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Man Boobz Ex-Troll Anthony Zarat Has Some Good News and Some Bad News

Dudes! This pretty lady is falsely accusing you of something-or-other.
Dudes! Watch out! This pretty lady is falsely accusing you of something-or-other.

Feeling nostalgic for any of Man Boobz’ classic trolls? Here’s our old friend Anthony Zarat, now a regular Reddit Men’s Rightser, explaining some things about the ladies of today. Note: In order to understand what he’s saying, you need to know that when MRAs talk about “proxy violence,” they mean women calling the police on a dude, which women of course only do when men are completely innocent, because men are always innocent. (Also, in MRAland all police are men, and White Knights to boot.)

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I like that he complains about women being “narcissistic,” then invents his own definition of “character” that applies to his own little obsession.

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laisa
laisa
7 years ago

I love how it just isn’t possible to make a real accusation of violence…
(Sorry if I messed up with the tags)

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
7 years ago

He’s kind of like a MadLib!

“The vast majority of attractive women are ADJECTIVE. NOUN is a personality trait that results in a very low probability that a woman would VERB.”

This might in fact be the template for all MRA writing ever.

Kate Donovan
Kate Donovan
7 years ago

“Character is a personality trait that results in a very low probability that a *woman* would […]”

Er…so men don’t have character?

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
7 years ago

Oh look, an MRA in action: http://news.yahoo.com/toddlers-death-prompts-review-2-other-deaths-170138383.html

So glad that man was given visitation rights! Women are all lying bitches! Etc!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
7 years ago

So, nothing about sexbots yet?

princessbonbon
princessbonbon
7 years ago

I can attest that courts would be overjoyed if no one filed anything. Means that we could get some work done.

cloudiah
7 years ago

Bagelsan, that story is just… terrible doesn’t seem to cover it.

laisa
laisa
7 years ago

Also, how is beauty linked to making “false” accusations? Just wonderig…

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
7 years ago

There is no correlation between beauty, selfishness and narcissism. As he clearly demonstrates in his post.

aworldanonymous
7 years ago

So let me get this straight, MRAs believe that *all* men should have visitation rights regardless of prior history of violence?

hellkell
hellkell
7 years ago

I wonder if his FOREIGN BRIDE has character?

drst
drst
7 years ago

Was he the one we were worried was going to harm himself? I’m getting my trolls confused.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
7 years ago

That was ringing a bell with me and then suddenly I realized it was a song from 1934.

Carleyblue
Carleyblue
7 years ago

you might find a surprising number of men who are attracted to character…

Are we talking about MRAs here? The same guys who are always going on about how all American or all Western women are fat and ugly? Huh.

Carleyblue
Carleyblue
7 years ago

I did it! I did my first blockquote!

Kim
Kim
7 years ago

Isn’t it odd that these MGTOW are so paranoid about having ‘proxy violence’ used on them, when all the non-MGTOW I know have never had it happen to them. It’s almost like there is a correlation between MRA attitudes and having the police called.

whataboutthemoonz
7 years ago

Er…so men don’t have character?

LOL! You should post that on Reddit*.

I am confused by this concept of proxy violence. The women are committing violence against men by police? Is being arrested considered an act of violence? I don’t understand.

*not really

Cthulhu's Intern
7 years ago

Speaking of which, whatever happened to Antsy?

Jayem Griffin
7 years ago

Women who wouldn’t make a false accusation out of revenge, anger, or greed? Isn’t that most women?

Oh, whoops, sorry. Forgot we were in MRAland. I keep thinking they mean the real world. Silly me.

Johnny Tightlips
Johnny Tightlips
7 years ago

Shorter manosphere: fuck the (feminist run) po-lice.

Melody
7 years ago

@Carleyblue Congrats!

I don’t think I care to have the character he is describing because I think what it means is that if a man hits me I have to remain silent and take it.

Kim
Kim
7 years ago

@whataboutthemoonz
Well, in modern society, violence is reduced is by having it under the control of the state. Murder and violent crime has been reduced significantly by making it illegal for ordinary people to use violence. The state will still kill people (in some countries) or punish them in other ways. So I get what they mean by proxy violence.

The men who don’t like that system – who want to return to a pre-leviathan state of civilization – are the ones who don’t realise that the leviathan protects them too. They always seem to see themselves doling out the violence and never being a victim of it.

