
M Dubz
7 years ago

wait wait wait… Paul Elam is going to be on 20/20? I’m going to need to break out the special gourmet popcorn for this one. I have so many schadenfreude-type feelings.

thekidwiththereplaceablehead

Anyone who is ever ignored, laughed at, or fought with will inexorably win. It are truth.
I often trick people into ignoring or laughing at me. Fools. The win is coming. Just wait for it. Any time now.

thekidwiththereplaceablehead

Elam on when it will air: “Looks like next week or the week after…”

cloudiah
7 years ago

He is really going to be on 20/20? We should totally have a live MBZ party online while it’s on. I wonder if there will be a way to livestream the video of it?

M Dubz
M Dubz
7 years ago

@cloudiah- that would be so cool!

pillowinhell
pillowinhell
7 years ago

ZOMG! If 20/20 airs that piece, I am totally watching it!!!! I’ll even make papadums and milk shakes.

So…anyone want to place bets on how uncomfortable he looks when the looks of disgust from the interviewer and camera crew become apparent?

pillowinhell
pillowinhell
7 years ago

Katz, erm…didn’t Ghandi also have a little problem with believing that women had a “proper place”? I seem to recall he wasn’t as enlightened about women. Or am I falling for slander?

leftwingfox
7 years ago

pillowinhell, the pfft of all knowledge says otherwise:

He opposed purdah, child marriage, untouchability, and the extreme oppression of Hindu widows, up to and including sati. He especially recruited women to participate in the salt tax campaigns and the boycott of foreign products.

Although it also notes a strange experiment in celibacy, which involved sleeping with several women and girls. Maybe it was just a strange religious impulse, but that certainly set off the warning sirens.

leftwingfox
7 years ago

Dammit cloudiah, you need to replace your avatar with a ninja picture. 😛

And once again, reasons not to trust Wikipedia.

sarahlizhousespouse
7 years ago

“ZOMG! If 20/20 airs that piece, I am totally watching it!!!! I’ll even make papadums and milk shakes.

So…anyone want to place bets on how uncomfortable he looks when the looks of disgust from the interviewer and camera crew become apparent?”

He lacks self awareness so I doubt he will look uncomfortable. He’ll simply look baffled that the interviewer doesn’t buy his misogynistic rants as “satire”.
Sorry, PissyLegElam, you’re not funny in the least.

grumpycatisagirl
7 years ago

ooo . . . totally love the idea of a live online MBZ party! We need to do that!

katz
7 years ago

He is really going to be on 20/20? We should totally have a live MBZ party online while it’s on. I wonder if there will be a way to livestream the video of it?

Yes. We are doing this.

carnation
carnation
7 years ago

What cracks me up is that he truly seems to believe that the more people that are aware of his horrible website, the closer the MRM is to “victory”. What that MRM victory looks like, he hasn’t said.

Skinheads get more press. The Westboro Baptist Church gets more press.

It’s a testament to his almost unbelievable failure as a “leader” that he hasn’t been able to exploit existing Tea Party/Fox News misogyny and anti-feminism to further his views. He managed to get a few mentions in a right wing English newspaper, courtesy of an obscure journalist, but thus far, that’s it.

M Dubz
M Dubz
7 years ago

@carnation- I REALLY REALLY want to know what the goals of the MRM are… and how they are taking concrete steps in the real world to achieve that vision. The first part there is maybe some slight coherence of mission statement, but the second part seems utterly missing.

carnation
carnation
7 years ago

@ M Dubz

Who knows… Some MRAs want “feminists” put on trial for their “atrocities”, others want the vote rescinded, others, like Elam, who knows what they want. Certainly not to help men, anyway, they do nothing proactive or “real life”, it’s all online, and therefore very limited in effectiveness.

An old commenter here, Anthony Zarat, wanted the US split in two geographically, men on one side, women on the other.

M Dubz
M Dubz
7 years ago

@carnation- I REMEMBER Zarat. He was a good troll too. Our trolls these days are just disappointing *shakes fist and cane at these young upstart trolls nowadays*

Andy
Andy
7 years ago

Paul claims that the article 20/20 is quoting is not only satire, but explicitly admits to being satire. Yet somehow the interviewer still failed to recognize it as such.

