So over on MGTOWforums, the regulars are pondering the age-old question – should these committed women-avoiders deal with their continued desire to stick their penises in the women they’re allegedly avoiding by resorting to prostitutes?
In the midst of a lively discussion on the advantages of “going pro” over trying to pick up a “bar hog,” one regular by the nom de internet Xtc sets forth some thoughts that, for a moment at least, seem to transcend the usual MGTOW crudity and bitterness.
“I don’t think it’s really about sex,” he writes. “I think what a lot of people are looking for is love, respect, and intimacy – which you can’t buy.”
Why, that almost seems like an insight!
Alas, in his very next sentence he spoils the moment by returning to the standard MGTOW narrative of female perfidy:
I think what put me off women altogether was the realisation that you’ll NEVER get [love, respect, and intimacy] for real. It’s sad and sobering, but that’s the way it is.
Thinking that the attention of women validates you as a person collapses once you realise they are attracted to the worst qualities in the worst men.
Thinking that the attention of women equals affection, intimacy, or love – collapses once you realise they will leave you in a second if they sense any weakness or if a BBD [bigger better deal] comes along. Then you’ll realise that the meter was running all the time, whether this was clear at the time or not.
Women are like a bitter medicine that you force yourself to swallow because you believe it is doing you good. Once you realise it’s a quack remedy, and the whole thing is a scam, you’re free to spit it out and never partake again.
That leaves you with sex alone, which is really rather easy to come by.
If women really and truly are “attracted to the worst qualities of the worst men,” why aren’t they lining up at these dudes’ front doors?
I would ask the supply teacher to clarify in writing what she meant by rude
Natfantastic: that teacher needs to get over themselves. I can think of several historical incidents and figures that might be clasified as “rude.” This person probably shouldn’t be teaching.
Horrible shot I’ve had in the not-so-distant past: a shot of blue curaco and vodka dropped into a glass of Red Bull known as a Seahawk Touchdown.
Ohhh, BigMomma, you just reminded me of the time we got bored after work around Christmas one year and invented ‘The Glow Stick’. Triple vodka, rum, gin, Smirnoff Ice*, Blue WKD** and orange juice. It was the exact same colour as its namesake. Going both ways.
(*Cloudy white alcopop made with vodka and lemonade)
(**Bright blue, clear alcopop that tastes mainly of sugar and regret)
As for weirdest drinking nights, the winner would have to be the evening I spent on a hotel balcony in Helsinki with a bunch of other classical musicians, some of them moderately famous, getting drunk on a completely bizarre (but DELICIOUS) cocktail we invented (it involved an Estonian black currant liqueur, pear juice, yogurt, crushed ice, plain vodka, some sort of herbaly-fruity-somethingy flavored vodka that none of us could translate the label on to determine what it was actually supposed to taste like, and various other random things we threw into it as the night went on), cheering for and occasionally serenading the construction workers in the lot next door who were detonating tarps covered in stacks of old tires. (I assume they were probably actually demolishing the foundation of the building they were tearing down, and that the tires were there to keep non-rubbery debris from flying out or something like that, but from our perspective, what we could see was tires exploding, and it was pretty awesome.)
and then I would take the written explanation to the principal and recommend they don’t rehire zer (?) and pass on the letter to the Education Board. If zie doesn’t supply a written explanation, I would ask to meet with the principal and the teacher to further explore the issue.
I can feel my blood boiling.
Re: bad alcohol
A very dear friend of mine drank Fire Whiskey with me. It was terrible 🙂
Bob, one of the reasons that breakups often seem to come out of the blue is that the dissatisfied party has been trying their best to smooth over differences in order to try to make it work and sometimes even denying to themselves that there are problems. At some point they may realize that this is not going to work. If they’ve been denying the problems to themselves it can be as much of a shock to them as it is to the people they end up breaking up with.
