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The Men’s Rights Movement: Much Less Popular Than Horse Porn

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When you spend as much time as we do here at Man Boobz scrutinizing the Men’s Rights movement, it’s easy to forget what a fringe phenomenon it is. So here are some charts from Google Trends – charting the frequency of certain search terms from 2004 until today — that help to put it all in perspective. (Thanks to Katz, Cloudiah and Cthulhu’s Intern in the comments for inspiring this post.)

That “rapidly growing” Men’s Rights movement that MRAs like to talk about? It may actually be stagnant or even shrinking, if searches for “men’s rights” are any indication. Despite a recent comeback, they’re still less than half of what they were at their height in 2004.

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Now let’s put that in perspective.

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No, there’s nothing wrong with that graph; it’s just that My Little Pony is so much more popular than Men’s Rights that the latter simply vanishes into the X axis.

But this graph is my favorite:

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Well, nothing will top that, but here’s a graph showing that people are a lot more concerned about misogyny than misandry — and, I would add, for good reason.

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Let’s see what other trends we can find!

(Oh, and sorry about the low quality pics; WordPress won’t let me embed the charts.)

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MKlein
MKlein
8 years ago

So I was curious and I went on Google Trends and then this happened:

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=feminism%2C%20men's%20rights&cmpt=q

Nepenthe
Nepenthe
8 years ago

Back on topic:

I’m pleased that <a href=kittens are whomping horse porn. Otherwise I don’t think I’d be able to deal with the world.

So Diogenes, have you bothered reading any books from the 20th century yet? I’d almost be interested in what you think of the reading list I suggested to you the first time you crapped on one of the threads here. Almost.

MKlein
MKlein
8 years ago

If anyone else did that already, my bad.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

On this or any other question about CynicismFail, I’m going to vote “don’t care”.

On the rise in horse porn, I’d really rather not know.

Diogenes The Cynic
Diogenes The Cynic
8 years ago

I’m burning my way through The Odyssey. I don’t really like it much at this stage, but I’ll be damned if I don’t finish something I start.

cloudiah
8 years ago

Ha ha, DiogenestheInsipid does not seem to understand the mechanics of high-end forgeries. I knew he would bite.

quantumsparkles
quantumsparkles
8 years ago

Hang on… modern science and math use radians all the time. The battle between degrees and radians is a dangerously violent one, though, let me tell you. The Babylonians show up at math conferences all the time with bronze swords to threaten the radian users all the time. The radians/degrees button on your calculator was actually the result of the treaty of Gaugamela signed by Alexander the Great.

*none of this is true. Except for part about how radians haven’t been obliterated from the earth. Wait, when were radians first mentioned? …(wikipedia interlude)…… Oh come on. 1714 dude. (Or similar definitions in 1400s arabic texts) But yeah. After ancient babylon.

Not sure what the point was, there. But whatever. Radians? You get no love, but I got your back.

Diogenes The Cynic
Diogenes The Cynic
8 years ago

Post of the thread. Good job quantum. Its all downhill from here folks.

Ugh
Ugh
8 years ago

If someone has some genuine accomplishments, I can at least see why they would be smug, but when they’ve done nothing, and derided those who have tried more than they, I don’t understand what justification they would have of it.

But if they made a piston today, then they can be insufferable assholes all they want.

Nepenthe
Nepenthe
8 years ago

Radians rule, degrees drool.

The link that I borked was supposed to go here: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=horse%20porn%2C%20kittens&cmpt=q

Diogenes, “The Odyssey” wasn’t written in the 20th century.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
8 years ago

Sure they would, DTC. You have done what every troll does. Tried to make the thread all about you.

whataboutthemoonz
8 years ago

If an objective observer were to read this thread, it wouldn’t be me they would assume is the troll.

Since you’re a philosopher, you would have no problem whatsoever providing evidence for this assertion, right?

(BTW since trolls are people who show up in places where they’re unwelcome just to be jerks to people they don’t know, I’m gonna have to say you’re the troll here. But hey, if you don’t think I’m objective enough, feel free to set some parameters.)

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
8 years ago

I vote college age. Old enough to be hella pretentious but young enough to be damn ignorant.

Shiraz
Shiraz
8 years ago

Something cynic threw out there:
“Well, its one thing to be smug, but its another to act it undeservingly.”

And behold, we have projection at its finest.

