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The Men’s Rights Movement: Much Less Popular Than Horse Porn

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When you spend as much time as we do here at Man Boobz scrutinizing the Men’s Rights movement, it’s easy to forget what a fringe phenomenon it is. So here are some charts from Google Trends – charting the frequency of certain search terms from 2004 until today — that help to put it all in perspective. (Thanks to Katz, Cloudiah and Cthulhu’s Intern in the comments for inspiring this post.)

That “rapidly growing” Men’s Rights movement that MRAs like to talk about? It may actually be stagnant or even shrinking, if searches for “men’s rights” are any indication. Despite a recent comeback, they’re still less than half of what they were at their height in 2004.

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Now let’s put that in perspective.

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No, there’s nothing wrong with that graph; it’s just that My Little Pony is so much more popular than Men’s Rights that the latter simply vanishes into the X axis.

But this graph is my favorite:

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Well, nothing will top that, but here’s a graph showing that people are a lot more concerned about misogyny than misandry — and, I would add, for good reason.

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Let’s see what other trends we can find!

(Oh, and sorry about the low quality pics; WordPress won’t let me embed the charts.)

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kiki
kiki
8 years ago

Cloudia, time travel too, or didja discover the fountain of youth?

Holy fucking shit, dude. Somebody who hasn’t mastered basic sarcasm really shouldn’t be throwing their intellectual weight around like you are. It’s painful to watch.

I bet you’ve met a lot of queens of France and monkeys’ uncles.

Paddy
Paddy
8 years ago

Diogenes The Comic said: “There are 360 degrees to a circle. Another Babylonian victory. People hardly use radians.”

Maybe not the best reason to de-lurk (hello everyone!), but Jesus wept, that has to be the daftest statement I’ve read in a long time! “People hardly use radians”, do they? Apart from every mathematician, scientist and engineer in the world?

Oy vey Diogenes, how do you manage to get by, you know, day to day, when you’re capable of writing something so ridiculous?

(Sorry, all, that this post has nothing to do with MRAs or horse porn, and sorry if I seem radian-obsessed. I’m not. Well, not much, anyway. And so what if I am? Just thought something needed to be said in support of the poor old radian.)

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
8 years ago

@Unimaginative – have you tried the Drama Button?

BlackBloc (@XBlackBlocX)

For a ‘civil rights activist’, Frankie, you’re quite cavalier about self-doxxing yourself. Facebook link directly in your poster profile, really?

pecunium
8 years ago

Is Frankie going to spend as much time spamming people with the videos as whomever it was spent putting up those posters?

That’s some sort of activism.

Myoo
Myoo
8 years ago

I forgot to say, “kitty” is far more popular than “kitties”.

Ice
Ice
8 years ago

After reading the entire thread, I only have one question… what the hell is going on in Pakistan?!

Kate Waters
Kate Waters
8 years ago

I explained the premise of this thread to my 67 year old mother. She is laughing herself silly right now over the overwhelming popularity of “Horse Porn”.

inurashii
inurashii
8 years ago

I just caught up on this thread and I want to know who’s going to reimburse me for that half hour and how.

Fibinachi
Fibinachi
8 years ago

You use radians to compute mathematical equations with a unit circle. It also allows you to work with and develop degrees and lines of trigonomic figures (In particular, triangles) and other neat tricks, like figure design.

When you’re taking an IB exam and doing calculations, it is important to know if your calculator is currently set to radian or degree computation.
Your results are wonky otherwise.
I know this because I did it. And spent math examination being confused at my results. I had set mine to degrees.
This is an anecdote to illustrate that the phrase “Hardly use radians” hardly applies to a real world examination taken by near 80.000 people in 2007, according to a quick google search. It’s more 5 years later.

Whether or whether not you can actually use the things in “The Real World, For Real Stuff” I don’t know. Not a mathematician by trade.
Still, I assume you probably do, because mathematics isn’t a battle that you can win. Competing systems of thought prove more accurate than others when used to describe phenomena.
I guess.
No one bludgeons someone else to death with a ruler.
In relation to math.
Well.
In relation to “Better Math”. Some mathematicians get a little angry at times.

