Manosphere dudes are having a little trouble dealing with Obama’s re-election – especially with the fact that women and minorities were behind it. On The Rational Male, the regulars are debating the merits of a post-election manifesto from a fellow named Mark Minter, originally posted as a comment on Roosh’s Return of Kings blog.
Minter, who is basically right about the demographic shift behind Obama’s victory but wrong about everything else, lays out what he sees as the evil forces arrayed against the dudes of America – the white ones in particular — and what he sees as a solution. Naturally, in classic manosphere style, he gets a bit melodramatic about it all.
(In the excerpts that follow, I’m snipping out the demographic details, which everyone here already knows about.)
Women are winning. Women are going to win and impose the changes on society that they wish and there is nothing you can do to stop it.
The reason Obama won this election and why the Republicans were not able to gain any ground in the legislature was women. Pure and Simply. This election was about women. And the men lost.
Well, the election was “about women” mainly in that women voters (and plenty of men) voted against Republicans trying their best to make abortion illegal and reproductive services unavailable. Beyond this, women’s issues rarely came up.
Back to Minter, who is starting to build up quite a head of steam:
The forces arrayed against you, socially, economically, and politically are insurmountable. You can scream, whine, blog, comment, whatever, and you will not turn back the march of history. Even if the number of Red Pill aware men increases ten fold in the next few years, it still will not stop the inevitable erosion of the position of men, not only in America, but throughout the rest of the world.
Grab hold of your dicks, dudes; a storm is a-brewing!
Now, I am going to tell you in no uncertain terms, if you have a dick then you are on your own and the forces of the world are arrayed against you. You can expect no political support, no social support, no support in the workplace, no support in the courts, with the police. Whether you realize it or not, women are a bigger enemy to you than any Arab, any Iranian, any Chinese.
Any Chinese what?
Democrats made a lot of hay about the Clint Eastwood presentation during the Republican convention where he used a chair a prop and addressed a hypothetical Barrack Obama in the chair. It was said that was essence of the Republican party, angry, old white men railing in their anger at a black Democratic president. And more and more of are those old, angry, white men going to die and not be replaced in the pipeline. … There will a smaller percentage of white voters in every election cycle from here on out.
The horror!
But the real issue was the gender gap.
The horror!
[M]ore and more women will move into elected office and those women will push issues favorable to women as their primary agenda masking those issues as “for children”, “for education”, “for families”.
The horror!
Also, the story of the next four years will be stagnation on issues involving spending, spending cuts, unless it is a measure that effects women. Then public opinion, the media, and the army of women will coerce the Republican legislature into caving.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
So what’s wrong with women politicians pushing women’s issues? Because women are man-haters, and they’re going to use their new power to do all sorts of man-hatey things:
You all need to understand in no uncertain terms, women despise you, they think little of you. They believe you brutish and violent, bull headed, and fundamentally stupid. The see you as big children that must be controlled and disciplined in order make you useful to them. And if you are not useful to them, if you do not provide those things that they wish from you, actually, more correct to say, those things they need from you, then you will not be a part of their lives.
And they are earnest and driven in structuring society and the law in such a manner that you are no longer needed.
Uh oh. That sounds ominous.
They are now avoiding marriage in droves, deferring pregnancy and motherhood, and using men, more and more, as forms of recreation and, less and less, as a necessary partner in the scheme of life as they are defining it. Their job and their female friends are more important to them than you are. They are celebrating and defining single motherhood as the form of child rearing preferrable to a two parent household.
Wait, I thought that it was men who were avoiding marriage – helping to bring down society with an Atlas Shruggish “marriage strike.” And that men were enjoying every minute of it.
Manosphere dudes, get your story straight!
[Y]ou should expect the bad behavior of women in relationships and in social situations to only get worse.
Oh noes!
There is a massive demographic shift that has been occuring since the end of the birth control. Compare the dearth of child bearing age women against the number of men from 19-55 that chase those women, men that throw deals and enticements at the feet of those women, with the rise in social media mechanisms available today that permit women to be approached and have those deals thrown at their feet, and you have recipe for more trouble ahead for men.
Men flattering women on Facebook and OkCupid in an attempt to get into their pants => women getting all stuck up => oppression of men!
Pity the poor boy born in 2007 when there was a birth rate of 4.32 babies born per 1000 people to the birth rate in 2011 of 1.9. There will be no girls for 50% of those boys, given that men tend to pair with younger women.
Wait, what? Could you show your math here?
So how can men respond to the new realities of our post-modern world?
Start with this statement right here and make it the first declaration in who you are, what you will be, and will do, what you won’t be and what you won’t do, and how you judge and think about the world
“I will be nobody’s fucking slave and nobody’s fool”.
You owe nobody nothing. You owe women nothing. You owe society nothi …
Bored now. Let’s skip ahead to something a tiny bit more creative:
We will stop being men that are useful to women, useful to society and start being men that live life on their terms. You have a power that you give away. We voluntarily let chains be placed on you because we think that is what “The Good Man” does.
Re-evaluate everything.
Revolt.
Uh, I’m pretty sure you’re already revolting.