Kim
Kim
7 years ago

Is being arrested considered an act of violence?

PS. yes, it is in a way. If you are arrested, you are being held against your will with the threat of force/violence for non-compliance.

palmedfire
7 years ago

@Bagelsan

O.O That story is… Manassas is disturbingly near me.

stonerwithaboner
7 years ago

so, is this violence by proxy?

or does Mr. Futrelle have an acting career? 😉

stonerwithaboner
7 years ago

in all seriousness, though, there are many reasons to be distrustful of the police….

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima

GL’s little piggies went apesh*t mad when I dropped that inconvenient link in on their HBD friendly race discussion…

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
7 years ago

Carleyblue, congrats!

Now you can go to the next level, where you will encounter the Monster of Blockquote Fail. It is waiting for you … mwahahahaha!

Emmy
Emmy
7 years ago

The whole “false” accusation paranoia and the whinging that the police protect women who have been made the victims of violence really piss me off because it absolutely isn’t true; so many of the people I met through victim support groups had horrifying stories about how badly the police treated them when they tried to report what had happened to them, rape kits are often not even tested, and just a few months ago a top ranking official in the British police was found to have deliberately falsified police reports to prevent several rapists from being brought to justice. I have absolutely no patience for anyone who thinks their fear of being accused of a crime trumps the suffering of thousands of people who never get justice after being the victim of a violent crime. I can’t imagine the sense of entitlement that is required to think like these people do.

pecunium
7 years ago

Doesn’t violence by proxy include getting some “white knight” to beat up “The Good Man”, and thus get two men in trouble (the “good one” get beaten, and the White Knight gets arrested) so she can cackle to her girlfriends about the good time she had?

Joanna
7 years ago

I’m actually attracted to people who make false accusations of violence. Totally gets my rocks off. You guys are just weird!

/sarcasm

Naira
Naira
7 years ago

Speaking of which, whatever happened to Antsy?

I saw him trolling on some poor woman’s blog post. She was writing about her frustrations, anger, and insecurities regarding what patriarchal norms demand of her and, unfortunately MRAs got a hold of it and decided to come out en masse.

I guess he’s tired of people who fight back and so decided to post number one in a round of bullying to tell her why her emotions are wrong and she’s unlovable.

jose
jose
7 years ago

Meanwhile in the real world we have real institutionalized violence to worry about.

whataboutthemoonz
7 years ago

Shorter manosphere: fuck the (feminist run) po-lice.

And suddenly it all makes sense.

Doesn’t violence by proxy include getting some “white knight” to beat up “The Good Man”, and thus get two men in trouble (the “good one” get beaten, and the White Knight gets arrested) so she can cackle to her girlfriends about the good time she had?

lauralot89
7 years ago

I read that entire post of Antz’s twice, and I still have no clue what he’s talking about.

Bring back the Mississippi gender divide, Antz! You know you want to.

thebionicmommy
thebionicmommy
7 years ago

Beautiful women are selfish and narcissistic, destroying men with their siren like charms. Women who aren’t conventionally attractive are cruel hags that insult mens’ boners. The only way for women to stop oppressing men with their sexiness and ugliness is to be invisible.

And when abused women speak out about their abuse, they are called false accusers. When the abuser finally kills her, though, then she’s blamed for “picking the wrong guy” or not doing enough to prevent him from being a murderer. I am so disgusted from reading Internet comments about the Kansas City Chiefs linebacker who killed his girlfriend and himself this weekend. There is so much victim blaming in our society.

Nepenthe
Nepenthe
7 years ago

The bad news is: Many MGTOW men[*] avoid all women.

I utterly fail to see how this is bad news. Well, I suppose it’s that only many MGTOW avoid all women instead of all.

*Isn’t this redundant? Shades of “PIN number”?

Anthony Zarat
7 years ago

Hi, bigots! How is life on your crumbling feminist monolith of discrimination and sexism?

Mind if I hold up a mirror, so that you can see your own ghastly and twisted selves?

Just in case any of you have (conveniently) forgotten, the campagin against Dr. Farrell (including the dishonest efforts of your Boob Prophet) relies on (i) intentionally twisted misinterpretation of an interview that Farrell did in 1977 where (ii) Farrell is mis-quoted by Penthouse magazine, an event that (iii) occured when Farrell was a hard-core feminist.