Although having ruler fights and degree wrestling is fun.

As an objective lurker (I lurk near objectives and contrive to win when others are not around. We are using the phrase to refer to games with spatial objectives, right?), I’m going to say that no one here seems to be trolling (‘cept the obvious ones!).

You just seem a little miss informed, Mister Cynic.
That happens.
If it intersects with also being grandiose, it gets to be problematic.
You’re right about the suits though – that is an interesting factoid. It’s just that:

There is no such thing as a culture war. A culture can’t fight a war. You can use the phrase as a metaphor and imaginative description of what takes place when information is exchanged between parties, but “Culture” do not engage in wars. Not even The Culture, of Ian Banks fame. Except that one little war.
See? I can do obtuse literary references too.
It’s the same sort of idea that makes people describe a “Battle of the sexes”, a “War of minds”, a “slaughter at the football stadium” or a “Bloodbath dinner” when meeting the family for dinner. Imaginative descriptions provoke a sort of… idea that the things are related. Because it allows you to set up a neat bipartisan system where one side emerges victorious victor and obviously did so because of Great Destiny, Much Betterness and Virility and Righteous Awesome.
And not because of such fiddly details as population demographics, ease of usage or the soil situation over time in relation to feeding people and government / private investments in the spread of knowledge. No no. It was a great culture war of radians and degrees and radians were BANISHED into the wastes of the Platonic Ideals.

It’s easier that way. To compute in your mind. Because then it’s Us Versus Them, and They are always Wrong.

Try to avoid it. If I may quip: as a cynic, it seems unbecoming to engage in what I think you would describe as trite metaphors, groupthink, emotionally laden thinking, magical rituals and wrongful assertions because of ideals in ones head.

Merry Christmas otherwise, Diogenes, ManBoobz and Trolls.
Scented fucking candles.

pecunium
8 years ago

I like the comments (the poster was bizarre, and opaque. and guaranteed to confuse… it looks like someone trolling for a little, “action”.

OThomson [+2] 2 points 50 minutes ago (2|0)

I refuse to hold an abuser up as a martyr of the movement

LibertyOrDeathMRA [-1][S] 0 points 46 minutes ago (1|1)

Feminists have told you lies that you are reciting. Giving your kid a smack or whatever is not abuse.

OThomson [+2] 2 points 41 minutes ago (2|0)

Stop trying to invalidate my position by claiming it originates from Feminism.

I like the, implicit, understanding that Feminism can’t be right, and the throwaway, “Giving your kid a smack or whatever is not abuse.

heidihi
heidihi
8 years ago

@Cloudiah okay yes that poster wins. if not for the comment by the person who posted the link, I would have said that this is an effort by the manboobz street team. Actually, when zhe says “Giving your kid a smack or whatever is not abuse” maybe zhe is just an expert expert troll. At least, that is what i want to believe because if not ZOMG.

cloudiah
8 years ago

To be fair, the poster OP has a brand new Reddit account.

Ice
Ice
8 years ago

That poster confuses me.

Or should I say, my tumblr tainted mind sees things that the artist (and I use that term loosely) obviously hasn’t intended.

Is there any objective viewer out there capable of explaining poor little me wth is going on?

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

If the Manboobz Street Internet Team had done that, there would at least be an otter or a Hitler mustache, I think.

To my eye, it has the same saccharine sentimentality and fascination with maleness I associate with real MRAs, but I suppose it could be a troll. Especially given the username.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

@Ice, I think it’s trying to depict Ball’s body being consumed by flames, but since it does so in a really amateurish and half-hearted way it just looks like some sad, horny man made of jelly beans or marbles or peas is falling apart.

sidestinkappleeye
8 years ago

I say trolling. You have to notice the details. A real mra would have it uncircumcised.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

I take it back: he’s clearly made of army ants or termites.

