It’s official: Men’s Rights Activists are more obsessed with their “precious bodily fluids” than Dr. Strangelove’s General Jack D. Ripper. Over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, many of the regulars are celebrating Boxing Day by sitting around on their computers worrying about evil predatory succubi burgling their sperm. Check out this little post, which has gotten 90 upvotes so far:
Yes, he really did just say “It’s as if your penis shoots magic IOUs every time you ejaculate.” If this is true, a lot of guys owe millions if not billions of dollars to a lot of old socks.
In the comments, other Men’s Rightsers shared their deepest concerns about the specter of spermburgling. SuicideBanana warns that the enemy may already be in your bed:
Reconstrucht worries about the money-hungry sperm-hunters lurking in bars:
And one future veterinarian contemplates giving up dating, in order to protect himself from the hypothetical women — sorry, soul sucking succubi — who might hypothetically use his future sperm in order to cash in big on his future vet money. Ca-ching!
Gentlemen: To fully protect your Essence, I suggest you ejaculate directly into a paper shredder, douse the results with hot sauce and arsenic, and pour the entire concoction into the nearest garbage disposal. Then flee the country.
Fail again. The above certainly can deny a woman an abortion in terms of timing. These appointments take time, notification takes time, and these are attempts to stall abortions past the legal trimester limit.
You think you’re smart, you should be able to figure out why parental notification could end up denying an abortion.
Why am I not surprised that John hasn’t bothered to find out how pregnancy and abortion actually work? Not to mention family dynamics.
@ hellkell
“John, no one here has ever claimed any such thing. If you think otherwise, go ahead, find the quote. I’ll wait.”
Jessica | December 27, 2012 at 2:45 am
“a woman has a 1 in 6 chance of being raped in her life.
a man has a 1 in a million chance of being sperm burgled.
ha ha though. the false equivalence was funny.”
My question to Jessica
John Anderson | December 29, 2012 at 8:01 am
“The CDC in the 2010 NISVS estimated that 1,267,000 men were forced to penetrate someone else and that 79% of their rapists were women. So about 1,000,000 men were raped by women. So are you saying that when a man is raped his body has a way of shutting down that whole sperm producing thing or are you saying that a woman can’t get pregnant from sperm acquired when raping a man or maybe you’re just supporting rape culture and you’re saying that an erection = consent.”
I suppose that she could also be suggesting that when a woman rapes a man, she’s entitled to the sperm as a bonus or because he released it into her even if it was against his will she didn’t actually steal it.
Cassandra: biology and how the fuck it works is apparently women’s work to Mr. Anderson.
@john
You are aware that you just described the choice between a surgical abortion and a child, right? Feminists consider this very realistic for certain stages of pregnancy. (Medical abortion – pills – is an option as well sometimes, but c’mon! Are you this stupid?)
I think he’s being disingenuous about the addition of ultrasound requirements and all that jazz, though. It’s obvious to anyone who isn’t a complete imbecile that part of the point of those measures is to run down the clock to the point where abortion will no longer be an option legally due to timing.
I’m not ruling out his being a complete imbecile.
bloody blockquotes
@The Kitteh’s Unpaid Help
It was an awesome response in any case.
The FDA might actually be holding it up for safety reasons if there really is a 10% chance of permanent sterility. Now, I personally would place that level of risk in the “user gets to decide if that’s acceptable to them” category, but it does fall within the range of risk within which it might be expected for the FDA to consider the risk unacceptable and push back on the drug company to go do more R&D and produce a safer product.
Short version – if it is being held up for that reason that’s just the FDA being the FDA, not a feminist conspiracy to deny men choices. It may also be due to the drug companies not wanting to get sued.
Cassandra: I think you misunderstood the pill. It seems to be perfectly effective as a form of BC, it also seems to cause permanent sterility in 10 percent of men who use it.
@ pecunium
See later comments.
@ thebewilderness
“Maybe requiring women to abort? I have a suspicion they would consider that a very realistic option that they should have.”
Most MRAs support the financial abortion option. It removes the possibility that a woman would trick a man into fathering a child. I think some MRAs might consider forced abortion proper in cases where women have gotten pregnant from raping men.
Why do you think it’s OK that people in your movement think this way?
(Please note – in cases where the father was raped I would 100% agree that he should not bear any financial responsibility for any resulting children.)
It’s odd how feminists are all well if a man doesn’t want to take the risk that a woman is not on the pill he should. Now if a man were to say if a woman doesn’t want to take the risk of a man taking advantage of her being drunk then she shouldn’t drink. He’d be accused of victim blaming. We be told teach don’t rape not don’t get raped. When women are the predators it’s not don’t trick a man into impregnating you. It’s don’t let a woman trick you into impregnating her.
Most MRAs support the financial abortion option.
Of course they do…. it allows them to “fuck ’em and forget ’em”.
None of that pesky responsibility, and they get to be both passive-aggressive, and holier than thou.
@ David
You’re telling me that I don’t even rate being on the ballot. Couldn’t I be like first runner up so if they screw up next year and turn all feminist, I get the title?
I just read about that d00d! He wanted her to marry him and when she refused he wanted her to abort and when she refused he wanted a financial abortion. Unless of course she was willing to marry him. Criminy! Creepy d00dz is creepy. And you, Mister Anderson, are a very creepy d00d.
Some Gal – aww ta! 🙂
Oh, not “financial abortion” again. That wasn’t about men who’d been raped (and I too don’t think they should bear responsibility). It was about men who’d had consensual sex refusing to take any responsibility, financial or otherwise, for actual living children they’d fathered. That is not abortion of any kind.
Again I’ll ask you to provide evidence that anyone here thinks that way. There were comments above stating the exact opposite; that a man should use a condom as well if he doesn’t want to take the risk. Are you MRAs allergic to any responsibility? I see you all mewling about it when you can use “responsibility” to punish women, but heaven forfend you poor dears ever get off your asses and take some for yourselves. I know, I know, shit just happens, right?
And stop with the vote begging. You are not worthy.
Oh hey, check it out! He decided to completely ignore the fact that I addressed that specific scenario and said that if men weren’t comfortable with that risk then it would be better for them to insist on a condom just to be safe!
He really needs to stop talking to his imaginary friend The Evil Feminist.
“…he should” WHAT? Finish the sentence if you want an answer.
And what the fuck do you think you’re doing conflating people in a consensual relationship being concerned about unwanted pregnancy with RAPE? That’s what you’re doing bringing in the “don’t get drunk so men won’t take advantage of you” line. It also conveniently exonerates the man, as if rape is just something that happens, not an active choice by one person to violate another.
Are you drunk posting? Your comments are getting incoherent.
Um this:
“It’s odd how feminists are all well if a man doesn’t want to take the risk that a woman is not on the pill he should. Now if a man were to say if a woman doesn’t want to take the risk of a man taking advantage of her being drunk then she shouldn’t drink. He’d be accused of victim blaming.”
If you’re having consenual sex with someone you don’t trust, and you don’t want to get them pregnant, I’d think you’d be silly not to wear a condom — whatever birth control they claim to be on. That’s something you can control on your end.
If a woman overpowers a man and intercourse happens against his will, he’s a rape victim.
A woman who is overpowered by a man and is forced to have sex is a rape victim…
You’re bringing drinking and getting drunk into it, but I don’t know why. Are all the elleged sperm jack victims claiming they were overpowered and forced to have sex while they were mentally and physically vulnerable? Otherwise, I don’t understand what kind of parallel you’re trying make.
Shiraz – great minds! 😉