CatBeast
CatBeast
8 years ago

@ Diogenes: As a casual observer, I’d say you seem to think that a glut of general historical knowledge and ability to read and access classic literature can replace an understanding of systems, biases and reliability of sources. You touch the surface of something superficially without going in-depth; particularly if it challenges your world-view. You attempt to question the intellect of fellow commentators through cultural and “intellectual” (Classic-lit-Olympics, I-can-dredge-up-more-historical-miscellanea-than-you type crap) posturing. I used to do that sort of shit when I came to the *shocking* realisation that nobody cared that I had read the odyssey or that I knew who Voltaire and Nietzsche were (I used to think they where cool/ cringe) and that I really knew as little as anyone else. To improve on your analytical abilities I’d recommend trying to understand creative writing and film reviewing, it helps to build a more analytical intelligence and an understanding of systems.

Knowing and understanding are two different things.

This is why you are shot down *repeatedly* on this website, and why I have yet to see you prove a point after two months lurking.

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
8 years ago

The greatest concentration of interest in horse porn seems to be Pakistan. A mystery on the scale of the Voynich manuscript, perhaps?

*Quickly googles for a dramatic sound effect clip. Fails*

Bum bum BUM!

Hmm. Not quite the effect I was after…

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
8 years ago

Hah! There we go!

MichaelD
MichaelD
8 years ago

In their defense, the initialism MRA manages to be half as popular as horse porn…. but this post still made my night 😛

WordSpinner
WordSpinner
8 years ago

What the hell is an “objective observer” anyway, especially when it comes to something as socially constructed as internet blog? The closest definition I can come up with to how it is normally used is “person who comes into an internet community and posts inflammatory comments”, which depends on how you define the community and inflammatory, but I’m pretty sure that Diogenes counts–for one, his opponents outnumber him, and are more regular posters, and therefore make up the community whereas he is an interloper who holds (or pretends to hold) views contrary to those of the community.

Nobody is an objective observer, and I frankly do not think it is a useful construct, especially for understanding human society, because given the amount of cultural knowledge and necessary to make any judgements, as well as the necessity for ethical evaluations, anyone competent to decide anything would be no longer objective. Anyway, it is easy to be objective when it isn’t your humanity that is being denied.

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
8 years ago

Misandry vs Devon Rex (one specific and not well known breed of cat):

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=Misandry%2C%20devon%20rex%2C%20&cmpt=q

Devon rex kitties are the best kitties. I/my parents have two.

Amused
8 years ago

Diogenes: You are just NOW reading the Odyssey? What are you, eight?

pecunium
8 years ago

Diogenes the Naïf: You wrote on vellum? Just like dudes did 500 years ago. Wow.

I taught people how to sharpen knives, did a restaurant review, evaluated some roving, did a comparison tasting of three teas, had a long set of conversations on comparative aspects of theologies (RC, Anglo-Catholic, Anglican, Orthodox, and aspects of Judaism), had a conversation about ASL, and did some educating on aspects of the inclusive/non-inclusive use of first person plural phrasing, as well as some discussion of how the less than brilliant aspects of facebooks aggregation algorithm is both useful and distortive of the issues around a child molestation trial.

And, when all is said and done, I don’t feel I did all that much of intellectual merit. Basically I went to work, did some shopping and went to a party.

I’m saying that the universal use of a single system for anything shows us that at sometime a civilization won a cultural war against the rest of the world.

And being a philosopher I am sure you have a reason for this? The one you were giving is, “that makes them superior” but now you seem to be pretending to back off that, while still claiming it’s somehow important.

So you are either spouting an irrelevant truism, or or blabbering to hear yourself talk.

Put up, or shut up.

Oh yeah, and all music is written in 16th century Italian. I found this out after asking an Israeli if the music written in Israel read right-to-left.

Nope: The Catholic church still notates the mass in the notation for gregorian chant.

Kim
Kim
8 years ago

What makes Cameroon so keen on kittens? Is the regional interest based on kitten searches/all searches for that region? Or is it kitten searches in region/all kitten searches? I’m guessing the former since otherwise all region interest maps would be the same as density of people with internet access maps.

Kim
Kim
8 years ago

And of course the ultimte question!

kittens vs puppies

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=kittens%2C%20puppies&cmpt=q

NB: Cameroon also dominates puppy searches

pecunium
8 years ago

Diogenes the Naïf: I didn’t crack it. I’m just in the early stages now.

Gonna finish before, or after, you solve perpetual motion?

katz
8 years ago

Catbeast laid the smackdown.

And, um, yeah, The Odyssey may not be the best choice to make yourself look smart; I’m sure I’m not the only adventure-story-loving child who read it in late elementary or middle school.

pecunium
8 years ago

I read stories from it when I was 9-10. I also read Verne (didn’t understand the subtext in 20,000 league for anything, but journey to the center of the earth was great). I was eight when I read “A study in scarlett” and “The sigh of the four”. Both of which were a bit beyond me. The entire mormon interlude was surreal (esp. as I was on a cross country trip through the southwest at the time) and I thought Holmes had killed the narrator.

