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On Popes, PUAs, The Pill and the Alpha A-hole Cock Carousel

I'm pretty sure this is nt how birth control actually works.
I’m pretty sure this isn’t how birth control actually works.

You might think that Pickup Artists, dudes obsessed with sexing up the young fertile lasses, would be huge fans of contraceptives – which, after all, are what makes their particular lifestyle possible. But some prominent PUAs are about as enthusiastic about contraception as a Pope.

In the case of the charming fellow who calls himself Heartiste, I mean this literally. In a recent posting, he quotes approvingly from Pope Paul VI’s 1968 Humanae Vitae dissing contraceptives for allegedly demeaning the women that use them. Paul suggested that contraception may cause men to

lose respect for the woman and, no longer caring for her physical and psychological equilibrium, may come to the point of considering her as a mere instrument of selfish enjoyment, and no longer as his respected and beloved companion.

I’m no Pope, but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t work that way.

Heartiste, for his part, embraces and extends this line of reasoning, adding in some of that Alpha-Beta-Schmeta nonsense that manosphereians seem to regard as cutting edge science.

[A]s cheap contraceptives silently and subtly move men toward devaluing women, so too does the technology move women toward devaluing beta males, those bitter losers in the sexual market (note: I did not say marriage market or child market) for whom contraceptives, coupled with female economic self-sufficiency, have rendered them practically superfluous as primetime sexual partners.

The mass-produced condom and the Pill have freed men from feeling obligation for women as much as they have freed women to regularly and blithely pursue what was historically risky sex with caddish alpha males on the make.

The contraceptive is, in practice, a female hypergamy facilitator.

Yep, that’s right: contraceptives are the tickets to the mythical Alpha Asshole Cock Carousel.

But poor Heartiste has impaled himself on the horns of a dilemma. He’s got a good anti-woman rant going, but there’s just one problem with it: he’s devoted his life to becoming one of those Alpha Assholes that contraceptive-using women purportedly cannot resist riding.

It’s funny for me to write this, because contraceptives have, in fact, been very very good to me. I did a back of the envelope calculation and figured that my aggregate sex life would have been truncated by 90% if contraceptives were prohibitively expensive, unreliable and hard to get. A world in which women had to grapple with real, palpable fears of STDs, pregnancy and subsequent abandonment is, not to put too fine a point on it, a really shitty world for womanizers and serial monogamists and uncomplicated lovers of the art of seduction itself. I imagine I’d have to *gasp* start promising marriage or some such claptrap to any woman I wanted to bang, just to loosen her up enough to unhook her bra.

Spoken like a true asshole.

Oh, but don’t worry, Heartiste isn’t going to stop attacking sex-having women as one of the harbingers of “the cultural and technological juggernaut that hastens, if it is not the sole cause of, the death of Western civilization.”

Indeed, Heartiste almost seems to relish the ironies of his position, as it allows him to spew forth some of the silliest purple prose you’re ever going to find outside the pages of bad romance novels (or comments from our friend Steele):

Here I am, standing at the edge of the abyss, pointing into its bowels like a histrionic jester, leading the ignorant and the deluded to peer into the void and imploring them — no, more precisely taunting them — to heed my warning of their desolate future… and still I cavort insouciantly along its lip, secretly relieved that no one will seriously weigh my prophecies.

Well, at least he’s right about that “histrionic jester” bit.

Last I checked, Heartiste’s post had spawned 450 comments. I can’t bring myself to look through them to see what further horrors can be found there.

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Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
11 years ago

Hey, it’s not too late to go back to the music discussion!

Well, this is totally selfish but it was kind of nice to see smart people talking about misogyny in music other than hip hop.

KathleenB
KathleenB
11 years ago

Will ‘sorry you’re such a trolling jackass’ be acceptable?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

He can write just fine if he wants to (remember the poster?). He just thinks it’s hilarious to write like this, almost as funny as appropriating MLK to justify a movement that’s anti-civil rights.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Oh, there’s so much misogyny in rock, especially in metal.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

@Quackers, great to see you back here! 🙂

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Steele, you’ll get an apology from me right around the time you learn to take responsibility for the shit you say.

howardbann1ster
howardbann1ster
11 years ago

Yeah, he’s basically getting off on the attention we give to the painful details of his writing.

It’s a little bit like being a celebrated author like that total misandrist John Scalzi…. only with insults instead of awards. No wonder he hates the guy!!!

On the other hand, I didn’t actually think it was possible for his writing to get worse, but he managed.

thenatfantastic
thenatfantastic
11 years ago

Oh my god.

I’ll let you all cool off, and I’ll be willing to accept an apology when I return.