Did the Boob Prophet forget to mention (iii)? Farrell was a hard core FEMINIST (fresh from his tenure on the board of the NOW) when he gave that interview (which is anyways mis-recorded, and which was further twisted by intentional mis-interpretation by your feminist disinformation agents) Basically, what Farrell was saying is: female victims suffer more than male victims, from the same crime. Straight from the feminist playbook!

Of course Farrell’s words from 1977 are confused … he was a feminist, like all of you people. He has grown out of his feminist delirium, and now fights for equality … also known as men’s rights.

RubyHypatia
RubyHypatia
7 years ago

My guess is that the nasty comment about beautiful women is just anger that these women won’t give them the time of day. It’s like their egos can’t accept the rejection and this results in misogyny.

Creative Writing Student
Creative Writing Student
7 years ago

Bring back the Mississippi gender divide, Antz! You know you want to.

I wonder how long it would take to find the first ‘Polly Oliver’?

freitag235
freitag235
7 years ago

Completely OT, but too funny not to share.

It’s really hot here in the Lone Star State (December, yes I know) and a lot of students were wearing shorts today. I saw a long-legged blonde walking out of the library and a wannabe PUA catcalled her “Hey baby, do those legs go all the way up?”

How fucking original.

Blonde was not impressed. She stopped, looked at him and said, and I quote: “No. They stop at the ankles. Idiot.” And walked on.

Brilliant.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
7 years ago

@ freitag

That reminds me of the time where some dude at the farmers market yelled “hey! you with the legs!” at me. In the middle of a crowded farmers market. What, I was the only person there with legs?

Catcallers often aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed.

Sara
Sara
7 years ago

@cassandra says:

I was cat called by some construction workers when I was 7 MONTHS PREGNANT! They were singing “there she was just a walkin down the street…” I looked around thinking this surely must not be for me. I was the only one around. Maybe I didn’t look pregnant from 5 floors up.

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

Antz! He’s gone too? I’m starting to feel sad, all the trolls I knew once were gone… Al, Owly, Antz, haven’t seen anything from Doll Dude in a while.

I feel oddly nostalgic. 🙁

Also, this post is kinda appropriate, because I’m reading an anthology from a publisher I hope to get a shot with, hoping to get a better idea of what stuff they put out. And one of the stories is just… BIZARRE. About a teenage girl trying to entrap a rock star with a fake pregnancy. I’ve never SEEN so much rage and bile depicted towards a teenage girl in fiction before. It was… really discomfitting, no lie. But the whole story was kinda off. (One of the guys was a third Japanese. HOW CAN YOU BE A THIRD JAPANESE?)

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
7 years ago

@ LBT

If you’re a cat? A litter of kittens can have multiple fathers. If they’re talking about people, however, I got nothing.

Also that plot sounds like fanfic written by a 12 year old. Hey, 50 Shades of Grey was published…

Creative Writing Student
Creative Writing Student
7 years ago

(One of the guys was a third Japanese. HOW CAN YOU BE A THIRD JAPANESE?)

*mad science goggles*

What you do is take the nucleus from a Japanese gamete and a non-Japanese gamete, sorta smoosh their genetic code together, then implant that in another gamete (probably an ovum), then fertilise it with a third gamete from a non-Japanese donor. Then you implant in a uterus.

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

RE: CassandraSays

It was written by a mother. Which actually bothered me more; lady, you’ve had kids. You surely can figure how hard it is (A) to have them, and (B) to have them YOUNG. Why are you portraying a child as the bane of all evil?

RE: CWS

And this is why I post on Manboobz. You guys are awesome. Right now, I’m just going with the Gilgamesh excuse. (Only ancient Babylonians had a REASON for not understanding how someone couldn’t be a third deific. What’s the modern day’s excuse?)

sidestinkappleeye
7 years ago

(One of the guys was a third Japanese. HOW CAN YOU BE A THIRD JAPANESE?)

Well if there are 2 others in the room….ba-dum-pum-ching!…

Okay, I admit I perchance had a spot of wine…

Kakanian
Kakanian
7 years ago

>(One of the guys was a third Japanese. HOW CAN YOU BE A THIRD JAPANESE?)

Like citizens of all nations, those of the US have their wierd hangups. The way they count their racial identity in fractions’s is one of their.

inurashii
inurashii
7 years ago

Boob Prophet is the name of my Groove Coverage cover band.

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