So over on MGTOWforums, the regulars are pondering the age-old question – should these committed women-avoiders deal with their continued desire to stick their penises in the women they’re allegedly avoiding by resorting to prostitutes?
In the midst of a lively discussion on the advantages of “going pro” over trying to pick up a “bar hog,” one regular by the nom de internet Xtc sets forth some thoughts that, for a moment at least, seem to transcend the usual MGTOW crudity and bitterness.
“I don’t think it’s really about sex,” he writes. “I think what a lot of people are looking for is love, respect, and intimacy – which you can’t buy.”
Why, that almost seems like an insight!
Alas, in his very next sentence he spoils the moment by returning to the standard MGTOW narrative of female perfidy:
I think what put me off women altogether was the realisation that you’ll NEVER get [love, respect, and intimacy] for real. It’s sad and sobering, but that’s the way it is.
Thinking that the attention of women validates you as a person collapses once you realise they are attracted to the worst qualities in the worst men.
Thinking that the attention of women equals affection, intimacy, or love – collapses once you realise they will leave you in a second if they sense any weakness or if a BBD [bigger better deal] comes along. Then you’ll realise that the meter was running all the time, whether this was clear at the time or not.
Women are like a bitter medicine that you force yourself to swallow because you believe it is doing you good. Once you realise it’s a quack remedy, and the whole thing is a scam, you’re free to spit it out and never partake again.
That leaves you with sex alone, which is really rather easy to come by.
If women really and truly are “attracted to the worst qualities of the worst men,” why aren’t they lining up at these dudes’ front doors?
Wait, Cassandra. You mean golab?
Yeah, I can’t see that in an alcoholic drink.
I like adding a couple of drops of rose water to vodka and lemonade. Tastes yummy, smells even better.
@claireammit, so you made it yourself? could you post recipe? i have a vegan pal who is 4hours drive from any decent shops
I think it would make a boozy drink too sweet and cloyingly sticky.
Here you go, BigMomma.
Vegan Irish Cream
3/4 cup sugar
1 cup soy milk powder (I used Better Than Milk)
2 teaspoons cocoa powder
2 teaspoons instant coffee granules (I used decaf)
1 cup boiling water
1 cup coconut milk (shake the can before opening)
1 3/4 cup Irish Whiskey (I used Jameson’s)
In a blender, combine sugar, soy milk powder, cocoa powder and coffee with the boiling water until smooth. Add coconut milk and whiskey and blend.
Makes about a quart.
Rose water in something lemony, maybe, but there’s also a rose syrup that’s thick and sticky and I think that would be gross with booze.
I like the idea of flowers + booze in theory, but I think it works better with fresh flowers. One of the best drinks I’ve ever had was a lavender martini with a sprig of fresh lavender floating on top.
Opinion on Arak?
Eh, it’s fine. Don’t know why you’d want to mix it with beer.
I wonder how jasmine or honeysuckle would taste… they would have a strong enough smell/flavour to hold their own.
Oh, I was thinking arak with golab.
What do they call beer in Arabic? Is it also ab jo?
No idea. I lived in Saudi, not a lot of beer there.
Actually honeysuckle with something clear like vodka, sake, soju etc sounds promising.
Yeah, probably. Although I might kinda like it, since I freely admit that I tend to love stereotypically “girly” cocktails – if it is brightly colored, sweet, fruity, and has an umbrella in it, I generally think it’s awesome.
One of the best cocktails I’ve ever had featured Chambord, ice cream, some sort of passion fruit liqueur, whipped cream, and cherries (among other ingredients which I’ve forgotten). It was the sweetest fucking thing ever. And I LOVED it. :-p
A dry desolate land where there is no beer…….and it isn’t Utah.
In Iran people would just smuggle it in from the USSR. Its why after the revolution the local taste changed to vodka. Or make it themselves. Or blind themselves drinking wood alcohol.
Hmm, I definitely want to taste the booze in my booze, if that makes sense. Also I tend to dislike things that taste very artificial, like most commercial flavored vodkas, but I almost always like vodka (or soju) that’s infused in a non-mass market way.
It’s not like I don’t like fruity drinks though – I’m particularly fond of watermelon/ginger drinks. In general I like things boozier though – my two most recent favorite cocktails were a. vodka/kaffir lime and b. vodka with thai basil.
In Saudi people make a drink called sadiqi (sp?), which is like paint stripper. I’m still emotionally scarred from when my parents stored theirs in an empty Perrier bottle and I reached into the fridge aged about 10 or 11 and took a big gulp, thinking it was water. Oops.
Thanks, clairedammit
I spent a lot of time drinking Arak when I lived in Israel. Never again, kids. Never again.
Well at least there’s one positive! 😛
The rose-water reminds me of when the first Bahrain Formula One GP was held in 2004. They weren’t allowed to have the usual champagne for spraying on the podium, and were provided with a rose-water drink instead. Michael Schumacher won and was asked afterward what it was like – he said “interesting” but that at least they smelled a lot better than after a champagne spray. Apparently sprayed champers stinks to high heaven and is really hard to wash out.
Forgot to add that Moogly is adorablllllllllllllllllllllllllllle
Oh jeez I just read the whole fucking thread.
I have various thoughts but most of the points I would make have already been made and I’m sort of hoping we can all move on now.
Thanks, Cloudiah, Katz, etc for the gifs.
Bob’s new word count contributing to this thread is ~19,700.
I seriously can’t believe you brought this up as evidence that you’re not a troll.
What Nepenthe said, plus a dude, did you really think that wouldn’t make you look creepy as hell? Maybe creepy’s too strong a word. How about makes you look not quite as bright as you claim to be?
Bob: You need to read your own words.
1: Thing is, just speaking to my own unique situation, it was not “so bad.”
You don’t know this. You admit you don’t know this, which is plain from
2: No, I’m not a mind-reader,.
The only way you can reconcile those two statements is if you get to decide what, “too bad” is. In short if (as has been suggested before) you think the woman gives up the right to change her mind the minute she accepts a proposal.
I didn’t say complacent, but secure and comfortable.
Good luck. I think this is the root of all your troubles. You want to be secure, and comfortable, from the start of the relationship, and never need to worry again. It’s why you rail on about the evils of divorce, and how horrid it is for women to be able to leave on their own terms.
If they can’t leave, then you are secure, maybe even comfortable. Until you get over that, you aren’t in any way, shape, or form, ready to try and form a romantic relationship.