I’m taking a wild guess here, but I suspect this could be the article they’ll end up quoting:

http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/ill-decide-if-you-were-raped-not-you/

This article is very easy to quote mine and portray as misogynistic, but it also mentions within the article itself that it’s satire… three times. If this really is the article, then 20/20 wouldn’t be the first to overlook that little detail about it: http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/michael-laxer/2013/07/voice-mens-canadian-rape-apologist-campaign-hate-speech-hits-ou

So yeah, you can’t really judge the article unless you read the whole thing, but of course, no one’s going to read the whole thing. Especially not 20/20 or anyone at manboobz.

Ally S
7 years ago

That “I’ll decide if you were raped” article is just fucking appalling. Way to try to make a point that’s actually valid by stepping on the feelings of other rape victims. Real classy, Elam.

carnation
carnation
7 years ago

I have no idea about television programming, but it’s been about three weeks since AVfM sent their best man to NYC for 20/20.

Will it see the light of day?

carnation
carnation
7 years ago

Thanks for the heads up, David.

I thought perhaps the interview was unusable for some reason, or perhaps haf been pulled.

I’m guessing Mr Elam is seriously on edge waiting for the release.

David, do we get a clue as to what you may or may not have had to do with it?

Kevin
Kevin
6 years ago

Who are you to talk about the MRM’s lack of progress? Were you there for it all?

cloudiah
6 years ago

Kevin, what are you even talking about? Never mind, just go away, and stop pooping in old threads.

titianblue
6 years ago

Kevin, if you think Manboobz has misrepresented MRM;s 2012 achievements, there’s an easy way to prove us wrong. Provide us with loads of examples of the MRM’s impressive progress that we have somehow overlooked.

Put up or shut up.

Viscaria
Viscaria
6 years ago

I’m digging the idea that the MRM has made huge strides in the fight against misandry, but they are secret strides that you could only know about if you actually took part in them. After all, what better way to change the minds and attitudes of the public than by doing things that the public never sees?

kittehserf
6 years ago

I suspect the MRM’s huge strides are something like this:

http://youtu.be/IqhlQfXUk7w

With a touch of secret handshakes thrown in:

http://youtu.be/L6geBs1_Gos

Viscaria
Viscaria
6 years ago

Hahaha Kittehs, I had a giggling fit when I saw what you’d posted.

LBT
LBT
6 years ago

Has Kevin commented in ANY live threads, or is he purely a necromancer?

Athywren
Athywren
6 years ago

MRA/Creationist parallel checksheet:
#16 – “Were you there?”
Check.

pecunium
6 years ago

I must say, Kevin is one of the more stultifying of the Defenders of the MRM we’ve had. Brandon was more exciting.

LBT
LBT
6 years ago

Hey, at least Kevin doesn’t talk about HIMSELF all day.

(PS: Kevin, do not take this as encouragement.)

CassandraSays
6 years ago

I’m digging the idea that the MRM has made huge strides in the fight against misandry, but they are secret strides that you could only know about if you actually took part in them.

Someone finally figured out how to combine thousand league boots with an invisibility cloak!

Athywren
Athywren
6 years ago

Someone finally figured out how to combine thousand league boots with an invisibility cloak!

I think they’ve just got the Boots of Icarian Flight. They sure have made some strides, but we won’t be able to see them until they come plummeting back down to the ground.

kittehserf
6 years ago

Hahaha Kittehs, I had a giggling fit when I saw what you’d posted.

My work here is done. 🙂

Anenome
Anenome
6 years ago

David,

Can we please have a list if this year’s MRA triumphs?

My personal favorite is Elam trolling himself via the satirical article that he took seriously.

cloudiah
6 years ago

Frankly, I think their main “triumph” is the Occidental false rape accusation clusterfuck.

That, and maybe their Toronto rally that had fewer people than my Thanksgiving dinner.

Ally S
6 years ago

Frankly, I think their main “triumph” is the Occidental false rape accusation clusterfuck.

I second that.

Argenti Aertheri
6 years ago

“That, and maybe their Toronto rally that had fewer people than my Thanksgiving dinner.”

Aw, I miss the huge dinners my grandmother used to host. Three room apt, one bedroom, joined den area and dining “room” and we’d squeeze in over 20 people and a nearly 30lb bird. And then Christmas! Just as many, with PILES of gifts.

Her funeral had easily 3 times the number of people that rally did. Most of the East haven fir dept showed up even — she worked for their lawyer. I mean, I was front row family and didn’t know half the people there.

My grandmother, way more liked than the MRM!

But no, their biggest achievement was Elam not appearing on 20/20.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

And don’t forget all the flying monkey pooping raids on feminist blogs and fora! If not for those, the flying monkeys would be useless.