When confronted with the simple fact that men hold the overwhelming majority of positions of power in the world – in government, business, culture, and pretty much everything else – MRAs like to pretend that the actual gender of those in power makes no difference because, well, the men in power are probably a bunch of manginas doing the dirty work of the women who really run the world. Or something like that.
Indeed, some MRAs have even managed to convince themselves that the very basic historical and sociological fact that men in power, by and large, tend to represent men’s interests more than women’s interests is some sort of locical fallacy – something that they’ve labeled “The Frontman Fallacy.”
Now A Voice for Men contributor and YouTube videoblogger TyphonBlue has done these guys one better in terms of sheer antifeminist loopiness. In the comments on one of the Warren Farrell protest videos I recently wrote about, she argues that men in power don’t really push male interests because … they probably don’t even think of themselves as men.
Here she is, writing under her other nom-de-net Genderratic:
I don’t even know what to say to this. I mean, WHAT?!
PROTIP: You’re not going to convince anyone you’re a great ally of trans* people if you refer to them as “it.”
Yep, Ferguson is all kinds of messed up. 🙁
Remember the troll who was all ‘the police are here to help you’? Wonder if he’s changed his tune?
I think the whole thing was intentional. I did not realize at the time that she writes an online gossip column. At one point she came right out and said she would be using the conversation in her writings. Suddenly it all made sense. She is going to write a hit piece on David, but the asterisk kerfluffle is, after all, two years old, so now she has been banned. Mission accomplished.
Ooh, was it before this whole mess went down, or after?
Yet another way in which she was indistinguishable from our other MRA trolls.
As for Darren Wilson…
With a side of “we have to take all these precautions because The Blacks are going to get violent”. There was a good editorial in the Boston Globe about this.
I want a “Bastard People” t-shirt.
@grumpyoldnurse: Probably not. Probably eager for “those savages to show their true colors” or some such shit. Ugh. -_-
Wierd. It’s like a restaurant reviewer going into some fancy place and pitching a fit and flipping tables so that they could write a review about how rude the staff is and you shouldn’t eat there, even though I never tried the food because it just isn’t up to my standards.
And the portions were so small.
It’s really sad that this Clarence Darrow quote from 1902 is just as true today.
@ WWTH – human nature is immutable.
And yeah, this is exactly why my response to “well just go to the police” was “LOL”. The cops are very selective about who they help and who they harm.
My pleasure, grumpyoldnurse! Kitty fails are a good antidote for craptastic stuff, I find.
Just gonna leave this story here.
A ways back I was walking home with a samurai sword I got as a gift from my then-girlfriend. It was late at night, nobody was around, and I was an idiot, so I unsheathed it and started swinging it around. Apparently someone in a car driving by called the police, because soon a cop pulled over in front of me and told me to put the weapon down (I had stopped swinging it by then).
I did. He didn’t tell me to get on the ground or anything, he came over and picked it up, we chatted for a bit, I explain that I was just on my way home. He called me an idiot, sure, but I managed to convince him that he didn’t need to take the sword to the station if he drove me the rest of the way home. I got back home, alive and pretty much unharassed.
I’m 6’8″, but I’m white. I doubt things would have been nearly as smooth if I were black.
The guy I watched deliver the courts non-indictment kept saying everyone needs to work together to make sure this sort of thing doesn’t happen again. He repeated it something like two or three times. I’m sitting here wondering what black folks are supposed to do, exactly, to prevent another innocent kid from being shot, and why they should need to do anything at all.
A dumbass like me can do pretty much whatever the fuck he wants with a literal sword, and apparently that doesn’t scare a cop enough to use lethal force, but a black dude with stolen cigarellos does.
https://twitter.com/adultswim/status/537075326070042625
Dammit, right in my feels. 🙁
Clarence Darrow nailed it, as so often.
VK is a troll’s troll: she seems to be on the rampage at the moment, because I’ve seen her attacking radical feminists on their blogs as well.
BreakfastMan, got me in my feels too. Them and so many, many other kids. Fuck racism.
A 12-year-old, recently.
There is nothing that black kids can do to stop cops from shooting them. Are they supposed to develop bulletproof bodies, or Wolverine-like healing abilities? Ffs, people.
@kittehserf: Yeah, makes me incredibly sad that stuff like this:
https://twitter.com/PeterPerfect09/status/537068539060826112
seems so sadly true. The world really sucks some times. 🙁
@ cassandrakitty – they’re supposed to stop being black, first and foremost.
I hope racism and child rape apologists step on all the Lego.
Gods yes, that sign. 🙁
That twelve-year-old being murdered was on the news here last night. The police were even TOLD it was likely a toy gun he had, but no, shoot him down anyway …
“Cisfeminists have long since forfeited their moral authority to claim pronoun respect.”
I know she’s been banned, but I literally facepalmed at that.
Did we know that we are required to earn moral authority before we count as people and get to be treated like people who shouldn’t be deliberately misgendered because we’re people?
Because now we know!
Also, has she considered how easily that could backfire? If that was to become the standard, that we only use the pronoun someone prefers if we deem them morally worthy, does she not see how that could be used against her, and other trans women? Someone clearly did not think this through very well.
The thing about these cases is that cops *generally* don’t just shoot someone completely out of the blue these days. There’s always going to be some detail of the situation they can point to for why they think they were justified.
On the blurred scale between completely justified and completely unjustified, there is a line past which it is ok to use deadly force. Racism in the police force these days isn’t about killing without reason, it’s about sliding that boundry line one direction for black folks and the other direction for white folks. The result is lots of dead black folks where every case can be argued to be justified just so long as you focus on certain details and ignore others.
Guess what happened to the open-carry assholes who brought giant rifles into stores and resteraunts? No police action. Guess what happened to Cliven Bundy when he and his gang of thugs got together and took over an area in Texas, shooting at officers? Feds backed down.
Guess what happened to the black kid holding a toy gun in a toy store? Shot dead.
There was even, and I forget the exact details, a dude who had a gun and aimed it at officers, but they didn’t kill him and he ended up getting apprehended.
People can argue til the cows come home about whether Wilson was justified in this particular scenario, come to a conclusion that he was, and argue that it wasn’t racism but the evidence. Welp, guess what. Racism is what guides your analysis of the evidence. The proof is in the big picture.
The guy who presented the non-indictment assured reporters that the jury did the best they could, and made the best assessment of the evidence, and that it would be tremendously unfair to accuse them of bias. Citation fucking needed.
QFFT!
Also, racism isn’t one isolated incident, it’s a pattern (you implied this, but I had to state in explicitly, or else the QFT is just me spamming the thread)
The prosecutor Robert McCulloch has several family members who work for the police, is cop father was killed by a black man, and he has a history of not getting indictments in police shootings even though he is very good at getting indictments for every other type of crime. He declined to let a special prosecutor take the case when questions about his bias came up. It was a foregone conclusion that there would be no indictment.