It’s official: Men’s Rights Activists are more obsessed with their “precious bodily fluids” than Dr. Strangelove’s General Jack D. Ripper. Over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, many of the regulars are celebrating Boxing Day by sitting around on their computers worrying about evil predatory succubi burgling their sperm. Check out this little post, which has gotten 90 upvotes so far:
Yes, he really did just say “It’s as if your penis shoots magic IOUs every time you ejaculate.” If this is true, a lot of guys owe millions if not billions of dollars to a lot of old socks.
In the comments, other Men’s Rightsers shared their deepest concerns about the specter of spermburgling. SuicideBanana warns that the enemy may already be in your bed:
Reconstrucht worries about the money-hungry sperm-hunters lurking in bars:
And one future veterinarian contemplates giving up dating, in order to protect himself from the hypothetical women — sorry, soul sucking succubi — who might hypothetically use his future sperm in order to cash in big on his future vet money. Ca-ching!
Gentlemen: To fully protect your Essence, I suggest you ejaculate directly into a paper shredder, douse the results with hot sauce and arsenic, and pour the entire concoction into the nearest garbage disposal. Then flee the country.
Narcissism is sad:
“Sorry, for most guys on the thread it probably would be, but like what one of the three women said to me when watching me practice Taekwondo in a park. You must have a strong lower body. Once you’ve gone martial artist,, nothing less will do.”
Some women don’t want your baby. And once again, we get that you’re are trying to drive home that you’re so hot, women proposition you all the time. If you don’t trust any of them, by all means, don’t have sex with them. Otherwise….
Apparently, if you do martial arts, you can no longer interact with a woman without it ending in sex.
Which is terrifying, given that the average age of people I see at martial arts studios seems to be about 11.
Yeah, katz, I’ve noticed that too. Wow.
Forgot you were talking to “feminist men”?
Or perhaps you didn’t know that Feminist men have better sex
Then again, I’ve probably done more martial arts than you have; in a much wider variety of styles. It’s not as if I’ve ever suffered from a want of romantic interest.
But what would I know, I’m just a feminist man.
Well that was disturbing. Luckily John Anderson is entirely imaginary.
Well, your sexytimes count to me, Argenti! And speaking as a cis, heterosexual woman in a long, monogamous relationship with a very athletic man, there is a lot more to sex than thrusting for us too. And numbers. Numbers are meaningless within a relationship.
Do you have an allergy to math? On the high end, sperm jacking might be a risk to 2% of men, while rape happens to, pay attention now, 20-25% of women.
Also, a man being celibate to avoid sperm jacking would be comparable to a woman being celibate to avoid pregnancy. Do try to get your analogies correct.
To answer your questions:
“If a man decides to abstain from sexual interactions with women because of that concern, is that misogynistic?”
Possibly, though celibacy is his choice, so no, unless he goes around claiming this is common and women are just out for his sperm.
“First question, if he accepts a 2% chance or if he believes the chance is higher and does not feel that it is an acceptible risk, is he being misogynistic?”
See above, add “and he’s delusional”
“Would a stranded woman who doesn’t feel that the risk is worth accepting a ride from a male stranger at night, but would have no problem accepting it from a woman be misandric?”
Ignoring that you fail at analogies, the risk is much higher, and not just rape, but assault in general, and possibly murder. There’s a reason hitchhiking is far less common than it used to be. Also, take it up with the people who say that if she accepts that ride she’s of course going to be raped so never ever take a ride from at strange man! Note that this is where the feminist idea of telling men not to rape comes in.
“I try to be civil, but now you’re just being a dumb ass. It’s precisely those comments I’m referring to saying a man should use a condom or a man should abstain. Provide a link where any feminist commenter on this thread has ever suggested that a woman do something or avoid doing something to avoid sexual assault.”
Seriously, wtf did analogies ever do to you?
Furthermore, I have met Pecunium and didn’t have sex with him.
But maybe he was just courteous enough to turn down his irresistible martial arts sex ray.
Um, so I dig through the older posts and found this comment from Arks:
Source.
Can someone knowledgeable in Arks-speak tell me what the “fanny market” is?
Shit… That was clumsy. I don’t think my lack of want in romantic life has squadoosh to do with the martial arts I’ve studied.
The marital ones (communication, empathy, supportive action) those have been relevant.
But the women who saw me doing dead-steel fencing, or whip work, or kendo or archery, or boxing, or tai chi, or aikido, or judo, or US Army Combatives, or Combat Pistol, or pike drill, or knife fighting, or rapier… not really material to my sex life. Dancing has been more likely to have someone decide she wants into my pants.