I go away to eat pizza and this happens? I’m fairly sure he HAS to be trolling now. You utter little scumfuck Steele, the only way I would piss on you if you were on fire would be if I’d been drinking kerosene the night before. Go jump in a lake of lego.

KathleenB
KathleenB
11 years ago

I kinda get the feeling that Steele isn’t so much trying to prevent violence as wanking over the violence that he and other men will be able to commit once women reveal ourselves to be a bunch of mass-white-straight-dude-killing psychos.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Obvious troll has been getting more obvious for quite a while. What, the Ella saga didn’t clue everyone in?

It was entertaining for a while, but not any more. See, Steele, a smart troll would have pulled it back a bit, not been quite so obvious.

chibigodzilla
11 years ago

@KathleenB: Pretty much.

inurashii
inurashii
11 years ago

Yeah, I’ve long suspected that Steele was a trolling persona created by an attention-starved person who knew how to be just amusing enough to stick around.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Yeah, I’ve long suspected that Steele was a trolling persona created by an attention-starved person who knew how to be just amusing enough to stick around.

How sad is that?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Which was fine when he was still amusing…

princessbonbon
11 years ago

are you saying this excuses the coming wave of violence against straight white men?

This is why I was saying you had to be a right winger Rumpelsteelskin-they all believe absence of proof is evidence of the conspiracy.

ostara321
ostara321
11 years ago

I kinda get the feeling that Steele isn’t so much trying to prevent violence as wanking over the violence that he and other men will be able to commit once women reveal ourselves to be a bunch of mass-white-straight-dude-killing psychos.

DING DING DING DING DING!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!

This pretty much sums up the MRM in a nutshell – a bunch of shit stirring shitheads who think they want the opportunity to fight for their valor or some other such nonsense over imagined oppressions. They continue to talk about impending violence but it’s really just because they want an excuse to beat and kill women and they want an excuse to post about their fantasies of doing so with the caveat of “oh, but it’ll totally be because those bitches PROVOKED US and not at all out of some over inflated sense of entitlement!”

Even if the Marc Lepine’s and George Sodini’s of the world WEREN’T lauded by a lot of MRA shitheads as revolutionaries and martyrs, a shit ton of your angry dudes who do nothing more than froth and angrily type on the internetz have a shit ton of violent rhetoric in their tomes. You cannot have been a regular reader of this site, that catalogs all of that violent rhetoric, all that, what was it, “getting boners at the idea of fucking people’s shit up” and presume to say, straight faced, that there is not at all a very severe and serious violence problem deeply embedded within that movement, unless of course, you are simply lying to yourself and claiming No True MRA.

Not to mention, you’ve been documented on this site kissing the ass of a man who admits to thinking that 10 year old sex slaves ought to be punished for being forced to have sex with, being left with no other financial choice but to have sex with a man 3 times her age or more. Often repeatedly, for years.

You did not condemn him. You lauded him. If that isn’t violent, I don’t know what the fuck is. More honestly, if that isn’t the mark of a cold-hearted monster, I don’t know what is.

Also, Steele, really, you come in here, perpetually engaging in bad faith, calling everyone and their mother’s brother-in-law’s dog “vyle” and “misandrist” and everything in between and then you have the temerity to whimper when people rightly verbally whomp you with your own poorly hashed logic and half-assed phrasing? I’m not at all in the mood to read through any of your previous whining on this thread, but if you think you’re being relatively “good” (which is debatable, considering your use of “vyle” just up at the top of the page) and can’t understand why oh why the mean meanie m-feminists are hating on you, maybe it’s because we don’t restart on every new thread and you have previously proven yourself to be a colossally pretentious and condescending clod.

KathleenB
KathleenB
11 years ago

ostara321: Um… the ‘you’ in the second, third and fourth paragraphs is Steele, yes?

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Adding to the votes to ban Steele. He’s way over the line now.

McKenzie
McKenzie
11 years ago

Steele was fun while he lasted, I think it’s time to get rid of him and then have some replacements.
I suggest this corgi
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-zeCXlFPjk&w=560&h=315%5D

McKenzie
McKenzie
11 years ago

hmm, embedding didn’t want to work :O

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

Kathleen – Ostara’s definitely talking to and about Steele. He’s the only one it applies to.

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McKenzie – that corgi gets my vote! 😀

cloudiah
11 years ago

McKenzie, just plunk the regular YouTube link down and it should work:

pillowinhell
11 years ago

Steele was boring as hell, but I’m not seeing any likely prospects for fun new troll.

kiki
kiki
11 years ago

are you saying this excuses the coming wave of violence against straight white men?

Fucksake, Steele. You don’t have to excuse stuff that hasn’t ever happened, you fucking cretin.

But then, acknowledging this would kind of leave your entire ‘movement’ with nothing to talk about, wouldn’t it?

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