Poor ant man. Ant Men’s Rights!

tcwill00
8 years ago

… Did anybody else click through to the Thomas Ball memorial poster and get a sketch of a torso, a couple of gestured-in legs, and a lovingly-detailed erection?

‘Cause that’s what I got and I wonder if I got trolled, or if someone seriously thinks that’s gonna get wheat-pasted up somewhere.

Falconer
8 years ago

Okay, never mind. Question answered. More questions raised.

Upon further ponderance, I have concluded: Nope.

sidestinkappleeye
8 years ago

Yep, lovingly detailed, someone was sniffing glue before making that.

Amnesia
Amnesia
8 years ago

I’ll go through and read all the comments later, but here is a trend that makes me very happy:
Magic Knight Rayearth vs. Men’s Rights
Yes, the manga I became obsessed over back in seventh grade, which was made back in ’93, is still way more popular than Men’s Rights. Go me.

I also tried fathers rights as a keyword. Well, Rayearth used to be more popular than that, but sadly that is no longer the case. However, all those keywords are still less popular than horse porn. See here.

Falconer
8 years ago

Y’know, it may be lovingly detailed as I described it, but don’t you think it’s a touch … optimistic?

katz
8 years ago

Okay, I am in love with that poster. It is the epitome of Poe’s Law–so goofy, bizarre, and shoddy that you immediately think “That can’t really be real,” but not quite goofy enough to be obviously a spoof (and actually bizarre and morbid enough to fall beyond what any of us would have even thought to make).

The sad thing is when I see those plain white posters with black Arial words, I think those are the best, because at least the lack of design elements at all means they’re lacking bad design elements.

Falconer
8 years ago

@Amnesia: CLAMP has brought joy to many, many people all over the world.

The MRAs just seem to sit in their task chairs and stew in their misery.

I’ll take ectomorphic kids with ocular hypertrophy over misery, any day.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

The sad thing is when I see those plain white posters with black Arial words, I think those are the best, because at least the lack of design elements at all means they’re lacking bad design elements.

Without a doubt, for Men’s Rights Activists, the greatest success is in not trying.

I say trolling. You have to notice the details. A real mra would have it uncircumcised.

But SSAE, that’s like the #1 evidence of his oppression. The dissolving ant man is horny so that we can see how oppressed he is.

cloudiah
8 years ago

In hindsight, I should have warned you that that drawing was NSFW. But it’s so badly drawn, that you have to squint at it to figure out what it is.

Definitely a troll account but it is funny, that as Pecunium notes, a r/mr regular manages to be an asshat in the comments.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
8 years ago

“The Mad Scientists Club” and Madeleine L’Engle.

Oh man, I read the crap out of those books! ^^ And Heinlein (insert required it-wasn’t-the-bad-ones-though) and Asimov and all those famous ones. And I also read stuff by L. Ron Hubbard because NO ONE’S PERFECT, OKAY??

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
8 years ago

Ooh, anyone else into Andre Norton’s old stuff? She was my hugest author crush for ages.

Nyxx
Nyxx
8 years ago

Also delurking to express my appreciation of Diogenes the Cynic. He’s my favourite type of internet personality – the kid who’s so much smarter than everyone else in his high school and decides to grace the world with the gift of his oh-so-informed and intelligent opinions. I could read posts like his all day, and they’ll never stop being funny.

Ithiliana
Ithiliana
8 years ago

@Bagelsan: Adore ANdre Norton’s stuff (some of the old out of print stuff that didn’t survive–darn those 95 cent paperbacks-is available for Kindle, yay).

My favorites are the isolated adolescent protagonist who meets up with intelligent alien in somewhat cat form!

Some Gal Not Bored At All
Some Gal Not Bored At All
8 years ago

Apologies if someone did this one already, but the periodic nature of the radians graph is too funny to my math nerd self to not share anyway.

