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Merry Man Boobz Christmas and/or Happy Tuesday! (Also, nominate your favorite troll of 2012.)

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Merry Christmas, to everyone who celebrates it. To everyone else, Happy Tuesday!

After you’ve finished off your Christmas and/or Tuesday dinner, please nominate your favorite troll(s) for Man Boobz’ Second Annual Troll of the Year competition!

Also, there’s no reason why we can’t have more than one category for the troll awards. Suggest some inventive categories!  Most Persistent, perhaps?

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LBT
LBT
11 years ago

RE: talacris

You can try to be the Inception of trolling… but you’re no Inception. I know you like trolling, but you can’t put trolling in your trolling about trolling. There is no deeper to go.

RE: Kittehs

Enh, I think everyone banned Al because it was becoming really obvious that he WOULD NOT LET GO, and the place was bad for him. Seeing as how he’s been coming back like a herpes sore for… fuck, six months? A year?

RE: Historophilia

I think that’s a cool idea, and I have some interesting US folks to pop up:

Matthew Henson
Emma Goldmann
Hell, I’ll have to turn to the Books of Lists again…

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

G’day LBT! Rogan, is that you?

Historophilia – I remembered someone I found about on Hark, a Vagrant, who might catch your eye for your blog through sheer awesomeness – Chiune Sugihara.

Diogenes The Cynic
Diogenes The Cynic
11 years ago

talacaris

The Kitteh does not appreciate your use of a dictionary as she prefers to redefine the world to how she sees it.

For example:

“Don’t bother with the dictionary-definition effort, talacaris. Fact remains that the trolls here are as I described, and you don’t cut it at all. The whole reason they come here is because they’re misogynists…”

So, now hatred of women is somehow defined as being disliked by The Kitteh.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Hmmm, at least Kitteh’s is not an insecure git who thinks they’re oh-so-smart yet fails miserably every time they open their yap. You, however..

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Diogenes really is Al The Second. For some odd reason he thinks that he’s part of the community here, and that if he isn’t yet he can become so just by pestering us enough.

For Tom, I think someone should embroider some of his accusations against LSE on a cushion, along with the word DISMISSED and the amount that he now has to pay the for wasting everyone’s time.

Steele
Steele
11 years ago

I see that I’ve been placed on this registry for selection for this circlejerk “Troll of the Year” despite being barred from contributing; I cannot defend myself or provide context. To this I say – typical Boobzland; typical dishonesty. Contemptible.

pecunium
11 years ago

Diogenes: “Don’t bother with the dictionary-definition effort, talacaris. Fact remains that the trolls here are as I described, and you don’t cut it at all. The whole reason they come here is because they’re misogynists…”

So, now hatred of women is somehow defined as being disliked by The Kitteh.

Could you explain how you got from A to B, because I’m seeing a lot of nothing in between your statement, and the conclusion.

LBT: As I recall Mr. Al got the boot for the most common reason; a directed comment of desire to see someone raped. I say most common because, IIRC it’s about three of the small selection of the banned who’ve done it (Mr. Al, Brandon and one who is some form of my memory playing tricks on me).

Some Gal Not Bored at All

@Diogenes

Are you seconding talacaris’s nomination? Are you agreeing with his definition of trolling? Are yoou claiming that’s our trolls are not misogynists?

Are you adding anything of any value?

Some Gal Not Bored at All

*Are you claiming that not Are yoou claiming that’s.

Why, autocorrect, why?

clairedammit
clairedammit
11 years ago

Talacaris’s Five Point Plan to Prosperity

1. Declare yourself Troll of the Year
2. Explain that you are only a troll if you display ignorance and a lack of logic.
3. ?
4. Profit!!1!

Diogenes The Cynic
Diogenes The Cynic
11 years ago

@Some gal

I think that posts should create discussion. If they’re just flames, or flamebait, its trolling.
If a poster can advance the conversation rationally, and not by being a jackass, they’re not a troll.

