It’s official: Men’s Rights Activists are more obsessed with their “precious bodily fluids” than Dr. Strangelove’s General Jack D. Ripper. Over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, many of the regulars are celebrating Boxing Day by sitting around on their computers worrying about evil predatory succubi burgling their sperm. Check out this little post, which has gotten 90 upvotes so far:
Yes, he really did just say “It’s as if your penis shoots magic IOUs every time you ejaculate.” If this is true, a lot of guys owe millions if not billions of dollars to a lot of old socks.
In the comments, other Men’s Rightsers shared their deepest concerns about the specter of spermburgling. SuicideBanana warns that the enemy may already be in your bed:
Reconstrucht worries about the money-hungry sperm-hunters lurking in bars:
And one future veterinarian contemplates giving up dating, in order to protect himself from the hypothetical women — sorry, soul sucking succubi — who might hypothetically use his future sperm in order to cash in big on his future vet money. Ca-ching!
Gentlemen: To fully protect your Essence, I suggest you ejaculate directly into a paper shredder, douse the results with hot sauce and arsenic, and pour the entire concoction into the nearest garbage disposal. Then flee the country.
ithliana: I especially like her claims about how she really just challenged an incorrect statement, and didn’t MEAN to argue (until she was challenged).
Which is, at root, a claim that she did intend to argue; she just didn’t expect her argument to be challenged; i.e. she expected to be allowed to make the argument and have it accepted prima facie
John Anderson (my Jo): So basically a guy says that men should be careful not to impregnate women and that has the feminists panties in a bunch. Had he said use a condom or get a vasectomy so you don’t impregnate a woman, feminists would all cheer, but he said don’t impregnate her so you don’t need to pay child support, now it’s an issue.
Nope. He said “don’t let her enslave you, and take all your money by stealing your sperm.”
Which is very different.
Feminists continue to judge a man’s masculinity by the amount of sex he has
I had a whole article dedicated to me. That makes me the front runner.
Is that what this is, a campaign speech.†
My take on troll is that it’s someone who comes in to stir up trouble. It doesn’t require that they be acting in a cause they don’t believe in. It’s not about disagreement. We have things we disagree about. It’s about tone, and tenor. When someone comes in and misrepresents the parent argument (as you did above) that’s trollish, because it’s lying about what was actually said.
Which is fundamentally dishonest; even though I believe you think women are conniving, and underhanded and hate men.
One of the comments you pointed out about taking sperm from a used condom, do you not think that would be predatory?
Way to qualify the hypothetical. Do I not think it would be predatory? As asked… yes, if such a thing were to happen, that would be predatory.
Feel free to show me examples (note the plural), where it has been proven that was the means of impregnation.
I’m hurt although I admit I only came back here because of a link someone left me on pandagon.
See, you DO think you are a special snowflake. Goof off all year and then demand the prize. Be a Man, and earn your rewards. Tom Martin, and Varpole, and even; in his naive bathos, have been trying to make an impression. It’s not the impression they wanted, but you… you think you can just claim it by fiat, as if by right.
It is to laugh.
† I only remember, and just enough that when reminded I went, “Oh yeah”, because of the predictable play on your name I made. Even NWO, or Meller, in their faded glory, are more relevant to the everyday operation of the community; as such they eclipse you, the way Jupiter blocks Ganymede.
Jo-bob: ” A man who opts not to have sex with women because he’s afraid that one of these partners might steal his sacred semen from the condom afterwards, on the other hand? Yes, he’s a misogynistic twit,”
So do you think that there are any reasons a woman might have for withholding sex in a relationship that would make her a misandric twit?
These things are not like each other.
Example A: A man refrains from sex with all women, on the basis of an irrational fear.
Example B: A woman refrains from sex with one man, without our having any idea why.
That’s comparing apples to road apples.
Shaennon: I worked for a veterinary clinic. As you say all the vets were women. They were good, and two of them were “exotic” vets (so we had a lot of cool patients, and some cool clients too). The money was good, but $100,000 isn’t realistic.
In private practice, that takes a serious clientele (and specialisation… a horse vet can manage that; if s/he has contacts with do things like serious Warmbloods, or fools trying to make a fortune breeding for the track), but a dog and cat vet? No. The overhead is huge (front desk, techs, drug control, cost of drugs on hand, lab contracts, phones, rent, equipment, anasthesia…. there is a reason lots of vets also run day kennels… it’s what pays the rent).
Esp. not since the vet world is going the way of human healthcare, in a lot of ways, with chains like VGA paying straight wages, and no way in hell do they pay the vets 6 figures.
