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On Popes, PUAs, The Pill and the Alpha A-hole Cock Carousel

I'm pretty sure this is nt how birth control actually works.
I’m pretty sure this isn’t how birth control actually works.

You might think that Pickup Artists, dudes obsessed with sexing up the young fertile lasses, would be huge fans of contraceptives – which, after all, are what makes their particular lifestyle possible. But some prominent PUAs are about as enthusiastic about contraception as a Pope.

In the case of the charming fellow who calls himself Heartiste, I mean this literally. In a recent posting, he quotes approvingly from Pope Paul VI’s 1968 Humanae Vitae dissing contraceptives for allegedly demeaning the women that use them. Paul suggested that contraception may cause men to

lose respect for the woman and, no longer caring for her physical and psychological equilibrium, may come to the point of considering her as a mere instrument of selfish enjoyment, and no longer as his respected and beloved companion.

I’m no Pope, but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t work that way.

Heartiste, for his part, embraces and extends this line of reasoning, adding in some of that Alpha-Beta-Schmeta nonsense that manosphereians seem to regard as cutting edge science.

[A]s cheap contraceptives silently and subtly move men toward devaluing women, so too does the technology move women toward devaluing beta males, those bitter losers in the sexual market (note: I did not say marriage market or child market) for whom contraceptives, coupled with female economic self-sufficiency, have rendered them practically superfluous as primetime sexual partners.

The mass-produced condom and the Pill have freed men from feeling obligation for women as much as they have freed women to regularly and blithely pursue what was historically risky sex with caddish alpha males on the make.

The contraceptive is, in practice, a female hypergamy facilitator.

Yep, that’s right: contraceptives are the tickets to the mythical Alpha Asshole Cock Carousel.

But poor Heartiste has impaled himself on the horns of a dilemma. He’s got a good anti-woman rant going, but there’s just one problem with it: he’s devoted his life to becoming one of those Alpha Assholes that contraceptive-using women purportedly cannot resist riding.

It’s funny for me to write this, because contraceptives have, in fact, been very very good to me. I did a back of the envelope calculation and figured that my aggregate sex life would have been truncated by 90% if contraceptives were prohibitively expensive, unreliable and hard to get. A world in which women had to grapple with real, palpable fears of STDs, pregnancy and subsequent abandonment is, not to put too fine a point on it, a really shitty world for womanizers and serial monogamists and uncomplicated lovers of the art of seduction itself. I imagine I’d have to *gasp* start promising marriage or some such claptrap to any woman I wanted to bang, just to loosen her up enough to unhook her bra.

Spoken like a true asshole.

Oh, but don’t worry, Heartiste isn’t going to stop attacking sex-having women as one of the harbingers of “the cultural and technological juggernaut that hastens, if it is not the sole cause of, the death of Western civilization.”

Indeed, Heartiste almost seems to relish the ironies of his position, as it allows him to spew forth some of the silliest purple prose you’re ever going to find outside the pages of bad romance novels (or comments from our friend Steele):

Here I am, standing at the edge of the abyss, pointing into its bowels like a histrionic jester, leading the ignorant and the deluded to peer into the void and imploring them — no, more precisely taunting them — to heed my warning of their desolate future… and still I cavort insouciantly along its lip, secretly relieved that no one will seriously weigh my prophecies.

Well, at least he’s right about that “histrionic jester” bit.

Last I checked, Heartiste’s post had spawned 450 comments. I can’t bring myself to look through them to see what further horrors can be found there.

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hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Steele, you dolt. PUAs are still rank misogynists.

princessbonbon
11 years ago

I had a depressing day so far today. I woke up to a woman screaming and when I was able to see what happened I saw the man hitting her. When the cops finally arrived, the last I saw he was not in custody despite my present sense ‘he is hitting her’ comment to the 911 operator.

🙁

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

I’m sorry princessbonbon, that’s no way for anyone to wake up.

Clenz
Clenz
11 years ago

I haven’t read through the comments yet to see if it’s been mentioned, but there’s actually some evidence that contraception works exactly the opposite way Heartiste says it does. Basically, because the pill makes you (or at least your brain) think you’re pregnant, you become slightly more likely to be attracted to guys who seem more likely to settle down and help with child rearing. Or, in MRA parlance, betas.

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/health/conditions/birth-control-pills-may-make-women-less-attracted-to-studly-males/article4199829/?service=mobile

princessbonbon
11 years ago

It was a bad way to wake up and I am hoping that poor woman manages to leave him (or at least get an order of protection so he has to stay away.)

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
11 years ago

Roissy is no MRA. He espouses MRA views sometimes – and on those occasions, he is worth listening to – but on the whole, he is a PUA, not an MRA; we are distinct entities and the Boobz King’s attempt to conflate the two are clumsily done, rank, and pathetic. MRAs – dyed-in-the-wool MRAs, who do not subscribe to PUA theology – wish women merely to hold themselves accountable, as adults.