But hey, i was eight; and while I was smart, I had no context. I, at least, managed to fix the lack of context.

Diogenes The Cynic
Diogenes The Cynic
8 years ago

Were you a fan of H.G. Wells too? Thats a common combo.

CatBeast
CatBeast
8 years ago

@ Katz: I did? Hurrah! 8D

Lolz, I read the odyssey after I finished LOTR and the Silmarillion in between “procuring” copies of the history of middle-earth; When I was eleven. I was a strange tyke and liked it save it’s one defining floor… No elves! the horror! I’m glad that I’m not the only one who read classic lit during childhood.

pecunium
8 years ago

Diogenes: What have you accomplished?

katz
8 years ago

Who thinks Diogenes actually cares about literature and who thinks he’s desperately trying to change the subject since he’s failing so badly at making himself look smart?

pecunium
8 years ago

katz: That looks like a sucker’s bet.

deniseeliza
deniseeliza
8 years ago

Man, the “radians vs degrees” thing is just a perfect example of an utterly shallow understanding of a random factoid this Diogenes guy picked up on the interwebs to try to make himself look smart.

Radians and degrees are not in competition and never were. Degrees did not defeat radians in some sort of cultural showdown. They serve different purposes, and yes, radians are still in use. Radians are used to the near-total exclusion of degrees in mathematics and physics. The reason is that radians were specifically invented to make math involving circles (and hence, pi) more elegant. Degrees are more intuitive and nobody ever tried to argue differently; but radians are more useful when doing geometry.

katz
8 years ago

I too liked Journey to the Center of the Earth (and From the Earth to the Moon) better than 20,000 Leagues as a kid; I should probably reread the latter now that I’m older.

Wells is more fun for kids, I think, since both the “science” and the themes are easier to understand. Better characterization, too. Verne is totally the Asimov of the 19th century.

pecunium
8 years ago

Wells also has some serious social issues, but they are more obvious. I was 10, or so, when I read The Time Machine, and while I didn’t get the specific metaphors of the Eloi story, I did get that there was more going on then I’d gotten in 20,000 leagues.

I was also a little older so…

I still found things like Roy Chapman Andrews more interesting, as well as, “The Mad Scientists Club” and Madeleine L’Engle.

Frank James Spencer
8 years ago

Feminist protest 2012 VS redneck protest 1962

http://youtu.be/cA_AfWmnxzg

Frank James Spencer
8 years ago

Damn, I better go on a poster run, on my horse!

http://youtu.be/uuS0DcJiIMY

katz
8 years ago

I think we have a new contender for worst troll ever.

Frank James Spencer
8 years ago

AvFM freeway banner coming up soon I will keep you all informed. 🙂

CatBeast
CatBeast
8 years ago

@Frank: Wait? We’re supposed to care? Those posters are very bland… I hope the banner is improved, but considering the MRM’s tragic history with graphic design I’m not optimistic.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
8 years ago

Oh yes, MRM activism at its finest … posters that would at best get a “yeah, and?” response.

Multiple postings of feeble video. Is there a prize for most stupid, unoriginal troll?

Noadi
8 years ago

I thought XKCD already solved the Voynich Manuscript http://xkcd.com/593/

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
8 years ago

LOL Noadi!

I reckon it was some early Fantasye Fictione Wrytere’s notes for their upcoming bestseller epic.

If only it was a hundred years later we could say it was Leonardo pulling people’s legs again.

tooimpurenangel
8 years ago

Butts are apparently more popular than horse porn. And apparently Emilie Autumn is more popular than Brian Molko. And all of these are more popular than men’s rights.

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=men%27s%20rights%2C%20horse%20porn%2C%20emilie%20autumn%2C%20brian%20molko%2C%20butts&cmpt=q

Sylocat
Sylocat
8 years ago

Let’s see, Minecraft is more popular than the MRM, although that’s kind of an unfair competition given that Minecraft is more popular on the internet than… something that is really popular on the internet.

Spec Ops: The Line (which is an awesome game, by the way) was already more popular than the MRM two years before its release.

Charles Dickens’s novel Our Mutual Friend (a 150-year-old book that hardly anyone outside of classic-lit majors (and certain theater companies) have read) has broke even a few times, but overall is reliably superior.

Speaking of Dickens, even a misspelling of one of his more famous books is almost as popular as the MRM (let alone the real thing).

Hmm, it’s interesting what neurological disorders are more popular (then I added Tourette’s and it flattened the rest).

And I just noticed I should have been in bed five hours ago.