Radians are more popular than men’s rights: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=men's%20rights%2C%20radians%2C%20&cmpt=q

As an objective observer, though (hee), I have to note that degrees have won the Google Trends battle, one of the bloodiest in the Great Radians War.

katz
8 years ago

OK, whoever said the cyclical trend was school has to be right. Look how feminism correlates with radians: Peaks during each semester, small dip for Christmas, large dip for summer. Also, feminism is beating radians! Woo hoo!

The one I don’t understand is the little dip in radians during March. Feminism has no such dip.

pecunium
8 years ago

Could it be be an related to something like papers being due? And fewer people needing to look up radians, while those who were doing papers needed to find sources?

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
8 years ago

Ooh, anyone else into Andre Norton’s old stuff? She was my hugest author crush for ages.

I still reread Catseye and The Beast Master periodically! 🙂 Never read her other work but love those two books.

That Ball (pun intended?) poster really sums up the MRM, doesn’t it – both in the “obsessed with their penises” sense and “what tossers” sense.

pecunium
8 years ago

Feminazi loses to misandry, both fall below radians and feminism; but donuts puts all four to shame.

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=radians%2C%20feminism%2C%20Donuts%2C%20feminazi%2C%20misandry&cmpt=q

pecunium
8 years ago

Oddly, while it’s no surprise that Kimono clobbers Men’s Rights, ai dao paces it, for awhile, and then trends higher.

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=kimono%2C%20men%27s%20rights%2C%20ai%20dao%2C%20%2C%20&cmpt=q

pecunium
8 years ago

Sperm jacking is about as trendy as divorce rape. both lose to Paper Abortion (which is really popular in the Phillipines. Sperm jacking seems to be solely of interest in the US).

Add feminism, and they all crash to the floor, sticking, like glue, to the X-axis.

MKlein
MKlein
8 years ago

In case anyone’s interested, this was something people talked about a couple threads ago, and now it’s apparently a thing.

http://shulamithbond.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d5ntsdk

ostara321
ostara321
8 years ago

One of my favorite philosophers is Adam Smith. He wrote in the Theory of Moral Sentiments that we should try to see the world from the perspective of an objective observer.
If an objective observer were to read this thread, it wouldn’t be me they would assume is the troll.

LOL! Oh this is precious. “I’m not a troll! I’m a PHILOSOPHER! The totally unbiased imaginary people in my totally unbiased brain think YOU’RE the troll!” Come to that opinion objectively, did you, philosopher man?

Also, I hate to break it to you, but cynically speaking, unless that manuscript you’re so brilliantly cracking* can cure cancer, solve all our global warming, pollution and resource limitation issues, bring world peace and give the answer to life, the universe and everything**, all at the same time, there will always be plenty of people queuing up to tell YOU what a smug waste of life, good for nothing jackass you are. There is no shortage of people in this world who think if you aren’t x, y or z, you’re nothing. The trouble is, x, y and z are different to everyone. That’s why people who will go around telling people they’re useless if they aren’t those things are generally assholes. Pro tip: don’t be an asshole.

*I think you mentioned you’re in the process of cracking that. Some advice from a worthless secretary, don’t brag about feats you haven’t yet accomplished. It looks presumptuous and really REALLY bad for you if you wind up falling on your ass with whatever project it is you’re bragging about. And particularly when it’s used as a “what have you done lately” comeback, it just looks more like you’re trying to reassure yourself that your life has relevance, more so than trying to prove anything to anyone.

**I’ll save you the trouble, the answer is 42.

Carleyblue
Carleyblue
8 years ago

And I just did a google search for horse porn. Ugh, why, WHY!?

Creative Writing Student
Creative Writing Student
8 years ago

@Mklien

But truly sexy calligraphy is written on your lover’s back!

(Other than that it was rather sweet, really. Ignoring the reality of the characters involved.)

Diogenes The Cynic
Diogenes The Cynic
8 years ago

@Mklein

Ok, that was weird, but funny.

Creative Writing Student
Creative Writing Student
8 years ago

@Carleyblue

WHY?! I mean, surely every fibre of your being would tell you to not google ‘horse porn’!

gelar
gelar
8 years ago

Titles like this are why I never let anyone else see my computer screen at any time.