Ice: I’m sorry of we scared you. If it makes you feel better… SJS isn’t as common from ibuprofen, and what you want to worry about is hives, or any other patchy changes to your skin.
I’ve spent years on various levels of serious NSAIDS, yes. SJS is bad. Yes, it’s more common than people expect, no it’s not all that common.
@Argenti Aertheri
“We don’t believe a woman I entitled to a man’s sperm, we believe y’all are seriously exaggerating the odds of “spam jacking”. That is, car jacking is more likely, rape I more likely, being hi by lightening is more likely.”
Do you really think that sperm-jacking is rare?
Do you think that it is rare when woman secretly stops using birth control pills when she really wants (maby at the time when it is her last chance to have kids) children?
If I would be female, I would do it.
Do you really think that sperm-jacking is rare?
Yes.
Thanks, HowardBannister. I guess I never gorkked that the Canadian guy was named Pierre.
Or grokked, even.
So the only reason you’re not out there spermjacking people is because you’re not female, not because it’s wrong or anything. So what methods of non-consensual child-creation are you employing?
Why?
@Thinker11235
Why? To get married? Just to have a child? To screw a man over (while screwing yourself much worse in terms of time and money)? There are no reasons to do this that do not involve either massive fails in logic or a complete disregard for other people coupled with a massive logic fail.
Or what CassandraSays said. 🙂
“There are no reasons to do this that do not involve either massive fails in logic or a complete disregard for other people coupled with a massive logic fail.”
Yup. Thinker11235 has a pretty low opinion of himself.
@CassandraSays
Because if I would be the parent (mother and not father) who decides how my children will be raised, then I would like to have children.
@MollyRen
It isn’t surprising that the MRM hates men almost as much as they hate women, but Thinker11235’s level of self-hatred is actually surprising. Or, maybe, he hates women so much that he thinks if he were one up would be down, black would be white, and immoral actions with almost no rewards would become the right things to do plus kids who raise themselves.
@Thinker11235
For the most parts, mothers really only decide how children should be raised when the father opts out of the decisions either explicitly or implicitly. And, of course, if you want someone who believes that fathers should be more involved and more like traditional mothers, there are feminists and feminism.
But there are plenty of other ways to have children. If a woman doesn’t want another person involved in how she raises her kids, she could always use a sperm bank to get pregnant. And she would, if she wasn’t a projection invented by really paranoid men who hate women.
@Some Gal Not Bored at All
“Why? To get married? Just to have a child? To screw a man over (while screwing yourself much worse in terms of time and money)? There are no reasons to do this that do not involve either massive fails in logic or a complete disregard for other people coupled with a massive logic fail.”
I would do it when I am in long time (more then 10 years) relationship and it is my last chance to have kids.
Yep, spermjacking sure is the only way to ensure that a child will be raised the way you want. Sperm donors don’t exist.
There’s a hell of a lot more wrong with this line of logic, but I’m taking i one stupid argument at a time.
Oh, snap!
Also, I know this is obvious to everyone who isn’t a paranoid narcissist, but just because if you were a woman you’d be a horrible person it does not logically follow that most women are horrible people. If your essential nature is to be selfish and awful, well, that sucks for both you and the people around you, but it has nothing to do with your gender.
@CassandraSays
My girlfriend secretly stopped using pills. She hoped that I will change my mind about having kids when see my kid born. I understand why she did think like this, but men will usually not change their mind.
Because if I would be the parent (mother and not father) who decides how my children will be raised, then I would like to have children.
So much fail.
1: Children are not toys, nor pets, nor plants.
2: Parents work together to rear them.
3: Even if you were female, you wouldn’t need to “steal” sperm to get pregnant.
Millions (the vast majority) of US citizen have kids every year. It doesn’t take subterfuge.
So… what do you think you would gain by lying, and acting the asshole, to get pregnant?
What’s the payoff?
I would do it when I am in long time (more then 10 years) relationship and it is my last chance to have kids.
Oh, I see, you are a controlling jerk, who would refrain from telling her partner how important kids are to their sense of well-being and then take advantage of their trust to do something they weren’t interested in.
You don’t plan to act the asshole, you plan to be an evil sonofabitch.
Man, you’re a piece of work, since a reasonable person has to assume you have this sort of attitude now.
You’re a fucktard. A shit-stain on the wall. No sense of respect for other people. No sense that they have any right to agency on their own. I pray to God that you never have children, nor work with children; nor any other person of limited capacity; because you are an abusive shit.