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On Popes, PUAs, The Pill and the Alpha A-hole Cock Carousel

I'm pretty sure this is nt how birth control actually works.
I’m pretty sure this isn’t how birth control actually works.

You might think that Pickup Artists, dudes obsessed with sexing up the young fertile lasses, would be huge fans of contraceptives – which, after all, are what makes their particular lifestyle possible. But some prominent PUAs are about as enthusiastic about contraception as a Pope.

In the case of the charming fellow who calls himself Heartiste, I mean this literally. In a recent posting, he quotes approvingly from Pope Paul VI’s 1968 Humanae Vitae dissing contraceptives for allegedly demeaning the women that use them. Paul suggested that contraception may cause men to

lose respect for the woman and, no longer caring for her physical and psychological equilibrium, may come to the point of considering her as a mere instrument of selfish enjoyment, and no longer as his respected and beloved companion.

I’m no Pope, but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t work that way.

Heartiste, for his part, embraces and extends this line of reasoning, adding in some of that Alpha-Beta-Schmeta nonsense that manosphereians seem to regard as cutting edge science.

[A]s cheap contraceptives silently and subtly move men toward devaluing women, so too does the technology move women toward devaluing beta males, those bitter losers in the sexual market (note: I did not say marriage market or child market) for whom contraceptives, coupled with female economic self-sufficiency, have rendered them practically superfluous as primetime sexual partners.

The mass-produced condom and the Pill have freed men from feeling obligation for women as much as they have freed women to regularly and blithely pursue what was historically risky sex with caddish alpha males on the make.

The contraceptive is, in practice, a female hypergamy facilitator.

Yep, that’s right: contraceptives are the tickets to the mythical Alpha Asshole Cock Carousel.

But poor Heartiste has impaled himself on the horns of a dilemma. He’s got a good anti-woman rant going, but there’s just one problem with it: he’s devoted his life to becoming one of those Alpha Assholes that contraceptive-using women purportedly cannot resist riding.

It’s funny for me to write this, because contraceptives have, in fact, been very very good to me. I did a back of the envelope calculation and figured that my aggregate sex life would have been truncated by 90% if contraceptives were prohibitively expensive, unreliable and hard to get. A world in which women had to grapple with real, palpable fears of STDs, pregnancy and subsequent abandonment is, not to put too fine a point on it, a really shitty world for womanizers and serial monogamists and uncomplicated lovers of the art of seduction itself. I imagine I’d have to *gasp* start promising marriage or some such claptrap to any woman I wanted to bang, just to loosen her up enough to unhook her bra.

Spoken like a true asshole.

Oh, but don’t worry, Heartiste isn’t going to stop attacking sex-having women as one of the harbingers of “the cultural and technological juggernaut that hastens, if it is not the sole cause of, the death of Western civilization.”

Indeed, Heartiste almost seems to relish the ironies of his position, as it allows him to spew forth some of the silliest purple prose you’re ever going to find outside the pages of bad romance novels (or comments from our friend Steele):

Here I am, standing at the edge of the abyss, pointing into its bowels like a histrionic jester, leading the ignorant and the deluded to peer into the void and imploring them — no, more precisely taunting them — to heed my warning of their desolate future… and still I cavort insouciantly along its lip, secretly relieved that no one will seriously weigh my prophecies.

Well, at least he’s right about that “histrionic jester” bit.

Last I checked, Heartiste’s post had spawned 450 comments. I can’t bring myself to look through them to see what further horrors can be found there.

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Historophilia
Historophilia
11 years ago

This whole post makes me want to go and sit in a corner facing the wall.

There is so little logic or reasoning it makes my brain hurt.

Seriously, doesn’t he realise that without those terrible destroyers of civilization, condoms, he would by now (if we are to believe his tales of conquest) would be so riddled with disease his penis would probably resemble a canned frankfurter that’s been left behind a radiator for a month?

whataboutthemoonz
11 years ago

I have an issue deciding which my partner is.

He’s a relatively affluent (alpha) nerd (beta) with a lot of sexual experience (alpha) who prefers to be in love before having sex with someone (beta). He’s older than me (alpha) but sometimes more silly (beta). He likes to sex me up but doesn’t want kids (alpha) but that’s because he’s kind of a single dad (beta).

I would like to arbitrarily pick a Greek letter and assign it to him acknowledging his supermegafoxyawesomehot ways. Is there a form I have to fill out?

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

At least Roissy is aware on some level that he is not to be taken seriously. I’ll count that as progress.

Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte)

I do like that he basically admits that his blog is for an audience of men who are bitter because, being deeply repulsive human beings, their only hope of securing a relationship is to trap someone.

cloudiah
11 years ago

The very fact that he thinks there’s a “child market” proves to me that to these dudes, children are property (wanted or unwanted). Just like women.

