When confronted with the simple fact that men hold the overwhelming majority of positions of power in the world – in government, business, culture, and pretty much everything else – MRAs like to pretend that the actual gender of those in power makes no difference because, well, the men in power are probably a bunch of manginas doing the dirty work of the women who really run the world. Or something like that.
Indeed, some MRAs have even managed to convince themselves that the very basic historical and sociological fact that men in power, by and large, tend to represent men’s interests more than women’s interests is some sort of locical fallacy – something that they’ve labeled “The Frontman Fallacy.”
Now A Voice for Men contributor and YouTube videoblogger TyphonBlue has done these guys one better in terms of sheer antifeminist loopiness. In the comments on one of the Warren Farrell protest videos I recently wrote about, she argues that men in power don’t really push male interests because … they probably don’t even think of themselves as men.
Here she is, writing under her other nom-de-net Genderratic:
I don’t even know what to say to this. I mean, WHAT?!
PROTIP: You’re not going to convince anyone you’re a great ally of trans* people if you refer to them as “it.”
You really need to format your sentences a little differently, it’s rather hard to read.
@valeriekeefe
PROTIP: this is a post from 2012, two years ago. More recent posts don’t have the asterisk, like you can see here:
https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/11/23/gamergate-plays-good-cop-viciously-transphobic-cop/
So maybe try knowing what you’re talking about next time.
Do you need the asterix when the men are actually reptilians?
Oh, okay, so can you link me to the post where he apologizes and notes the change or are we just political props that don’t need to be dialogued with?
@valeriekeefe
I don’t think he made a post about the change, it was brought up in the comments that the asterisk was wrong and he stopped using it. I have no idea in which post exactly that happened.
Also, if you want a dialogue, maybe try actually starting one instead of posting passive-agressive comments on a two-year old post.
Are you using the royal ‘we’ in that comment?
@Myoo
Can you also link me to the post he did about how this blog is now the Valerie show rather than being about mocking misogyny? I must have missed that one.
There’s a whole internet to drama llama in. Go find it.
oh, oh, I wanna play.
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Can you link me to a post (on the internet, that is) where you indicate that you are in fact multiple people, more so that than yourself, and that your prefered statements speak for the vast legions that are you? Alternatively, I will also accept as per Kim’s hypothesis a link to a any article that informs me of your specific royal status and ability to lay claim to the royal we.
Secondarily, I’ll need an apology for your insistence on an apology, because your notation thereof runs counter to the notation of the lack of a asterisk as of the present, thereby implying a casuality-line wherein the present supercedes the past – a fact that you chose not to investigate or notice before making your claim (nor did you submit to our lawyers the neccesary paperwork). Therefore, in triplicilate, I’d like an apology for your insistence on making claims of a neccesary apology for a situation remedied months ago. Then possibly someone will apologize for my insistence on your apology, and you can apologize for having caused the neccesity of an apology apology, leading us naturally to an apology for the apology-apology-apology, and so on, etc, etc.
further, please submit the neccesary paperwork to request the form request form that will allow you to request a dialogue assessor, to assess the possibility of us engaging in a dialogue with you / we / yours. In said form – the first form, not the latter form, or the important form-form – also please notarize us to the precise number of people encapsulated in your statements of political props (and further, what color you would like said props made in, for which you’ll need alternative form request form BX7)
We’re currently out of form BX7. We don’t expect those in for at least three to six weeks.
Wow, Fibinachi! That was mind-boggling in its succinctness. I think you just won the thread! 🙂
Also, it’s refreshing to see a non-manoshperian (manospherical? I don’t want to get my terminology wrong) necro an ancient thread. I was starting to think that the manoshpere awarded internet cred for drive by trolling of WHTM, as we are so mean and very scary or something.
When MRAs do it it reminds me of kids knocking on the door of a house and then running away. Yes, indeed, you are a very brave troll, yes you are!
Who’s a cute widdle twoll? Did you just knicky nine doors the scary feminazis? Isn’t him the cutest widdle MRA twoll? (that’s what usually goes through my mind on these necro threads)
My inner dialogue is confused on this thread, though, and doesn’t know what dadaesque drivel to spout.
Curses! The lack of BX7-forms means that the automatic paper processing machine that handles the output of political props for Nefarious Deeds(tm) is going to block up and gum up the works, and we were just making headway on the XI-Z-72 pipeline too!
Don’t worry, we can fix this. The temporal causality cascade caused by the necessity of retro-active apologies applied for past standards being held up against the present consideration will allow us to engage in a dialogue with the personel in charge of processing three to six weeks in the future.
For which we’ll need a form request form so we can request a form so we can request dialogue assessor so we can assess the possibility of opening a bilateral temporal conversational bridge that allows us to influence the present by conversing with the past of the future, for which we’ll need political props for the live-dialogue re-enactment part, for which we’ll need BX7….
CURSES
Wait no! If we wait three to six weeks get the BX7 prop forms fill those out get the dialogue request forms get the form request forms we can request the dialogue form request and use that to ingress retroctactively into the past and have our conversation with the presents past that is the pasts future that is our current presents future’s actual past which will allow us to get the forms in time for the forms to be gotten so we can request the request of the form request.
flawless victory
Now if only we could somehow get some more apology forms, because we’ll need to apologize for our barbaric invasions of the space-time continuum in service to bureaucratic ideals and paperwork oversight committees.
I like how valeriekeefe just makes references to “his agenda” like we’re all supposed to agree without even saying which agenda it is.
The sentence structure is also really confusing and I don’t know if they’re supposed to be a trans woman or an ally. In the latter case, I’m sure you all can appreciate the irony of someone who’s not a trans person presuming to speak for them while complaining that someone else is talking over them.
OMG! Fibi, you are the adorable one!
My personal model, btw, involves three legs always bad, because seriously, what in nature has three legs? Half a spider? A dog that’s suffered an unfortunate accident?
Legs in multiples of two good, fins also fine, but three legs a concern.
Also, the answer is 42.
@ Fibinachi – Ah, I owe you an apology, now. See, I’m booked as the processing officer of the day for form BX7 three to six weeks from now! It’s all my fault (or will be, very shortly) because I. Suck. At. Paperwork.
You can expect more BX7 forms two weeks ago, but only after someone else gets a turn at being processing officer of the day (in six to eight weeks, unless I get the flu).
Always 42 (at least, that’s what the mouse said).
This is too close to my workplace for comfort on a Sunday night.
Three legs is what the stool had upon which the Oracle at Delphi perched, as she uttered messages from the God Apollo, sent to her in the sacred fumes… Doesn’t sound very natural at all, actually.
You know, I’ve read here and there over the years that the tripod is the most stable form, but in my experience, it’s shit. I say this as a person who has been victim to countless secretarial task chairs: 5 legs. Five legs is the most stable.
Also, I don’t have clearance to discuss operation Nefarious Deeds(tm) yet, so I’m very disappointed in you for discussing it in front of me!
Aliens, that’s who.