You cannot change where the world and society is going. But you have the power to change your life so that you live it on your own terms. There will no “macro” solution to the angst that you are feeling. There will be no grand social movement to correct the wrongs that you experience in your dealings with women and in how society views and what it expects from men.
But you have the solution in your hands.
Wait, is this some sort of masturbation reference?
Actually, no:
Game.
Not just “Game” as pick-up lines, but “Game” as a way of viewing women, as a way of viewing life, as a way of reconstructing what is right and what is wrong, as a way of reacting to the changes that are beyond your control, as a way of dealing with the structural and social changes that already have come and inevitably are coming.
Don’t just neg women. Neg the world!
It really is just one of the man, many instances in which women doing anything but catering to others or being unaware of their presence or bodies or good looks is vilified. Come to think of it, I can’t think of a single example of a man being accused of ‘wanting attention.’ even when people rag on, say, Justin Bieber, they insult his music, maybe his haircut. No one accuses him of wanting attention, of spotlight. Because he deserves recognition, to some degree, by default. To be seen AND heard.
Comic Con is manspace (hereafter referred to as MACE). This is the natural order of things. Evolution has set aside certain areas as MACE, and we’re playing God by tampering with the laws of nature. And the women who come to MACE in sexy costumes are exploiting it for their own ego. The fact is, many of the men who hide out in MACE are recovering from a false accusation, or spermjacking, and have come to trust that they won’t have to deal with females. I fully endorse this proposal.
All right, for the clueless Comic Con guys, here’s a multiple choice question.
You are a Star Wars fan, and you are approached by a woman dressed like Princess Leia. You think she’s attractive and would like to date her. Do you say:
A) “Hey, Princess, want to see my lightsaber? I sure would like to lay-ya!”
B) “I hate phony women pretending to be geeks and spoiling all the fun at this place!”
C) “I’m a Star Wars fan, too. Would you like to go grab a bite to eat? We can talk about Disney buying Lucasfilms”.
D) None of the above. Run away in terror from the woman!
The correct answer is C. Treat her like you would any other person that shares a common interest with you. Ta da, it’s that easy.
Bah, are you saying we straight males should deny our own hetero-sexuality? How hypocritical! But that’s just to be expected from feminists after all. Anyway, if female cosplayers don’t want to be bashed by male nerds, they shouldn’t deliberately get the male nerds sexually excited only to just thoroughly reject (and how!) them and get them sexually frustrated. Nerds are serious people and don’t like to have their time sadistically wasted by being sexually teased for nothing. It is most sadistically cruel to raise hopes so high only to drop them so low.
thebionicmommy: The correct answer is “C”.
The “B” will make the dude looks like a stalker… =P
Abnoy: nice poe! Really teeters on the line between “So absurd no one could possibly think this” and “Actually some creeps talk this way.”
“We will stop being men that are useful to women, useful to society”
Um, I’m pretty sure that’s already happened – at least in the case of Heartiste…
Obama’s election–assuming that it was at all honestly counted and conducted–is not the first step toward making American men into inert, neutered, passive, and tacitly feminist drones. It is one of the final steps! Over the past century or longer, every masculine ability and superiority (with the possible exception of war making, which tells you something in itself, doesn’t it?) has been denigrated, ignored, and misrepresented to the disadvantage of men (especially the world’s most creative and energetic men and their geographic regions) and every effort has been made by globalist criminal elites to displace, dispossess and disenfranchise us in favor of de-gendered, feminist, pseudomasculine “women”, most of whom voted for the winner(?) anyhow. This has been, and is, evident, EVERYWHERE, in the sciences, business, the civil service, the armed forces and law enforcement (whatever is left of them, anyhow),the judiciary, trade unions, and news and information media.
Obama’s election is a symptom, and a rather superficial one at that. What would have been different if the other one had been “elected’? Only that more men would have been killed or maimed in wars that would have been started even sooner, and committed to more recklessly, and the decline of Western Man would have been accelerated still more.
Oh well, the NWO does seem to be bankrupting itself at a record pace, and something better will have to come out of this bloody mess. I only hope that enough men (and the women who love us) survive to make a credible new start.
David, In the world I see – you’re stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center.
You have a distorted vision of what matriarchy is.
Feminism is not matriarchy feminism is toxic to matriarchy. As a misogyne movement feminism define motherhood and all female greatness as oppression and slavery. Tehy are at war against nature… quite stupid. In the same time they overvalue male wporld of providing and protecting women and child.
Matriarchy simply mean that the head and center of the reproductive unit (called clan) is the mother. Since all the required laws, social pressure and religious laws have been destroyed by feminism the cultural concept we call fatherhood do longer really exist, just ‘fauxfini’ (a paint looking like) of fatherhood of it, so we are back to mamalian default: Matriarchy. But our matryarchy is defective intoxicated by feminism poison. Matryarchy is not a system of male oppression, unlike patryarchy matriarchy do not require any law or social repression to exist motherhood come free with a working uterus. Femisnism is about death and hate, matriarchy is about life and maternal love.
Femisnism is a female supremacist hate mouvement.
Sorry to necro this but is was weird seeing that book. My mate’s dad wrote it. It was later re-released, with some modifications, as “Alph” (for Alpha Male!)