It’s official: Men’s Rights Activists are more obsessed with their “precious bodily fluids” than Dr. Strangelove’s General Jack D. Ripper. Over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, many of the regulars are celebrating Boxing Day by sitting around on their computers worrying about evil predatory succubi burgling their sperm. Check out this little post, which has gotten 90 upvotes so far:
Yes, he really did just say “It’s as if your penis shoots magic IOUs every time you ejaculate.” If this is true, a lot of guys owe millions if not billions of dollars to a lot of old socks.
In the comments, other Men’s Rightsers shared their deepest concerns about the specter of spermburgling. SuicideBanana warns that the enemy may already be in your bed:
Reconstrucht worries about the money-hungry sperm-hunters lurking in bars:
And one future veterinarian contemplates giving up dating, in order to protect himself from the hypothetical women — sorry, soul sucking succubi — who might hypothetically use his future sperm in order to cash in big on his future vet money. Ca-ching!
Gentlemen: To fully protect your Essence, I suggest you ejaculate directly into a paper shredder, douse the results with hot sauce and arsenic, and pour the entire concoction into the nearest garbage disposal. Then flee the country.
He is spiraling into incoherency. His imaginary Evil Feminist has him all het up, or he’s drunk.
Tut tut. People who can’t hold their booze shouldn’t comment while under the influence. It’s like he’s asking to be made a fool of.
(See what I did there, John?)
Aw, kitteh…:)
*Ahem* I meant alleged, by the way.
Hekell, did you say drunk? Should I have a cup of wine so that we’re all on equal footing?
Perhaps the IEF is pouring drinks down his throat.
I think you’d need more like a quart of wine, Shiraz.
Hmm, I don’t have a quart of wine, Cassandra. Maybe if I look hard enough I can find some glue to sniff…*looking around anxiously*
Given the quantity you’d need to keep up with John in terms of incoherence there’s no way you can do it with good wine – too expensive. This is definitely a job for the two buck chuck.
Shiraz: forget wine, go straight to liquor if you want John’s level.
*laughing* Two buck chuck? What about Barefoot or Yellowtail? I have some of that.
I’m still not sure what he was trying to accuse us of. Trying to keep a contraceptive pill from men? Honestly, why would we? I wouldn’t conduct myself any differently if it were suddenly on the shelf.
Like most MRAs there wasn’t really much of a point behind his rants other than that feminists are evil so of course they must be out to (insert conspiracy theory here).
I just caught up with this thread and, honestly, I don’t think John even knows what he’s talking about anymore. Incoherent barely covers it; he’s absurd. He can’t keep from contradicting himself every few sentences and he’s arguing against his own purely hypothetical scenarios.
Nobinayamu: He’s also willing to completely abandon lines of argument… which of course leaves them hanging, refuted, but not acknoweldged.
The report doesn’t say anything about the use of protection in those cases, nor does it indicate how many of those rapes were about stealing sperm. You’re making a huge leap to assume that those male rape victims were victimized to steal sperm, rather than victimized because they had the misfortune to be around a rapist.
Before you say it, I’ll point out that every anti-rape activist I have ever known and every organization that fights rape wants ALL rape to end, including female-against-male rape.
I’d also point out that in the lifetime stats of that same report (tables 2.1 and 2.2) you have about 26.5 million male victims to 74.9 million female victims. The yearly numbers are 6 million to 7.8 million, respectively. Anti-rape activism focuses on women because far more women are raped than men during the course of their lifetimes. The male victims report one rapist or attacker per lifetime, compared to multiple for women.
Thank you for confirming that. I was worried that I was drunk.
I am having a little troublie with the idea of deciding whether or not to use a condom to prevent pregnancy or std being in some fashion like not drinking or falling asleep to avoid some creeper sticking a dick in you. Cuz hello?
Mister Anderson, you are not worthy.
Steele needs to lend JA some of his excess punctuation.
Nah, still wouldn’t help.
A few; of his redundant, excess, unneeded; words, might help too.
Fuck, I dunno what’s going on. It just strikes that if you don’t want to have kids,you take responsibility for your own fertility no matter what the other person says. I have refused to have sex when the guy refused to wear a condom because er, not just pregnancy, but STDs (I grew up in the age of ‘terrify everyone about AIDS’).
This thread! Pecunium, what did you use for your citation needed if? I want a “they’re called condoms” one!
John: Even a 10% permanent sterilization of men who seem to simply be looking for a temporary interruption is unacceptable. I’m going to look this up, but I’m going to ask anyway. What does this particular pill actually do to a man? I thought that with vasectomy ..that it was like a mechanical process: sperm, seminal fluid, hormones all intact, untouched, not damaged. A lot of citations are needed here but what is under the “contraceptive use” is disturbing to me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gossypol
Holy crap, John: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azoospermic
Look , I was thinking that men just wanted the temporary contraceptive here, so you tell me: what types of contraceptives are men looking for?
Your interpretation of my comment is wrong. When a woman doesn’t want to be pregnant it’s up to her to use contraceptives to prevent pregnancy regardless of what a man is using. I’m all about preventative measures/birth control, personal responsibility and accountability. This speaks of my own gender (women) to not (hmmm, how to put) just put the burden of contraceptives all on men. She/we must still do our part to prevent. This is not due to a lack of trust that men won’t take their pill, just that the more b/c the better. Don’t let your guard down until you’re ready for kids. You follow?
Argenti: I didn’t make it. It was a gift before I took to shunning Ruby. I was saying that a lot, and someone made it for me. I still find it useful from time to time.
“I thought that with vasectomy ..that it was like a mechanical process: sperm, seminal fluid, hormones all intact, untouched, not damaged.”
Yep, and depending how exactly it was done it, and how long ago, can be reversible.
“Pregnancy rates range widely in published series, with a large study in 1991 observing the best outcome of 76% pregnancy success rate with vasectomy reversals performed within 3 years or less of the original vasectomy, dropping to 53% for reversals 3-8 years out from the vasectomy, 44% for reversals 9-14 years out from the vasectomy, and 30% for reversals 15 or more years after the vasectomy.[9] BPAS cites the average pregnancy success rate of a vasectomy reversal is around 55% if performed within 10 years, and drops to 25% if performed over 10 years.[14]” via wiki.
And that isn’t accounting for possible infertility in one/both partners, unrelated to vasectomy (eg if the woman just can’t get pregnant, it isn’t accounted for in that data)
“Argenti: I didn’t make it. It was a gift before I took to shunning Ruby. I was saying that a lot, and someone made it for me. I still find it useful from time to time.”
Damn, I want one!
Well, Glitterfy seems to be where it was made But you’ll need to do a “view image” to get the link.
You could also try Picasion, which seems to be a bit better suited. I don’t know how permanent either of them is for links, so you might want to arrange other hosting.