Runic244
Runic244
11 years ago

The funny thing about Heartste is that he really thinks that he is a good writer. He really, really is not.

Amused
11 years ago

@Historophilia: Well, he once compared his penis to a schnitzel, so I think the train has already left THAT station.

Amused
11 years ago

@Runic244: That’a an understatement. I think Roissy deserves a daily wedgie for the rest of his life for the atrocities he had committed upon the English language.

cloudiah
11 years ago

Oh, I see Judgy Bitch is over there too. Her comment prompted a lovely exchange…

heidihi
heidihi
11 years ago

“Here i am”??? No “Here am I”? Boooooooo. He even sucks at writing badly.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Cloudiah: did you see PaulE scold her yesterday in that JtO piece? She’s spreading joy everywhere.

Melody
11 years ago

Wow…..so, if there was no contraception “beta men” would get more sex. Where is that logic from?

The other day I rejected a guy I went on a date with. Given the things he said about his ex I suspect he probably is on the net whining about what a bitch I was.
He probably thinks I rejected him cause he was too nice and not because he continually made it clear that he didn’t think most women had any value (I of course was the exception). And that women are driven by the urges ect ect. I couldn’t help, but think that if this is how you act on a date no wonder you aren’t getting any.

cloudiah
11 years ago

@hellkell, Nope. So even MRAs don’t like her?

clairedammit
clairedammit
11 years ago

Last I checked, Heartiste’s post had spawned 450 comments. I can’t bring myself to look through them to see what further horrors can be found there.

Is this a challenge? I’m not sure I’m up to it.

Jeff Fecke
Jeff Fecke
11 years ago

I just can’t get over that metaphor. He keeps staring deeply and gesturing at bowels. I mean, they’re necessary for life, I guess, but really?

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

cloudiah: she wanted to slap someone, and Elam told her they’re not down with violence. It was to laugh.

sidhe3141
11 years ago

Melody:

Wow…..so, if there was no contraception “beta men” would get more sex. Where is that logic from?

I think the idea is that Nice Guys can only win if their superior ability to raise children comes into play. I really do not want to try following that line of reasoning further because going that far makes my brain clench.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

D’you think Roissy’s “histrionic jester” is related to the jester’s fool Steely was blathering about a while back? Or has he just got it confused with the idea of making histrionic gestures?

And it’s a bit of a risk for Roissy of all people to introduce the word cad to the conversation. I mean, being a cad would be a step up for him.

Gotta love the Humanae Vitae bit about men treating women as mere instruments of their enjoyment – like that only started with reliable contraceptives.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

html fail …

Melody
11 years ago

If they took contraception away I would never have any form of sex that could result in pregnancy.
I don’t want children. And I know plenty of women who don’t. And I will still fool around (there are ways to do that without getting pregnant) with the “alpha males” (I still don’t understand what that means).
I like partners that respect my choices, know what they are doing and think I am a person. No lack of contraception would result in me picking partners that didn’t fall into my criteria.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

The whole “no contraception” thing stinks worse than rotting fish. What’s so bloody loving and respectful about expecting women to have sex (and of course we’re talking PiV, ‘cos nothing else is allowed) with the constant fear of pregnancy in mind? Even if you want kids, you might not want them or be able to support them right now. And it’s not like pregnancy and childbirth are something you breeze through; they are health- and too often life-threatening. I’d be bloody scared to have the sort of sex that could result in pregnancy, and it’d be a total deal-breaker if my partner was prepared to put me through that sort of anxiety – never mind putting me through the actual process and having a child, an abhorrent prospect – just so he could get his rocks off.

drst
drst
11 years ago

The mass-produced condom and the Pill have freed men from feeling obligation for women

Because before mass-produced condoms (although condoms existed for a long time prior to that) and the Pill (which was predated by several difficult-to-obtain but effective contraception options for women) no man ever failed an obligation to a woman?

Or is he just talking about “feeling” an obligation which of course is a silly beta characteristic that real men just tossed aside, since everyone knew feelings were for girls?

My head hurts.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

It’s such a joke Roissy talking about men feeling obligations to women – he doesn’t even feel obliged to acknowledge we’re human.

And condoms, yeah, not exactly new. Louis XV used to order “English hoods” by the gross because he had a big legitimate family and didn’t want to have a host of illegitimate kids to provide for as well.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
11 years ago

Oh condoms, my boyfriend repeatedly praises them to the skies. Because otherwise our sex life would look very different. :p

katz
11 years ago

D’you think Roissy’s “histrionic jester” is related to the jester’s fool Steely was blathering about a while back?

Anyone who listens to Roissy is the jester’s fool.

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