And, the consensus here is that I am a troll. Fine whatever. But the accusation that

I am a troll
trolls are misogynists
—————————(therefore)
I am a misogynist

Does not hold.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Aw, hi Steele! There is no defense for you, your work pretty much speaks for itself. Besides, we don’t need another 10 page treatise on why misandry IS TOO a thing.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

LOL LOL however hard you try, Dumbass, however much you do what I already described with your attempted sniping at regulars, you’re not gonna get there. Hate men? Mr Kittehs’ and the guys here and the guys I work with would be quite surprised. I’m not sure I’d even say I hate misogynists (and you’re a pretty low-grade one, troll-wise – more like a mild case of tinea than anything else). Despise them, definitely, but hate? Meh.

And reading for context is another of your failings. Talacaris was trying to say that the trolls here don’t count as trolls because they’re sincere in their ugly beliefs, and zie was going by the narrow definition of trolling insincerely, just to upset people. I was pointing out that trolling on Man Boobz doesn’t fit that narrow meaning, and the serious candidates for Troll of the Year aren’t doing it for the lulz. Nothing to do with “what I believe,” just observation.

But don’t let anything get in the way of your brainfax, O genius who thinks research is intellectual dishonesty.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Oh, Diogenes:

If a poster can advance the conversation rationally, and not by being a jackass, they’re not a troll.

You are a troll. You don’t advance conversation, you barge in where you’re not wanted and shit on the carpet.

pecunium
11 years ago

Ah… logic fail.

Even if Kitteh’s thinks that only misogynists can be trolls, it doesn’t follow this is the working definition of troll.

It also presumes you aren’t misogynistic; about which the jury is still in deliberation. You have certainly argued for positions which support misogynists. You think those positions are in some way rational. That is, at the very least, engaging in apologetics for misogyny; which makes you (at the very least) a fellow traveller.

Me, I don’t think being a misogynist makes one a troll. That said, I’ve not seen a misogynists come to manboobz and not be trollish. I think it’s the mockery. They dislike not being taken seriously and it flusters them, at which point they get too emotionally invested, lose the needed detachment and lash out.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

Hi Steele! Don’t worry, you don’t have to post anything to bump up your chances of getting Troll of the Year. You’re looking pretty good. There’s a vile fine body of work for us to judge you by. Last-minute campaigning isn’t necessary.

clairedammit
clairedammit
11 years ago

Contemptible is the new vile.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Sudden thought – is he under the impression that “rational” is a synonym for “boring”? Because that would explain a lot.

pecunium
11 years ago

I do like that Varpole thinks he’s “banned”, but still attempts to comment, not to Dave (which email would suffice to do), but to the group at large.

It’s as if he knows he’s not banned, just a trifle stifled.

Steele
Steele
11 years ago

Addendum: My point is that here at Boobzland; egregiously and moreso than at other communities, to disagree is to be labeled a troll; myself, The First Joe and Diogenes the Cynic, off the top of my head, have offered cogent rebuttals to your radical feminist, misandrist dogma that laughs at men’s issues and makes a hobby over trivializing male pain. But in Boobzland – to toe the dogma, makes one a troll. Since this is so, Manboobz has become a recursively radical community; any dissent is silence; thus, you become more and more misandrist and contemptible.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

Pecunium – yeah, I’m not arguing that trolls in general are misogynists. I’m talking about the Man Boobz ones, the nature of the trolling on this site. I’ve yet to see a troll who wasn’t, or at least, as you described the Yapper, a fellow traveller.

Like I said, context and comprehension aren’t really his thing.

Yoyo
Yoyo
11 years ago

Hell Kell you’re probably right (sigh). I suppose my vote for turd whoops troll of the year would also be for skinny buttocks Tom Martin and his all women are whores consistency.

pecunium
11 years ago

Steele: If you need, at this late date, to provide, “context” (above and beyond the actual words you wrote, and then chose to post; in the threads you chose to make those statements) you are a failure as a writer.

The words should speak for themselves.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

I remember Dave saying Steele had been sent to the corner of shame, but I don’t know whether he meant banned or moderated.

pecunium
11 years ago

Steele is moderated, because he’s a a bit monomaniacal, and a bore.

He’s also a trifle thick. He has his own blog in which he can give context, and he knows people here pay some attention to it: we are his only regular commenters.

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