Misogyny. I mock it.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Blatant dumbassery. We mock that too!

thenatfantastic
thenatfantastic
11 years ago

Steele, you didn’t answer this yesterday: If MRAs merely want women to be held accountable as adults, why do they constantly make excuses for men’s bad behaviour? Is that not, in fact, misandry?

Steele
Steele
11 years ago

Misogyny. I mock it.

Mr. Fat-Trelle has made it very clear that this is first and foremost an anti-MRA space; therefore, every he writes is filtered through that lens. He can take primary responsibility for the SPLC imbroglio. It is asinine to pretend this is not a blog for the purpose to setting the Movement back.

Steele
Steele
11 years ago

Steele, you didn’t answer this yesterday: If MRAs merely want women to be held accountable as adults, why do they constantly make excuses for men’s bad behaviour? Is that not, in fact, misandry?

The Movement in no sense condones bad male behavior. Indeed, many MRAs have openly condemned Manboobz; Barry Deutsch; Hugo Schwyzer; Michael Kimmel, and sundry.

inurashii
inurashii
11 years ago

Mr. Fat-Trelle has made it very clear that this is first and foremost an anti-MRA space; therefore, every he writes is filtered through that lens.

Okay, where are you going with this

He can take primary responsibility for the SPLC imbroglio.

LOL NOPE

A therefore Q = NOPE

Steele
Steele
11 years ago

Inurashii, you do Futrelle a disservice; his influence has been considerable in discrediting the Movement; it caught the attention of the SPLC, resulting in a very severe setback.

thenatfantastic
thenatfantastic
11 years ago

No Steele, the MRM does excuse and endorse bad male behaviour. From glorifying child abusers (Ball), excusing rapists (every MRA ever, but especially Elam) to going as far as to say that men who abuse prostituted children are the real and true victims (Bloody Stupid Martin), that’s pretty much all you do. There’s a reason you’re known as the abusers’ lobby.

princessbonbon
11 years ago

It is asinine to pretend this is not a blog for the purpose to setting the Movement back

Yeah…I can tell because it says that by not saying it.

Tell me Steele, are you a right winger?

Steele
Steele
11 years ago

Princessbonbon, I am an Objectivist and a Libertarian. I voted for Ron Paul in the general election.

Steele
Steele
11 years ago

Ah, I had forgotten Mr. Paul was a filtered term; this has happened before. Again – Bon, I am an Objectivist and a Libertarian.

princessbonbon
11 years ago

Oh, now I know why you can believe that something is not what it is Steele.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

I am an Objectivist and a Libertarian.

Oh, grow up.

thenatfantastic
thenatfantastic
11 years ago

Does ‘objectivist’ mean ‘Randroid fanboy’? It’s not a term that I’ve heard in the UK.

ithiliana
11 years ago

Rusting Trolle: It is asinine to pretend this is not a blog for the purpose to setting the Movement back.

ANy movement that can be set back by a blog mocking them is not a movement that deserves to suceed.

Man up, DUDEXZ! You have nothing to lose but your chains Brains!

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Natfantastic: yeah, that’s pretty much what it means. It’s great for letting you know that the person using has not mentally advanced past the age of 17 or so.

chibigodzilla
11 years ago

Thank God we have Steele to point out that Heartiste is a PUA, not an MRA! I was confused by David describing him(Heartiste) as a Pickup Artist /sarcasm

I guess that Steele feels the fact that PUAs and MRAs both fall into the the super-category of “misogynist assholes” is somehow “vile misandry”

Steele
Steele
11 years ago

Yes, “Objectivism” is the term Ayn Rand gave to her philosophy, as primarily outlined in “Atlas Shrugged”. Of course, people such as the Boobzers, who don’t understand Rand’s genius (and probably have not even read her works), take delight in mocking her; the anti-Rand sentiment has become a bandwagon of sorts, approved by the Feminist and/or Liberal Bleeding Heart hivemind

In reality, Rand’s philosophy is the best approach, in our time and for our place; it may not be as politically correct as the liberal maroons would like – but it works. It’s wise.

ithiliana
11 years ago

*glares at comment and muses on whether STRIKE html command does not work here or whether I screwed it up*

ANyway: so what is this HUGE setback the MOVEMENT has experienced since the SPLC report.

What OBJECTIVELY has changed for individual movement members (how many arrests??)? Have meetings been cancelled (by anybody EXCEPT the Movement BigWigs)?

Have their blogs suffered cyberattacks?

Have their blogs been shut down by service providers going OH NOEZ HATE?

Have their comment sections been spammed by The Righteous Forces of FEMMEDOMME?

What, pray tell, has happened that can be described as a set back?

Evidence, dipshit, or stfu.

ithiliana
11 years ago

Speaking of Steele’s love for Rand’s philosophy: all the GOING GALT and AGAINST GOVERNMENT blah blah blah.

But she took government benefits.

That is to say, she was exactly as true to her philosophy as the Republicans are to theirs (small government my sweet fanny).