I’ve been in that situation as the breaker-upper. I came to my realization of the impossiblility of going forward with the relationship over the course of a weekend. The woman in question felt I had wronged her by breaking up without making elaborate efforts to work things out, but it was clear to me that was impossible. She demanded to know why I broke up with her and I was evasive about this, and focused on the ways in which I wasn’t right for her, because telling her the whole truth would have deeply hurt her feelings.
Instead of nursing this grudge — and extending it to all women — you really need to get some therapy to work through it.
Taking down mgtow.com might be a good start towards working through all this. The site is a pretty clear reflection of the misogyny and bitterness that’s festering in you — and which you deny here that you feel.
As long as you maintain a site featuring stuff like this, you’re not ready to date women, or to live a happy life, really:
It’s bizarre to me that you can put up a site featuring stuff like this, yet claim here that you’re not a misogynist.
EDITED TO ADD: OOPS. Bob has nothing to do with MGTOW.com. That was another commenter called The Thinker. My apologies to Bob.
@BigMomma, I agree and so does my mother (TinyFantastic is my sister). She has close family members who are gay, and she’s never batted an eyelid because there’s nothing to bat an eyelid about. I’m furious that someone thought the best thing to do would be to worry my eight year old sister that a person she loves isn’t ‘normal’, instead of raising the ire of homophobic parents. TinyF knows all about Turing’s persecution and why he felt the need to take his life, and I tell you now that upset her a lot more than realising that sometimes people love people of the same gender.
then there was the night I drank a bottle of port with a friend and woke up in the spare bedroom in the pitch black. i tried to find the door in the dark and became increasingly panicked, convinced I was in a room with no door. When I stumbled over the lamp, however, the door was quite clearly there.
I haven’t drunk port since.
French beer is universally bad. The best of it is still foul.
ithiliana: I suspect blockquoting will preserve ASCII art.
Incidentally, if anyone with more knowledge of Eastern European boozes happens to have any idea what that Estonian currant thing could have been, I’d love to know. All I remember was that it was fairly sweet, remarkably fruity-tasting, pretty darn delicious, and a very bright purple-red color. I’ve wished for years that I could remember more about it so that I could find it again someday.
@thenatfantastic, I agree. And the teacher is trying to weasel out of homophobia charges by using a euphemistic ‘rude’, gaaaaah. There are so many levels of wrong to this.
@ Polliwog, Could it have been Liviko Liqueur Black Currant? Picture available here.
Also, yogurt??!!?!? 🙂
@thenatfantastic that is horrifying. I would go down myself and teach her some actual rude words because i have bad self control like that 🙁
Heidhi I would but I live about 250 miles away 🙁
Maaaaaybe? I feel like the bottle we had was a different shape, but given that I’m trying to remember a night in which I was both drunk and about ten years younger than I am now, my memory is maybe not the most reliable thing ever. It definitely looks like a possibility worth investigating, anyway! 🙂
I know, right? It sounds like it ought to be awful, but somehow it totally worked. I would have thought the yogurt would curdle or something, but it didn’t – instead, it ended up being like an alcoholic smoothie.
@thenatfantastic is zhe near brooklyn, ny? you got a jackbooted enforcer of equality on behalf of tiny right here if you need! 🙂
Just to add to the comment thread, last night I downloaded Pharaoh + Cleopatra from Gog.com and tonight I’m going to read all the manuals. It looks like it could be seriously addicting, and if it is I will have to blame David for it since I heard about it here!
Six more comments to crack the thousand! Whoot!
They’re exaggerating, Godwinning, and threatening to doxx up a storm over on AVfM today. Apparently using bad language now qualifies someone for register-her.com.
I couldn’t get through most of that, but I hit this line and started laughing my ass off: “In his early 20′s the violent condemnation from a superficially attractive young woman causes him pain he feels physically.”
I’m pretty sure they just said pretty women aren’t allowed to insult dudes because BONERS.
I really can’t read JtO; he’s as bad as Steele, but much wordier.
No Heidihi, we’re in the UK but if I ever need anyone in that general area shouting at I will go to you 😀
JtO is going to milk that box cutter non-event for all it’s worth, isn’t he?