Actually, of the women for whom my martial arts have been a factor… the interest on my part has been less; mostly because I don’t enjoy being seen as nothing more than fucktoy.
Go figure.
@ hellkell
“John: all abortions except for those done with RU486 are surgical abortions, You really don’t know how any of this works, do you? Too bad that lack of knowledge doesn’t shut you up.”
I think all are medical abortions. If you don’t need to cut skin or bone, I’m unsure you can categorize them as surgical. So a doctor using a tongue depressor is performing exploratory surgery, real smart. Oh yeah, how about an ear doctor using an “alligator”. That’s got to be surgery too. I guess you can STFU now and we won’t need to be hearing from you.
katz: Well we were in a public place. Didn’t seem fair to all the women who might have been affected.
“Id agree that there should be no unilateral adoptions for men (financial abortion) if women were required to pay child support to adoptive parents in cases where the biological father has not consented to the adoption. Most feminists would disagree, but that just exposes the fact that they don’t believe that child support is actually for the benefit of the child. Otherwise why opposition to making women pay it? It benefits the child after all and if she wants to avoid it, get the father to consent.”
You’re killing me here John. The non-custodial parent pays child support, assuming zir income is high enough (in comparison to the custodial parent) for that to be relevant. In other words, feminists support women paying child support.
In cases where a child is put up for adoption, the adoptive parents take on responsibility for the child. The entire fucking point in many cases is that the best interests of the child are filled by not being dependent on the parent(s).
And I used to work for a law firm, in a position that required reading those legally required notifications. To the unknown father of the baby born to [mother] on [date] was common.
Also, in Old Home week:
Source.
“Id agree that there should be no unilateral adoptions for men (financial abortion) if women were required to pay child support to adoptive parents in cases where the biological father has not consented to the adoption.
WTF? In an adoption the adoptive parents gain all the rights, and obligations which come of being the parents. They go into it eyes open.
Your “rule” is nothing more than a way to punish women for being an autonomous being. If she doesn’t agree to get a man’s permission to put a child up for adoption, then she has to pay for it. That, or keep the child (i.e. pay for it, even more).
And the man…. he gets to walk away.
Claire — thank you 🙂 and sorry, I didn’t mean to imply that cis heterosexual sex is all PiV thrusting, but figured I should maybe not triple post to amend my statements.
Let me try this again, there’s more to sex than what John seems to think, even is the cis heterosexual sexytimes I’m assuming he’s part of.
“Can someone knowledgeable in Arks-speak tell me what the “fanny market” is?”
Crotches available to men / him. Not sure he ever got that women have agency and actually choose their partners and that referring to them as mere fannies to be had seriously reduces your odds of being liked.
Oh lordy. First of all, not all women ovulate. Some have gone through menopause (but still have sex, so are relevant to this discussion!). Some are on hormonal birth control that prevents ovulation (the pill, for one) or hormonal treatments. Some have had hysterectomies.
Second, someone ovulates when an egg leaves their fallopian tubes. Google tells me that the egg can live for 12-24 hours. I was under the impression that ovulation lasted for up to 3 days. Being generous, of the fraction of women that are ovulating, that’s 10.7 percent, not 25 percent. So, less than 10 percent.
“You can choose not to believe me if you want. I just don’t see how you folks can live in a world where the De Beers group manipulates the world diamond supply, and yet it’s such an impossible stretch to think that maybe women have been doing the same with vaginas.”
Yep, women are all in one vagina denying conspiracy, can’t possibly be that you’re such an ass that no one wants to deal with you. Women = a group with a board and stock symbol.
Oh man… that was the “little girls wear bikinis to the mall thread; which is as bad as bad as men raping women” thread.
NWO before he lost it. Which is fucked up… to think that sort of shit was him as not having lost it.
More Arks:
Yes, that says “slobbering crotch maw.”
Source.
“You can choose not to believe me if you want. I just don’t see how you folks can live in a world where the De Beers group manipulates the world diamond supply, and yet it’s such an impossible stretch to think that maybe women have been doing the same with vaginas.”
You didn’t know that vaginas come from mines, and women allocate them in a blind trust, to a limited group of suppliers?
Just like De Beers does with diamonds?
Where have you been?
@ katz and Shiraz
If he was correct I’d be rather concerned for all the little boys who go to local karate school. Maybe if Melissa shows up on this thread she’ll give us all a lecture on how this means that kids are irresponsible for taking martial arts classes.
It’s also hilarious to watch him stroking his own ego, since going by his physical description of himself he’d be of no sexual interest at all to me, even if you were to put aside his horrible personality.
No apologies necessary, Argenti! Thrusting is important sometimes! It’s just not everything (and dare I say anywhere near the top of the list) in any relationship where good sex happens.