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“As men, Force is the greatest weapon we have … We must use it,” says racist manosphere asshat.

More thoughts on the election from the Manosphere. These are from the comments section of Chateau Heartiste, in response to that little manifesto from Mark Minter we talked about the other day, and which Minter also posted at the Chateau.

Here John Salt suggests that “force” works better than voting.  And, oh yeah, he’s also as racist as Hitler.

Here Sidewinder offers some “optimism” for the future:

You’ll notice that no one there voices opposition to any of these sentiments.

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Amanda Ching
12 years ago

Why does everyone have to drag the Force into it? The Jedi Council want no part of this wacky wagon.

meltydali
meltydali
12 years ago

I kind of want to throw every asshole on the internet that talks about “natural law” into an intro level sociology class

inurashii
inurashii
12 years ago

Holy shit, I dunno how I can continue to be surprised by what human garbage the manosphere produces.

inurashii
inurashii
12 years ago

(and yet.)

jose
jose
12 years ago

Is the manosphere mostly right-wing?

clairedammit
clairedammit
12 years ago

But if white men care to do anything as a group to resurrect their good society, they must talk less and be more violent.

I do not think you know what “good society” means if you think violence is the way to uphold it.

There is no “convincing” our women, or niggers, or jews, or mestizos that our will to power is virtuous or even valid.

I am not your woman. Nor am I your nigger, your jew, or your mestizo.

And this was in reply:

We were the masters of the world, until after WW2.

until after 1965
The year white America handed its pussy to whoever wanted to fuck her.

Okay, now I’m not even “your” woman anymore , I am now just pussy? That is owned by America? (I’m sure by America he means white American men.)

These guys really do think they’re the only people who are actually human, don’t they?

clairedammit
clairedammit
12 years ago

Huh, is “pussy” a word that gets your comment in moderation?

clairedammit
clairedammit
12 years ago

Oh, no, I know what it is! I was quoting the post and used the n* word in full because I copied it from the comment. Whoops! Next time I’ll add some stars.

Sivi
Sivi
12 years ago

@Jose

Pretty well by definition, really.

meltydali
meltydali
12 years ago

I think I’ve seen one self described “liberal” MRA. Basically he thought men get screwed in family court therefore women have advantage everywhere, though I don’t think he went along with the whole women are all evil (though he was somewhat sexist)

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
12 years ago

There was a left-wing-esque MRA catalogued here on Manboobz at one point. It was a couple of weeks ago, I believe.

Carleyblue
Carleyblue
12 years ago

If these guys are truly serious about what they believe, sooner or later it would have to come down to the use of physical force, wouldn’t it? Of course, they also know that there would be many people who might stand against them, and they wouldn’t like that very much.

thebionicmommy
thebionicmommy
12 years ago

They are acting as appeasers, incrementally becoming more and more socially and morally relativistic, trying to chase voting blocs that will never vote for them. The republicans are too out of touch and too far gone.

It’s true that the Republicans are out of touch. I’ll give him that, but I would not describe them as appeasers. If he paid attention to how the Republicans in Congress act, he’d know why they are described as the “party of no”. With them, it’s my way or the highway and compromise is for suckers. And we saw how well that approach worked out for them last Tuesday.

John Salt sounds like he’s ready to join some right wing militia group. Those heartiste readers are scary.

cloudiah
cloudiah
12 years ago

Isn’t that Pigman dude some kind of lefty? There’s also someone on r/mr (David Byron? Something like that…) who calls himself a communist, I think.

Shiraz
Shiraz
12 years ago

I’ve looked over definitions of “nationalism” before. I don’t recall anything about “Gaming hot women and keep them in line.”

Bostonian
12 years ago

Once again, the MRM’s own words are worse than anything anyone else could say about them.

Keep digging past the bottom of the barrel, guys!

deodorant
deodorant
12 years ago

Sidewinder’s plot is unrealistic; you can’t “Game” blocs of women. it must be done individually. Is he suggesting Romney “Game” remotely, via commercials? Can’t be done. Sure, he could go door to door and flash his cash and/or penis, but there are something like 125 million adult women in the US. Not enough hours in the day.

cloudiah
cloudiah
12 years ago
freitag235
freitag235
12 years ago

Brain bleach.

opium4themasses
opium4themasses
12 years ago

Not at all scary. Also, I am always amazed at the number of slurs which exist. It’s like hate mongers are curators of hate.

cloudiah
cloudiah
12 years ago

Did someone say brain bleach?

cloudiah
cloudiah
12 years ago

And this is why I needed the brain bleach:

thenatfantastic
thenatfantastic
12 years ago

Pigman and the leftist MRA from a couple of weeks ago, mentioned above, both claim to be anarchists.

Not to go all ‘no true Scotsman’ but pretty much the central tenet of anarchism is a refusal to accept hierarchies as a valid way of running the world. If they think that they should hold rule over women, they’re objectively and demonstrably not anarchists. Like anarcho-capitalists (basically from the School of Rand), who think that authority over another by virtue of having more shiny things is a perfect valid model for society aren’t any kind of anarchists I recognise either.

When talking about MRAs in general, it depends how you define left/right – are you going on economics or authoritarianism? Most MRAs are libertarian (free/laissez-faire market) economically and right-wing authoritarians. Basically the GOP’s point of view – ALL HAIL BUSINESS! SCREW CIVIL LIBERTIES FOR PEOPLE WHO DON’T LOOK LIKE ME! And then it also depends what one defines libertarian economics as. Some would argue it’s left-wing because it leaves people’s money in the hands of those people to do as their Galt selves see fit and damn everyone else, I’d say that’s an inherently right-wing point of view, and so on.

If anyone’s familiar with the political compass test, I’m at the very bottom left, most MRAs would be in the bottom right and the two dudes who claim to be anarchists are probably top left.

Amused
12 years ago

Okay, I get their “theory” on how women supposedly enjoy being put upon. But Jews? Do Jews enjoy white master-race domination? As a Jewish woman, I really need my masters at Roissy’s to tell me which way I ought to lean.

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