So over on MGTOWforums, the regulars are pondering the age-old question – should these committed women-avoiders deal with their continued desire to stick their penises in the women they’re allegedly avoiding by resorting to prostitutes?
In the midst of a lively discussion on the advantages of “going pro” over trying to pick up a “bar hog,” one regular by the nom de internet Xtc sets forth some thoughts that, for a moment at least, seem to transcend the usual MGTOW crudity and bitterness.
“I don’t think it’s really about sex,” he writes. “I think what a lot of people are looking for is love, respect, and intimacy – which you can’t buy.”
Why, that almost seems like an insight!
Alas, in his very next sentence he spoils the moment by returning to the standard MGTOW narrative of female perfidy:
I think what put me off women altogether was the realisation that you’ll NEVER get [love, respect, and intimacy] for real. It’s sad and sobering, but that’s the way it is.
Thinking that the attention of women validates you as a person collapses once you realise they are attracted to the worst qualities in the worst men.
Thinking that the attention of women equals affection, intimacy, or love – collapses once you realise they will leave you in a second if they sense any weakness or if a BBD [bigger better deal] comes along. Then you’ll realise that the meter was running all the time, whether this was clear at the time or not.
Women are like a bitter medicine that you force yourself to swallow because you believe it is doing you good. Once you realise it’s a quack remedy, and the whole thing is a scam, you’re free to spit it out and never partake again.
That leaves you with sex alone, which is really rather easy to come by.
If women really and truly are “attracted to the worst qualities of the worst men,” why aren’t they lining up at these dudes’ front doors?
Am I the only one who took Bob’s “heart of a Lion” bit of hyperbole, added it to the various quotes from fundie preachers, and came up with “so Bob thinks we think he used to be engaged to Aslan”?
Bob:
so take some time off! learn to play the trumpet or join an ultimate frisbee league or re-read the Harry Potter books or perfect your chili recipe. There’s no rush to start dating again if you don’t want to. it’s a big world: there are friends to make and foods to eat and, I don’t know, snow angels to make. you have all the time in the world to heal your heart. but wishing things had worked out differently or wishing you understood your breakup or getting cranky about “the state of relationships in society” aren’t going to help you heal and aren’t going to help you grow as a person.
“so Bob thinks we think he used to be engaged to Aslan”?
oh my goodness THINK OF ALL THE FUNNY JOKES
“Then Hwin, though shaking all over, gave a strange little neigh and trotted across to the Lion.
“Please,” she said, “you’re so beautiful. You may eat me if you like. I’d sooner be eaten by you than fed by anyone else.” (Horse and His Boy)
so sorry! how does one do block quotes?
Bob still wants us to say “oh my gosh you were the best boyfriend ever and that skank is such a skanky ho for doing such a shitty thing. We should go egg her house or something! And this totally proves all women are evil biaches!”
Dude, that is what your meatspace friends would say. Go get some. (They would be wrong but hey, friends generally do not give you the hard truth the day after a traumatic break up. That would be us.)
Hi Kitty Snide!
Blockquotes are the greater and lesser than symbols with blockquote, quote, then /blockquote to close.
We all fuck it up, so don’t sweat it if it doesn’t work.
(blockquote) (/blockquote)
But replace ( with <
OMG engaged to Aslan, that is such a cool image … Lucy might get a bit jealous, though.
Last Wednesday at 5 PM EST. There was a memo-did you miss it?
This is what happens when I forget to check my text messages.
But wimminz are not supposed to have feelings! Unless they are OMGMARRIAGEMARRIAGEMARRIAGE! Unless the guyz don’t want them to want to be married, ‘cos then it’s manipulative and spermjacking!
ooh let me try
Aslan engagement!
ROFLMAO!
you could tell Bob’s whole “saga” with Aslan quotes…
There is the classic abuser, right there. It is her fault that she fell for the nice guy scam that I had going. It is her fault that she stayed on thinking I would eventually stop dismissing her and disregarding her. It is her fault that she gave up when she couldn’t stand another day of it. It came right out of the blue. No warning at all.
If you read back through this thread you will see exactly why people get fed up trying to reason with you. Goodbye Bob.
Welcome aboard, KittySnide! I can tell you’re going to fit right in.
RE: Bob
You missed the most important part of my comment which is: sometimes, you don’t get to know. You don’t get to know whether it was ‘that bad’ or not. You don’t get to know why. Life isn’t a book where everything gets explained at the end. You. Don’t get. To know. That’s a part of life. Dealing with that is on you.
RE: KittySnyde
Yeah. I guess I’ve never understood the concept of closure, since I’ve never actually seen one of those perfect closers in real life where everyone walks away satisfied. To quote the Princess Bride:
“I must know!”
“Get used to disappointment.”
“Okay.”
(Welcome, by the way.)
Also, oh my god, guys. I have never read Narnia, and now I never will be able to without hearing bad seventies porn beats in the background. YOU GUYS ARE SUCH JERKS.
“There is the classic abuser, right there. It is her fault that she fell for the nice guy scam that I had going. It is her fault that she stayed on thinking I would eventually stop dismissing her and disregarding her. It is her fault that she gave up when she couldn’t stand another day of it. It came right out of the blue. No warning at all.”
You’re pathetic and you just don’t get it. You assume I wasn’t genuine with her because…? You actually can’t enumerate that so you just engage in projection. In your world apparently, being kind and sensitive and trying to love someone to the best of your ability equates to lack of sincerity and trying to manipulate somebody with “niceness.” You weren’t there to observe our day to day dynamic but everything I did had an ulterior hidden agenda and wasn’t genuine and sincere. I must not have genuinely loved her but treated her as a sex and companion machine that would spend time with me and sex me up if I inserted enough Nice coins into it. I apparently abused her because I…listened to what she had to say, enjoyed her company and the give and take of two people trying to make a life together. In MRA world, it’s always the woman’s fault. In your world, any guy that got dumped is a classic Nice Guy manipulator that never says or does anything kind unless there’s something in it for him. What did I disregard? What problems and concerns did she bring to my attention that I refused to address and refused to listen to? You just don’t get it.
Seriously Bob, no sarcasm — get therapy.
*faceplam*
You don’t want us judging your relationship? Well gosh, I guess it’s about time you stopped posting about it. We obviously aren’t telling you what you want to hear.
(Turns around and faces all the man boobz regulars)
Does anyone else need a drink?
Gonna have to second (third, fourth, whatever) the therapy recommendation.
Anyone else starting to think that Bob should be banned for his own good? I don’t really want to snark someone who so clearly needs help.
Oh, for the love of fuck, not another therapy troll.
@ Hellkell
Yep. Maybe if he runs out of places to go looking for ways to justify why OBVIOUSLY HE DID NOTHING WRONG IT’S JUST THAT WOMEN ARE EVIL, SEE HOW EVIL THEY’RE BEING TO ME NOW he’ll actually go get some damn therapy.
Yeah, I’m thinking banning would be the best thing. This is just going round in circles.
Bob – GET THERAPY.
If he goes on another thread and tries to turn it into round two of the Bob Pity Party I’m all for banning him.
RE: Bob
Go. Just… GO. You came HERE. Please, get thee to a proper environment to discuss this, which isn’t here, and GO.
Seriously, guys, I think there should be a rule that if you’re trying to therapy a troll for over a page, give up.