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FeMRA TyphonBlue: What if the men who seem to run the world … AREN’T REALLY MEN?

How women rule the world.
Women ruling the world?

When confronted with the simple fact that men hold the overwhelming majority of positions of power in the world – in government, business, culture, and pretty much everything else – MRAs like to pretend that the actual gender of those in power makes no difference because, well, the men in power are probably a bunch of manginas doing the dirty work of the women who really run the world. Or something like that.

Indeed, some MRAs have even managed to convince themselves that the very basic historical and sociological fact that men in power, by and large, tend to represent men’s interests more than women’s interests is some sort of locical fallacy – something that they’ve labeled  “The Frontman Fallacy.”

Now A Voice for Men contributor and YouTube videoblogger TyphonBlue has done these guys one better in terms of sheer antifeminist loopiness. In the comments on one of the Warren Farrell protest videos I recently wrote about, she argues that men in power don’t really push male interests because … they probably don’t even think of themselves as men.

Here she is, writing under her other nom-de-net Genderratic:

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I don’t even know what to say to this. I mean, WHAT?!

PROTIP: You’re not going to convince anyone you’re a great ally of trans* people if you refer to them as “it.”

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thebewilderness
thebewilderness
10 years ago

Yanno, maybe they are drunk.

valeriekeefe
10 years ago
Reply to  cassandrakitty

@cassandrakitty

34 years after “Technology on the Social and Ethical Aspects
of Transsexual Surgery” and nothing happening? Not really, no.

http://www.transadvocate.com/50000-deaths_n_8926.htm

This was your own back yard. This wasn’t just Raymond and Rich, this was Morgan, and Steinem, and every condescending column using the phrase “male-bodied” to refer to women for generations.

You. Owe. And what drives this garbage and mockery and snorting at the idea there might be more trans women out there is that you… Do… Know… because your friends held back transition prevalence twenty years and you never really said a word.

No acknowledgements.
No apologies.
No picket lines.
No citizens arrests with referrals to the Hague, like you would normally do with an act of genocide…

Nothing.

From the people who claim to be allies.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

You. Owe.

No one OWES you shit.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

34 years ago I was 7 and not a feminist on account of didn’t know what one was yet?

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

I was 9 and falling down on the job apparently.

emilygoddess - MOD
10 years ago

Why blame men for setting up the system in the first place, when you can just blame women for not fighting it hard enough?

Fibinachi
10 years ago

I love Leslie Fish. She did great stuff with Mercedes Lackey.

I love Mercedes Lackey. She did some great stuff with Leslie Fish.
Also Heather Dale and Heather Alexander. Oh, appropo and on topic, it turns out Heather Alexander is Alexander James now. It has no relevance to the topic at hand.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
10 years ago

Maybe drunk. Maybe high on umbrage. Maybe authoritarian asshat.
I paid my dues in blood sweat and tears and do not owe you shit. I will pick my battles. You will not.

brooked
10 years ago

I can’t believe I missed Fibinachi astonishingly awesome responses to Huffpost’s favorite MRA blowhard. I also can’t believe Keefe found time to post on this humble blog, considering how busy she keeps herself heckling teens on tumbler and railing how women are the real domestic abusers.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

And something something Heather Graham? You lost me, I’m afraid, only name on that list I know is Mercedes Lackey.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
10 years ago

I did not know this troll was famous. Well, internet famous.

Puddleglum
10 years ago

Given the topic at hand, it seemed more interesting.

Let’s see 34 years ago, I was also seven, and mostly wondering if I’d get to watch Gilligan’s Island after school.

Kim
Kim
10 years ago

It’s funny how feminists don’t want to ally with misogynists, isn’t it? Downright weird.

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
10 years ago

I was 13, and I kinda-sorta knew what a feminist was. I don’t know if I knew what a transsexual was.

To summarize:

1. Troll shows up on a two-year-old threat demanding apologies that a blogger, two years ago, used a typographical convention that was acceptable at the time.
2. Troll indulges in abstract poetry that, while incomprehensible, clearly indicates that she feels wronged by the commentariat.
3. Commentariat eventually, possibly, figures out what the troll is frothing about.
4. Troll demands that All Feminists must drop our own concerns to prioritize hers.

Yeah, no. I guess it’s refreshing that this unoriginal and boring demand didn’t come from an MRA, for a change?

Puddleglum
10 years ago

@cassandrakitty, you never dreamt of owning one of the Valdemar music cassettes/CDs?

I was a bit of a fan, lol.

grumpyoldnurse
grumpyoldnurse
10 years ago

34 years ago I was a young teen in an extremely religiously strict household. If some one had told my parents that zie was either a feminist or a transwoman, my parents likely would have arranged an exorcism (exorcisms were traditionally held after the weekly book burning).

I’ve learned a bit since then, though, and agree that feminists need to do a better job of including transpeople in our communities. What I don’t understand is how necroing a dead thread and screaming at the regulars and OP supports that goal.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

34 years ago the thing that was most important to me was The Empire Strikes Back. I had curtains and bedsheets and a toy lightsabre and everything.

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
10 years ago

Oh. She’s an MRA after all? Never mind then.

grumpyoldnurse
grumpyoldnurse
10 years ago

Ah, more thread has been revealed while I typed. I now have more understanding.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

I guess it’s refreshing that this unoriginal and boring demand didn’t come from an MRA, for a change?

I’m fucked if I can see a difference. It’s got the same shitty beat and I still can’t dance to it.

valeriekeefe
10 years ago
Reply to  hellkell

@hellkell

“No one OWES you shit.” Save for, yanno, people with unearned privilege over me, yeah… That’s the inconvenient bit, having to erase the effect privilege has, like ceasing to have room for more than the moral equivalent of the people who spell-checked Mein Kampf.

Puddleglum
10 years ago

I’ve never understood the ‘stop prioritizing your own oppression(s) and prioritize mine, dammit’ approach. I mean, I’ve seen people actually bow down and stop doing things to free themselves, but I’ve never understood why.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

I refuse to dance until someone gives me some booze.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Word salad! Order up!

Fibinachi
10 years ago

…. 34 years ago I was -11 years.

Our temporal shenanigans are really getting out of hand! Alternative hypothesis: I am a young scallywag in this gathering.

Heather Dale, One Of Us:

Heather Dale, Hero:

Heather Alexander, Are Ye Working?

Also I’d love to own the valdemar music. But youtube will have to suffice.

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